Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 June 9

June 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 9, 2008

Allah lover → Islamofascism
The result of the debate was delete. Wizardman 15:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Per Criteria 3 and 7; Was a previously deleted article, but the term seems to be pejorative and overly flippant. There is no mention of "Allah lover" within Islamofascism and, at the most basic level, a moderate Muslim can love Allah without being termed Islamofascist. VegitaU (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Offensive, obscure and misleading.--Boson (talk) 22:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC) See below.


 * Delete per nom and Boson DA PIE EATER (talk) 23:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as offensive.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as "Allah lover" is not mentioned in target article (furthermore, "one who loves Allah" would be more properly directed to Islam or Muslim). While we might be personally offended by article names or redirects, we must also remind ourselves that NPOV rules do not apply to redirect; on the other hand, they do apply to main article, and if there is a NPOV alternative to Islamofascism, I would like to hear it myself. B.Wind (talk) 06:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Retarget' to Moslem, or should Jesus lover target Christian fascists? 70.51.10.156 (talk) 06:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

*Weak Keep as redirect to List of ethnic slurs, per Kauffner above. It seems to be a verifiable ethnic slur, so there's no problem with having a redirect there. Terraxos (talk) 14:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC) On second thoughts, delete - not sufficiently notable to be included. Terraxos (talk) 00:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom Splette :) How's my driving? 15:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Given the low number of hits in the google search above, it does not appear to be a particularly notable ethnic slur. Unless there is better evidence supporting it, I'd prefer to delete as trivial.  Rossami (talk) 16:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and retarget (changed from Delete). I think redirection to an article of a linguistic nature is acceptable. Nigger lover also redirects to List of ethnic slurs. List of religious slurs might be more appropriate in this case, but that is probably something for the talk page. --Boson (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Changed back to Delete in the light of comment by ChrisO. --Boson (talk) 05:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominator comment: Allah lover was deleted from List of ethnic slurs for lack of notability. -- VegitaU (talk) 22:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. I wrote a large chunk of Redirect, so I'm always interested to see how it's being applied in practice. I'd like to point out that the section on Neutrality of redirects is directly applicable to this case. Please note the line which says "However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources (as defined by Verifiability), it should be kept even if non-neutral". It would be helpful if people could provide evidence of whether or not this particular term has been used in multiple mainstream reliable sources - books, media, etc. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete; a quick Google search turns up "Allah lover" as the user name of several Muslims, as well as being used as a slur. It's not a plausible search term, but if it's kept I'd rather see it go to Islam or some other neutral page.--Prosfilaes (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominator comment: Agree. Jesus lover, another of his redirects, redirects to Christianity. These terms really depend greatly on context. -- VegitaU (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it's worth mentioning that Kauffner was also responsible for Cooling denier, which was speedily deleted following the discussion at Articles for deletion/Cooling denier. -- ChrisO (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominator comment: He also has created Warming denier under the same neologistic principle. -- VegitaU (talk) 17:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha. Stay focused, Kauffner. This is Redirects for Discussion, remember? The only way you can defend yourself is personally attacking me with something out of the blue from months ago?... That's pretty sad. Anyway, stop feeling so hurt because I gave you a warning on your page. Don't put conspiracy theory material in 9/11 articles or I'll have you blocked. Now back to this discussion. -- VegitaU (talk) 15:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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