Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 March 25

March 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 25, 2009

Xenosaga grande ronde → Xenosaga
The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Unlikely search term. KuroiShiroi (talk) 21:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete can't find any mention of "grande ronde" in the article; highly implausible redirect. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪  22:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Korean Air Flight 801 passengers → Korean Air Flight 801
The result of the discussion was delete all except Barry Small, Park Yong-chul, and Yong-Chul Park--Aervanath (talk) 10:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Grace Chung
 * Chung Grace
 * Barry Small
 * Lee Yong Ho
 * Lee Yongho
 * Yong Ho Lee
 * Wendy Bunten
 * Park Yong-chul
 * Yong-Chul Park
 * Park Seung Bong
 * Jeannie Shim
 * Angela Shim
 * Hong Hyun Seong
 * Son Seung Hee
 * Lee Chang Woo
 * Kwon Jin Hye
 * Son Sun Yeo
 * Lee Jae Nam
 * You Jung Rye
 * Lee Pan Shak
 * Cho Seongyeo
 * Seongyeo Cho
 * Sung Yeo Cho
 * Cho Sung Yeo
 * Oh Sang Hee
 * Shim Sang Young
 * Song Yun-ho
 * Kim Duck-Hwan
 * Ju Se-Jin
 * Kim Jae Sung


 * Hong Hwa Kyung
 * Kim Ji Young
 * Lee Youn-Ji
 * Lynda Chung
 * Ahn Kijoon
 * Ahn Il Tae
 * Byun Sunmi
 * Byun Yeomi
 * Cha Sookyue
 * Chang Myungnam
 * Cho Jinhyung
 * Kwiyoung Cho
 * Cho Kwiyoung
 * Cho Minja
 * Cho Taeyoung
 * Cho Yunkyoung
 * Choi Jihoon
 * Song-Kyo Ho
 * Song Kyo-Ho
 * Song Kyo-ho
 * Park Yong-Chul
 * Song Kyung-ho
 * Song Kyung-Ho
 * Nam Suk-hoon
 * Nam Suk-Hoon
 * Tiffany Kang
 * Shim Sangyoung
 * Sang Young Shim
 * Sangyoung Shim

Delete as non-notable passengers "known" exclusively for flying on Korean Air Flight 801. I did, however, keep Rika Matsuda around as there is a section detailing her story. The rest are implausible search terms and anyone searching for one of these people are either searching for someone else, or finding a dead end as they aren't mentioned in the main article. Tavix (talk) 20:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom except Barry Small ("After the crash": survivor who lobbied for safety) and Park Yong-Chul ("Disaster": captain of the flight). The rest are either not mentioned at all in the article or mentioned only in passing. –Black Falcon (Talk) 20:22, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, I striked those two. Tavix (talk) 21:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete all that have not been struck out, per above. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪  03:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Park Yong-Chul was not a survivor, was one of the dead in the flight. -- ApprenticeFan Messages   Work  06:03, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * When did anyone say he was a survivor? Tavix (talk) 01:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really, see my response at top. -- ApprenticeFan talk  contribs 11:21, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete as non-notable, comment - Alaska Airlines Flight 261 has a long list of passenger redirects as well that are not mentioned in the article or particularly notable. MilborneOne (talk) 13:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep the ones for names that are mentioned in the article, delete all others. If the name is mentioned in the article, it's a good target for the redirect. The redirects can be tagged with R to list entry. That template is precisely for this type of redirect. -- User:Docu

SSSSSS → Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
The result of the discussion was delete--Aervanath (talk) 10:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Unlikely redirect. Short for "Super Special Sonic Search and Smash Squad" according to the summary, but I've found no evidence of this title being abbreviated as SSSSSS Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, or possibly retarget to Snake? Tavix (talk) 18:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, I don't think sssssso. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't really think so either, I'm just putting it out there. Tavix (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Seriously? So silly! Simply superfluous. Sorry... delete per nom. –Black Falcon (Talk) 19:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You win. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete A very unlikely redirect. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪  02:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to SSSSSSS? --NE2 07:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Cannon Beach City Center, Oregon → Cannon Beach, Oregon
 The result of the discussion was delete. Unlikely search term.--Aervanath (talk) 10:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC) Nothing links to it. redirects to Cannon Beach, OR <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" color="#99ccfff" size="3">Travis Thurston <font color="#000000">+  04:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete – not a plausible search term, no incoming links, no Google hits for the phrase. I think that anyone searching for information about the city center of Cannon Beach, Oregon would just look for the article about the city itself. –Black Falcon (Talk) 04:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - there were incoming links until you removed them. Here's a sign that refers to Cannon Beach City Center (the city name is not on the sign, but is added in the table for maximum clarity). --NE2 08:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Every city has one or more signs indicating "City Center", but that hardly makes "[City name] city center, [State name]" a likely search term... And while there are a few online uses of "Cannon Beach city center" (all results are lowercase, by the way), it is not at all surprising that the same is true for the combination of virtually any city name with the phrases/words "city center", "suburbs", or "outskirts". None of it changes the likelihood that someone will search for "[City name] city center, [State name]" instead of "[City name], [State name]" or just "[City name]" (Cannon Beach redirects to Cannon Beach, Oregon). –Black Falcon (Talk) 17:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, none of that has any bearing on whether a redirect should exist. --NE2 19:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "[T]hat hardly makes '[City name] city center, [State name]' a likely search term"... I guess it was lost in the mess of quotation marks and square brackets, but being an unlikely search term directly affects the need for a redirect. If you disagree that it's unlikely to be searched, then of course that's something else. –Black Falcon (Talk) 19:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Simply being an unlikely search term does not mean that a redirect should be deleted. The important thing here is that there are valid incoming links. --NE2 19:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There weren't any until you reverted. While I agree that we should generally not edit articles for the sole purpose of "fixing" redirects, I can't see any reason to revert such a change once it is made, especially when it is in question whether "Cannon Beach City Center" (all caps) is a recognized name. Besides, it's simple enough to once again remove the incoming links during the course of a more general edit to improve the article. –Black Falcon (Talk) 19:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You need to read WP:R2D, especially "redirects can indicate possible future articles". (More likely in this case is a possible future section of the Cannon Beach article that the redirect can be retargeted to.) --NE2 20:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have read it and I still think either Cannon Beach, Oregon city center or Cannon Beach city center (lowercase for both) would be more fitting redirects than this one, but fair enough... In the end, it's just a redirect and neither keeping nor deleting it will be too much of a big deal. Cheers, –Black Falcon (Talk) 20:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't believe this is being discussed... If these links were made to point to the correct page to begin with, we wouldn't need a redirect page for them. Or for that matter, every other "city center" sign on this planet. Is there a Honolulu City Center, Hawaii redirect page? I sure hope not. Because there are about a thousand signs that could justify the creating of that page too. Sounds like a lot of wasted time and (although minimal), server space, processing, etc. The only reason I found this "article" is that my search box autofills wiki terms when I'm typing, and when I typed Cannon Beac... I found that two results were coming up; Cannon Beach, Oregon and Cannon Beach City Center, Oregon. That's reason enough for deletion. --<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" color="#99ccfff" size="3">Travis Thurston <font color="#000000">+  23:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)