Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 April 17

April 17
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 17, 2009

La Redoute → Mail order
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman 00:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think having a Redirect from Google to Search Engine, nor a redirect from the New York Times to newspaper make a lot of sense. Even if there is no article for La Redoute (yet), if you click on the link of an article about a company you don't reasonably expect an article about the general activity, but an article about the company itself ! Esurnir (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, possibly speedy G11 as essentially blatant advertising DGG (talk) 20:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

TFYR of Macedonia → Macedonia
The result of the discussion was Kept. There is no consensus on deleting any of these. Some editors seemed to have concern about individual ones. If they want to renominate those for individual debate, that is fine. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:55, 25 April 2009 (UTC)      delete. Macedonia has not only an insane amount of editing conflict, it also has amassed an insane amount of redirect cruft (as today's renaming of the main article has shown, when all these had to be fixed). Here are the least useful two dozen. There are plenty others, more useful ones. None of the ones I listed have significant incoming links (at most one or two from old talk pages, none from article space), and none gets more than 20 web hits per month, as per stats.grok.se for March 2009. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * TFYRM → Macedonia
 * TFYR → Macedonia
 * TFYR Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Macedonia, Former Yugoslav Republic of → Macedonia
 * F. Y. R. of Macedonia → Macedonia
 * F.Y. Republic of Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Republic of Skopje → Macedonia
 * Macedonian republic → Macedonia
 * Former Republic of Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Macedonia FYRO → Macedonia
 * Macedonia, Republic → Macedonia
 * Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) → Macedonia
 * F.Y.R. of Macedonia → Macedonia
 * FYRMacedondia → Macedonia
 * F.Y.R.Macedondia → Macedonia
 * F.Y.R.M. → Macedonia
 * R. Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Northern Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Makedonska Republika → Macedonia
 * FYR of Macedonia → Macedonia
 * Macedonian Slavs (Macedonians) → Macedonia
 * Slavic Macedonians(ethnic group) → Macedonia
 * keep At least those named for the TFYR Macedonia Macedonia, Former Yugoslav Republic of F.Y. Republic of Macedonia Macedonia, Republic, and all the "alternate spelling" of the official name of macedonia, which while there is maybe a debate about how the article should have been named (I never went on the article talk page so I wouldn't really know), if people were able to fight about it, then those names are "relevant" and potentially tried by some of the people using Wikipedia (especially since the search bar now "Autofill" the query which make some redirect more useful than ever before). However, I'm neutral for Northern Macedonia as I got no clue about how it's relevance even though I'm dubious but the "Macedonian Slavs" links sounds dubious as an article unless the respective article got berged into Macedonia which it seems it didn't. delete for them Esurnir (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The ones with "T" as in "TFYR..." are basically never used, and the ones with the comma are extremely unlikely search terms, as are the doubled ones with their own abbreviations in brackets. There are of course useful redirects at the standard forms Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, FYROM and even the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, and some capitalisation variants of those, but the rest are highly unlikely and have essentially no traffic at all. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:51, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * keep most of them i.e. those that are plausible variants on 'The Former Yugoslave Republic of Macedonia' as that is what the country is usually known as, in Europe anyway, regardless of where it finally ends up on Wikipedia. Redirects are so that people can find the useful content. PaulJones (talk) 07:54, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. Some of these appear to be marginally useful, and the rest are mostly harmless. If any are really a problem, they can be RfD'd individually, with better justification for deletion. (Also note that there is an RfA on the Macedonia naming dispute. Since ArbCom has agreed to hear this case, it might be best to wait to see what they say before deciding what to do with any redirects.) --Zundark (talk) 14:49, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep any that are a plausible variant of "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia", since they might be searched on. Delete Former Republic of Macedonia; that one's problematic. No opinion on others, except that the nominator should have split this nomination rather than make a single mass one. — Gavia immer (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. None of these appear to be errors.  Documents have used many of these terms, so it is useful to be able to find them on Wikipedia.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - harmless, and none seem to be misleading. Until a few days ago they largely pointed to Republic of Macedonia. --Rumping (talk) 23:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep all plausible search terms seem to be pointing to the right article - whether that article's title is correct is not subject of this forum. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 05:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Creating a life to save a life → Human cloning
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman 00:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

This isn't what Human cloning is. They are two different types of topics.  TheAE  talk / sign  18:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Agreed delete, one is a polemic the other is a subject. Esurnir (talk) 21:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * delete not useful as the two terms are not covering the same thing. PaulJones (talk) 07:56, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

KillerStyle → Reflection
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman 01:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Delete. No evident rationale behind this redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete per nom. It looks like this was originally intended to be a reference to Reflexion (band), but that band doesn't have any albums or songs by this name as far as I can find, nor any other connection to the phrase "KillerStyle". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC)