Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 February 7

February 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion on February 7, 2008

Quotes relating to rape → rape
The result of the debate was delete. —Remember the dot (talk) 05:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC) Originally a sub-article split from Rape in order to reduce space. (See here) These quotes have been moved into Wikiquote, and it is highly unlikely that anyone would be looking for this particular redirect anymore. ~Iceshark7 (talk) 23:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. As far as I know, cross-wiki redirects aren't generally necessary. Also, nobody but nobody is going to search for this. Bart133 (t) (c) 00:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cross-wiki redirects are generally discouraged, and Wikipedia would be the wrong site for this anyways; Wikiquote would be the more appropriate site.  Jd 027  chat 01:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Paki dot → Bindi (decoration)
 The result of the debate was delete. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a racist slang term for the dot that some South Asian women wear on their heads. While it's definitely a plausible search term, it's also offensive. Thoughts? h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 19:41, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. "Paki" is a derogatory term here in the UK, and I doubt anybody with any common sense would be using that term to search Wikipedia, and I don't think having derogatory terms as articles on Wikipedia is appropriate. [Jam][talk] 19:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - derogatory, unlikely search term. Bart133 (t) (c) 19:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keeep. I'm the one who added it, because I've heard people use the term when they actually meant to say bindi. So I thought the redirect would help people redirect to the correct term. Wikipedia is educational.--Sonjaaa (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I didn't know the actual term for the dot, and searched for "Paki dot" because that's all I knew about its name, despite its racist origins - so I think it is without doubt a plausible search term - but it's also offensive (although Wikipedia is not censored, indeed). By the way, Sonjaaa, I know this is offtopic, but I redirected your article to your constructed language a few months ago. I have no problem with Wikipedia having an article on you other than the fact that your notability seems to be related only to toki pona. Thoughts?--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 20:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I mean, in the United Kingdom at least, due to a large South Asian immigrant population, the term "Paki" is definitely offensive, as demonstrated by the controversy on Celebrity Big Brother 2007 (UK). Then again, as I said, Wikipedia is not censored, so I brought it here for discussion.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 21:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps then we need a short article explaining the racist implications, rather than just the redirect. DGG (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good luck in finding verifiable info for anything more than a stub...--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 17:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete or Article. I certainly vote against it being a plain redirect. If there are reliable sources that discuss it as a racist term, that is fine. Otherwise it should be deleted as "Paki" is definitely a derogatory term lumping together South Asians in general as demonstrated here by the name for a country created for Islamic people being used to describe an item of Hindu origin.--Peter cohen (talk) 14:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia → Wikimedia Foundation
The result of the debate was keep. —Remember the dot (talk) 05:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC) Self-referential, cross-namespace, should not be directing to mainspace article. Solumeiras (talk) 13:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: if the self-reference CNR is a problem (I have no opinion on this), then the following should be considered at the same time:


 * FOUND → Wikimedia Foundation
 * WMF → Wikimedia Foundation
 * Wikimedia Foundation → Wikimedia Foundation

There may be others - that article has a lot of links. — Gavia immer (talk) 14:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Weak keep. Redirects from the Wikipedia namespace to the article space are not harmful in the same way that they would be vice-versa.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 19:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Not a major issue, and a reasonable search.  MBisanz  talk 23:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, although we might as well redirect all those to the actual site instead of our article on it... JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)