Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 December 14

December 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 14, 2009

If you feel my love (album)
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 02:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → If You Feel My Love (album) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

This article was created by a known sock puppet, then redirected to another article created by the same person, I suggest it be deleted as it is most likely a hoax. 117Avenue (talk) 23:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * keep, google confirmd the title, sock or not. By the way, where is the evidence it is a sockpuppet? - Altenmann >t 04:18, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence: Articles for deletion/Hannah Montana 4, and the warnings on User talk:STEF1995S. You cannot see all of his contributions, because when an article is deleted, the contributions he made on that article are also deleted. But from the contributions you can see, they are all vandalism. 117Avenue (talk) 04:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutral - While this is technically a valid alternative-capitalisation redirect to the target article (as long as the target article exists), it is also not useful because anyone who starts to type "If you f..." in the search box will receive If You Feel My Love (album) as one of the suggestions. –B LACK F ALCON  (T ALK ) 22:42, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Black Falcon. It'll be filled in anyway, plus created by sock. Wiz ard man  15:20, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

If Yoy Feel My Love (abum)
The result of the discussion was delete. Wiz ard man 23:21, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → If You Feel My Love (album) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

This redirect goes to an article created by a known sock puppet, I suggest it be deleted as it is most likely a hoax. 117Avenue (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * keep, google confirms the title, sock or not. YOu have to make delete the target article deleted first. - Altenmann >t 04:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note. Could you please rewrite that last sentence? I don't know what you are trying to say. 117Avenue (talk) 04:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry: Please make the target article deleted first: speedy or AfD. If the topic is OK, then redirect is OK and vice versa. "Known" sock puppets must be treated by wikipedia rules WP:SOCK (blocked if abusive). Otherwise it is an unjustified offense. - Altenmann >t 18:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, off to Articles for deletion/If You Feel My Love (album). 117Avenue (talk) 21:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Implausible typo, zero pageviews in November, no history. — The Man in Question (in question)  23:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It was created December 1. 117Avenue (talk) 00:07, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah! my bad. Still, the period between its creation and listing shows negligible pageviews. — The Man in Question (in question)  00:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * DElete: Implausible typo. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Major Mikhail Fetisov
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman 01:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → Andrei Chikatilo (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Redirect from a person's name to a biography of another person. Fetisov is mentioned in the article, but the connection is probably not significant enough for a redirect. snigbrook (talk) 19:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * delete - immaterial connection. - Altenmann >t 04:13, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Kosmikophobia
The result of the discussion was Delete without prejudice for recreation should the sourced information be added successfully to the target. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 02:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → List of phobias (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete as an unhelpful search term. There is no mention of "Kosmikophobia" on the list so it should be restored to red link status. This is helpful as redlinks can inspire people to start articles rather than have it redirect to an obscure place where it isn't mentioned. Tavix | Talk  01:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment this has already been an article which was merged as a result of the AfD; I think the problem here is not the redirect, but the removal of Kosmikophobia from the target. Google currently references this page if you ask for a define: of Kosmikophobia. There is a not insubstantial history for this page. Josh Parris 02:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * delete If you look into article, you will see it is nothing but a dicdef, and poorly referenced, too. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and its "merge" was correctly deleted from list of phobias, which, as other wikipedia lists, is a list of wikipedia articles. Every Greek, Latin, and even English noun or verb may be connected with suffix "-phobia" to make sometnig that probably someone may be scared of. The place of such coinages in in wiktionary. And looking at the deletion debate, I see the closure as quite contestable: all people, even those who were in favor of merge, actually said that it is nothing but dicdef in available sources. - Altenmann >t 04:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * keep, and add to the target article When an AfD gives a merge result,this is a keep, and the link and the history is intended to be kept. RfD is a very obscure process by comparison to AfD, and doing a total delete this way is in effect trying to evade community consensus which would not have given a delete, by doing it where it won;t be noticed. Peerhaps we need to change the rules, to put all RfD discussions of redirects from articles kept in AfD back into AfD, as the simplest way of getting them noticed. I don;t want to propose mergingthe entire RfD back, because that would encumber AfD needlessly for most of thew workload.    DGG ( talk ) 02:56, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Regardless the deletion discussion, kosmikophobia was removed from List of phobias, and is not supposed to be restored there, and this page cannot dictate what to do with List of phobias.  If you look into the talk page of List of phobias and its archives, it was agreed multiple times that this list, as all other wikipedia lists, must list artlices, not just words/dicdefs. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and dicdefs and lists thereof belong to wiktionary. - Altenmann >t 06:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Definitely a real term:   . Still, it is not mentioned in the article. — The Man in Question  (in question)  23:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * While I agree that the deciding factor in most cases should be whether the term is mentioned in the list, this is a redirect from a page whose content was merged into List of phobias (diff) and whose page history needs to be retained in order to preserve the attribution history as required by the GFDL. –B LACK F ALCON  (T ALK ) 22:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Then again, the merged content was removed (diff) from the list within 24 hours, so perhaps preserving the page history is not so crucial... –B LACK F ALCON  (T ALK ) 22:36, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Visually-impaired people encountering an elephant for the first time
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman 01:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → Blind men and an elephant (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete: not necessarily hurting anything, but it's quite an implausible search term. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 10:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment low traffic, no history, no links Josh Parris 11:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * delete This title coinage is dubious OR (visually impaired is not the same as blind), smelling of mockery of political correctness. - Altenmann >t 04:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete – although i LOLed. 188.221.240.150 (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ha! That's a good one. — The Man in Question (in question)  23:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)