Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 December 31

December 31
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 31, 2009

Curse of 1969
The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed nomination ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 05:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → 1969 Chicago Cubs season (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Article already nominated for deletion on Dec 13, 2008, neither its current target nor an earlier target (Sports-related curses) make reference to it  Me Three  ( talk to me )  13:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

'septu@dZInt
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Septuagint (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible. — The Man in Question (in question)  11:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - Very implausible. Very strange, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  19:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just realized it's in (inaccurate) SAMPA (accurate would be 'sEptu@dZInt). In which case, delete because SAMPA pronunciation is not a valid redirect (just as with all the IPA's below). — The Man in Question (in question)  19:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * SAMPA? Can't say I've heard of it, but my delete !vote still stands, per above reason, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  19:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * SAMPA is pretty much IPA with ordinary keyboard characters. — The Man in Question (in question)  22:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * dEl."i:t - unless we also have "baI.b@l and "dZi:zVs... --Jubilee♫ clipman  19:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

'nunu 'aɫvɐɾɨʃ pɨ'ɾɐjɾɐ
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 05:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Nuno Álvares Pereira (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Pedro Álvares Cabral (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Pedro Álvares Cabral (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Santa Comba Dão (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Tilde (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Island (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Friedrich Nietzsche (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Caron (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Józef Oleksy (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Kuala Lumpur (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → One Wales (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Lech Wałęsa (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Munich (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Scouse (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Szeged (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → 4 Vesta (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Mount Everest (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Stuttgart (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → ¡Ay, caramba! (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Barangay (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Gøtudanskt (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Esau (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Józef Zych (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Catalan language (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Søren Kierkegaard (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Martin Heidegger (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Paulo Coelho (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Sepoy (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Sochi (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Sulawesi (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Saarland (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Caron (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Lleida (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Island (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Dorset (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Jai alai (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Friedrich Hölderlin (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Lleida (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Jyllands-Posten (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Poznań (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Siesta (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Søren Kierkegaard (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Septuagint (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Isle of Man (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Horní Benešov (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Lleida (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Ophiuchus (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Gerhard Schröder (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Indonesia (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Carnegie Hall (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Gaborone (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Gaborone (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Indonesia (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Cartagena, Colombia (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Ophiuchus (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Indonesia (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Austria (links to redirect • [ history] • )

IPA pronunciation is not a valid redirect. — The Man in Question (in question)  11:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. I agree with all these as well as virtually any IPA representation and wonder if we can treat this is a class action without having to include every instance explicitly. By sheer coincidence I came across one such article, → Guinea-Bissau (not listed above), an hour and a half after this Rfd was posted, and discovered that User:Joseph_Solis_in_Australia had created a bunch of them. I started putting db-r3 on some until I realized that db-r3 requires recent creation and also discovered this Rfd, so I've reverted those. I think it would be unusual for anyone to try to look up information using IPA renderings, especially given that no one would expect articles to be findable this way, and that expectation is realistic given that almost no article is. This argument is a bit circular, but there you are. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that an IPA representation isn't helpful anyway unless the person looking up the word has the same pronunciation for it, the same accent, as was assumed by the person creating the redirect. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. Implausible, if not impossible, to type.  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - What would possess someone to type IPA pronunciations when searching for something. Unless...are there keyboards using solely IPA characters? In that case it...no, no, ignore that, that's ridiculous. Delete, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  19:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete all per all above. Completely useless redirects. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Dɪ'liːt as per all above, and that redirects from non-English alphabets should be used with care (even from other Latin alphabets with diacritics), and not mindlessly applied to any article one fancies. While I can see that it might be useful, for example, to redirect the names of Russian or Georgian or Serbian places from their equivalents in the Cyrillic alphabet, I can't see that it would be useful to redirect the names of Chinese foodstuffs in the Arabic alphabet, or whatever. It is a short step from that to becoming a (poor quality) translating dictionary. Si Trew (talk) 01:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - anyone feel like attempting to writing ʁepʊ'bliːk ˌøːstə'ʁaɪç rather than Austria? Nope, didn't think so...  --Jubilee♫ clipman  19:23, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

'erbal essence
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Herbal Essences (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible redirect. — The Man in Question (in question)  11:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above.  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The product is probably pronounced like this in some dialects of English. But it's never spelled this way, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  20:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Certainly I pronounce it this way. That doesn't account for the apostrophe. Next we'll have 'our and 'eir and 'onor. — The Man in Question (in question)  21:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hence the delete !vote, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  11:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as per TMIQ (though I do pronounce the H in herb.) Si Trew (talk) 01:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

'fish out of wate
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Fish out of water (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible typo + needless apostrophe. — The Man in Question (in question)  11:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete nonsense character omission and punctuation  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete not even in any dialect I can think of --Jubilee♫ clipman 19:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

'Zig'
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → All your base are belong to us (links to redirect • [ history] • )

No mention in target article + needless apostrophes. Not worth retargeting because of apostrophes. — The Man in Question (in question)  11:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I did a Google search, and found that "ZIG" is some sort of starfighter in the video game Zero Wing. (see Zero Wing, it says "The player, a "ZIG" star fighter, has several ways to attack:"). But the apostraphes are needless. Searching Zig (without apostraphes) will bring up a DAB page, where Zero Wing will be suggested. This leads me to believe that the apostraphes were inserted to get round the already existing article, and create a redirect to zero wing. Did anyone understand a word of that? I'm not good with words, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  20:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per all. Incidentally, I believe "zig" is or [ was] mentioned in the quote section of the article... but the apostrophes are silly -- Thin  boy  00  @066, i.e. 00:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the same disambig as zig (or leave alone and put a hatnote on the All your base article): In the original text (see my link above), "zig" is always surrounded by apostrophes. -- Thin  boy  00  @074, i.e. 00:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - could just as easily redirect to Zig and Zag. --Jubilee♫ clipman  19:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

'The Well' created by Melvin Burgess
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → The Well (2009 television programme) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible redirect. — The Man in Question (in question)  10:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete unlikely search term for title and author  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - This article was originally named "The Well created by Melvin Burgess", as can be seen from the history. It was moved to the current title by User:PhilKnight, and so a redirect was born. Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  20:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Harmless, use of single quotation marks might make sense in some bizarre dialect of English, redirects are cheap, this one is logical, etc. -- Thin  boy  00  @067, i.e. 00:36, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

'The Web'
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Beast Wars: Transformers (links to redirect • [ history] • )

No mention in target article. Use of apostrophes makes it unworthy of retargeting. — The Man in Question (in question)  10:49, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

'The Great White Hope'.
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Great White Hope (links to redirect • [ history] • )

With apostrophes and period, implausible. — The Man in Question (in question)  10:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

'The Godfather 1901-1959: The Complete Epic ''
The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Shubinator (talk) 20:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * → The Godfather Saga (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible search term. The final two characters are two apostrophes, not a quotation mark. As can be seen above, it is not even possible to link without special syntax. — The Man in Question (in question)  10:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. My apologies. I made an error when I created this redirect, which should certainly be deleted. I should have figured out how to tag it to get it deleted. Thanks for your attentiveness! Cheers, Easchiff (talk) 18:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - Does WP:G7 apply here? Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  20:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

'One'
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → National Express East Anglia (links to redirect • [ history] • )

One is far too broad a word to redirect to National Express East Anglia, and with the inclusion of apostrophes it is not worth retargeting to 1 (number) or One (disambiguation). — The Man in Question (in question)  09:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete The term "one"can mean anything Secret Saturdays   (talk to me)  16:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. Better to add as a link to the One page, if at all  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:09, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note. "one" (my quotes, their lowercase) was the operating name for National Express East Anglia, the train franchise for where I live, until they realised their silliness when making station announcements for "the one train to King's Cross" (the one and only?), "the next departure on platform one is the eight twenty one train" (what time does it leave?), and similar ambiguities. Si Trew (talk) 01:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The name as they rendered it, yes (—and interesting!). But the actual grammatical name was One (capitalized), as English grammar dictates. — the Man in Question (in question)  20:02, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

'New Year's Day' observed
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → New Year's Day (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Implausible + needless apostrophes. — The Man in Question (in question)  09:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above.  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Incidentally, how did you find all of these redirects with apostrophes? -- Thin  boy  00  @078, i.e. 00:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Division of Thai music
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 05:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Naresuan University (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Redirect created due to improper naming of an article, which was moved to Division of Thai Music, Department of Fine and Applied Arts, Faculty of Humanities, Naresuan University then deleted due to CSD A7 and redirected to Naresuan University. This redirect was subsequently re-redirected to Naresuan University due to the double redirect, but serves no navigational aid and is confusing, and so should be deleted. Paul_012 (talk) 08:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete apparently unrelated. Also delete  as being absurdly long.  -- Thin  boy  00  @080, i.e. 00:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

J. Invest. Dermatol.
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 05:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Nature (journal) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete. Completely misleading redirect for the Journal of Investigative Dermatology, which is published by the Nature Publishing Group. A redirect to the published (which was probably intended) doesn't make sense either, as the NPG publishes several journals. Delete for now. Recreate and target to Journal of Investigative Dermatology when that article isn't a redlink anymore. Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}<sub style="margin-left:-4.0ex;">κοντριβς – WP Physics} 07:49, 31 December 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as per above.  Me Three  ( talk to me )  17:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)