Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 May 30

ST6 → Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
The result of the debate was has been converted to a dab page, so further discussion is moot.  AK Radecki Speaketh  17:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC) This redirect was created as part of some product spam by Stmicro, and should be removed. --FeralDruid 07:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Keep-the microcontroler link should go away, but ST6 is a plausible enough search term for Star Trek VI, I think.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Disagreeing with Fyre2387, the redirect did not exist until the user created it purposes of advertising a microcontroller.  That this redirect didn't exist until just recently suggests ST6 is not a commonly used search term for Star Trek VI.  Further, there aren't ST1-ST11 redirects for any of the other Star Trek films.  ST3 directs users to Ducati ST3, ST5 directs users to Space Technology 5.  -FeralDruid 16:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. The redirect was created in 23 May 2005. It has been around for 2 years. On 29 May of this year, there was a botched attempt to turn it into a disambig. -- JLaTondre 01:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * None of the first hundred googles for ST6 refer to the film. If not deleted outright, this should either be retargeted or made into a disambig. &mdash;Cryptic 20:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambig. There are a number of articles on Wikipedia that use the term. Any could be valid targets. See article for disambig alternative. -- JLaTondre 01:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems a reasonable enough redirect to me. If this was to become a disambig, what other pages would it go to (not a rhetorical question)?  Lankiveil 10:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The ones that I put on the page. -- JLaTondre 12:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per FeralDruid. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   17:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. There are many uses for this term, with Star Trek VI being one of least importance. NASA and many other agencies, companies, and organizations use this term to identify some of their projects or products. Therefore, the page could be useful if its a disambiguation page to existing and future articles using ST6 as a term or an acronym. - Mtmelendez (Talk 01:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambig per all above, or keep. I'm fine with either. GreenJoe 19:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Disambig per User:Mtmelendez. &mdash;Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 13:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment ST6 is also a ST postcode area. Lugnuts 17:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

VFR Tourism → Tourism
The result of the debate was Withdrawn. -- JLaTondre 19:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC) The former is not mentioned in the latter. Yechiel Man 15:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - The content was was merged into tourism, but the target section was later renamed to Tourism. I've highlighted the abbreviation and updated the redirect accordingly. --Tikiwont 08:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Good rebuttal; I withdraw the nomination.  Someone please close this. Yechiel Man  19:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The rich → Richmond, California
The result of the debate was retarget to Wealth. WjBscribe 01:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC) Unconventional use of common phrase in the English language. Aarktica 18:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I might suggest retargetting, possibly to Wealth. (I tried Wealthy, but that's a redirect to Wealth. Examination of Category:Wealth and related cats might yield other possible targets.)  Otherwise, deletion is probably the best bet.  I live a couple of miles from Richmond, CA, and I've never encountered this usage.  I suspect it's quite rare.  Xtifr tälk 01:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * and considering the town, a remarkably inappropriate term. DGG 06:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Retarget - I agree. I know if I were to type in "the rich", I would not be looking for Richmond, California. -- Tλε Rαnδоm Eδι  τ  оr   17:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Upper class. I think someone prefixing their search with "the" might be looking specifically for "rich people" (the group), in the senes of distinguishing between "the rich" and "the poor". An alternate target may be The Riches, a television series, but that seems a less likely destination to me. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 20:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Retarget - I believe that Wealth would probably be the best alternative. Although being rich is commonly tied to the upper classes, there are many exceptions. But in any case, definitely retarget away from Richmond. - Mtmelendez (Talk 01:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Wealth as it is more in-depth and directly relevant than Upper class. &mdash;Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 13:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Basuter sword → Final Fantasy weapons
The result of the debate was delete. WjBscribe 01:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC) "Basuter sword" is Engrish for "Buster sword" (the name of a weapon in Final Fantasy VII). Due to the recent merges, moves, and removal of fancruft in the Final Fantasy articles, there is no proper description of the Buster sword in any article, and thus this page really has nowhere to be redirect to. Kariteh 20:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Cloud Strife. People who hear of the Buster Sword and don't know where it's from will be directed somewhere useful.  The Buster Sword is most notable for being Cloud's sword, so it should be considered a part of his character design, in much the same way that Griever redirects to Squall Leonhart.  --&mdash; Δαίδαλος  Σ  17:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * But's what the deal with "Basuter"? Is it officially used? Seems like fan-invented Engrish. Kariteh 17:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Created by User:Gwern who has a history of trying to create redirects with every possible permutation of something that should be relatively simple. Now that I've found this out, my vote is speedily delete as nonsense.  Honestly, I'm pleasantly surprised that this user didn't create a "Busta sword" link!  --&mdash; Δαίδαλος  Σ  18:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Buster Sword currently redirects to Cloud Strife, so I am going ahead and redirecting Basuter sword to the same target, as is logical. I have no opinion on whether this should exist at all, but the target (if any) is obvious. --- RockMFR 22:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt "basuter" is widely-used; it isn't on the Internet, as evidenced by its 60 google hits. "Basuter sword" is worse with only 3, all of which are Wikipedia-derived.  The correct romanization of "buster" as pronounced in Japanese is "basutaa", which gets 1210 hits, though none for "basutaa sword". &mdash;Cryptic 23:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: This is a incorrect transliteration, and it is proven unused (as above) --Teggles 01:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as made-up transliteration. –Pomte 02:37, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete &mdash; big Final Fantasy fan here, and as far as I can tell, there's no real validity to this term. Cloud's sword is called the "Buster Sword" and that's that.  This could be some extremely bad Engrish transliteration, but then again, Wikipedia does not serve as a monument to the new depths that bad transliterations may sink to.  -- Cyde Weys  04:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Teggles. &mdash; Bluerで す. 04:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. &mdash;Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 13:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)