Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 May 21

May 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 21, 2009

Tolololpedia
The result of the discussion was Keep/no consensus to delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * → Uncyclopedia

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 * keep its in the 'Uncyclopedia in other languages' section of the target as the Indonesian name. PaulJones (talk) 23:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per PaulJones. -  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 01:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Inept
The result of the discussion was Retarget to Incompetence, protection request can be made at WP:RFPP if someone believes that is necessary. VegaDark (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Delete. Redirects to a section which was deleted 9 months ago. Page subject to abuse. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 17:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * → Social skill
 * Delete, and protect against re-creation. This redirect is apparently a vandalism magnet, and is wasting editors' time. Eubulides (talk) 19:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Incompetence where a variation is mentioned. Protect if thought necessary; we don't delete because of vandalism. TerriersFan (talk) 21:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Incompetence. A good target is better than a red link. If it's vandalized, protect it. — Gavia immer (talk) 22:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Retarget and semiprotect per above.--Cicely of Sicily (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)--Cicely of Sicily (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * retarget to Incompetence. PaulJones (talk) 23:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Guduzheng
The result of the discussion was delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Delete. This is a nonsense redirect. No reliable source uses the word "guduzheng" to mean "autism". Eubulides (talk) 16:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of a RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * → Autism
 * delete as no apparent connection. PaulJones (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Guduzheng is a non-english term for autisim, Chinese maybe? Or Retarget to the wiki of it's language. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 05:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't redirect to another language (I just tried with Guduzheng, and it didn't work. There is no reason to redirect foreign-language terms in the English wikipedia (unless the terms are used in English, which is not the case here). Eubulides (talk) 05:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as a redirect from a non-English translation of a term, where there is no natural connection between the language in question (I'm guessing it's Mandarin) and the topic of the target page. Foreign-language redirects like "München → Munich" are useful as plausible search terms because there is a natural connection between Munich and the German language: Munich is located in Germany, where the German language is the predominant language. However, redirects like "Miunchenas → Munich", which is basically no different than this redirect, are not needed because there is no natural connection between Munich and Lithuanian. –B LACK F ALCON  (T ALK ) 01:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Autistic spectre
The result of the discussion was delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * → Autism
 * Delete. Apparently a joke redirect (a play on Autistic spectrum). An autistic ghost? Eubulides (talk) 16:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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 * Delete Unlikely search term. Seems to mock Autism. -  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 01:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - made-up term, and a somewhat insulting one at that. Robofish (talk) 03:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Diner Town Tycoon
The result of the discussion was Speedy close Not an RFD issue. You can WP:BOLDly overwrite the redirect with a new article. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Diner Town Tycoon is a sequel of Diner Dash series. However, this should be written in an article rather than a redirect page. Explorer09 (talk) 13:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * → Diner Dash

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Ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384
The result of the discussion was delete. VegaDark (talk) 19:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

No idea what the heck this is, but I can't see it being a likely search term. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 16:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * → Mozilla Firefox
 * I believe this is the registry entry for a few versions of Firefox; I searched my registry with Firefox version 3.0.10 (en-US) installed with no hits, however a quick search on Google returns many hits to Firefox –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 17:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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 * Delete as a highly improbable and rather dated search term. Registry entry is for Firefox versions 1.5.*, a set of versions that have been deprecated for roughly 5 years.  Wikipedia is not an archive of obsolete registry codes and redirects should not be used to circumvent this. --Allen3 talk 23:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per Allen3, unplausable search term.  American Eagle  ( talk ) 17:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't quite make the connection between those two terms - not even closest... -  F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 01:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Nazism and mysticism
The result of the discussion was no consensus, feel free to turn into a disambiguation page at editorial discretion. VegaDark (talk) 19:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * → National Socialism and Occultism


 * → National Socialism and Occultism
 * → National Socialism and Occultism
 * → National Socialism and Occultism
 * → National Socialism and Occultism

Delete - These are all redundant redirects to National Socialism and Occultism. We were recently discussing whether we should move that article at Talk:National Socialism and Occultism, and since I don't see an clear consensus I would like to take precautions in case this article will be moved again, probably several times. Save the bot that fixes the double redirects some work. More importantly, however, I don't see any reason for these redirects at all, and I have read almost all secondary literature on the topic I could find. All redirects were created by User:Sam Spade in 2004, who has left Wikipedia quite some time ago. I don't know where he got the phrase "Nazi mysticism" from, it certainly isn't in the secondary literature I've read. The closest to the phrase is "the Nazi Mysteries", but that's it. I know that there is a risk that links in old revisions of WP articles get broken, but I think this is acceptable, whereas the confusion that these redirects might cause to an accidental reader is not. Also: There isn't any significant edit history in any of them. Zara1709 (talk) 01:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep all. These seem like reasonable targets - our readers are not necessarily going to parse any difference between "mysticism" and "occultism", so these will help with searching. — Gavia immer (talk) 22:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, "Nazism and Mysticism" could as well refer to Esoteric Nazism or religious aspects of Nazism and that like. What they are supposed to refer to is impossible to tell, since this phrase (unlike "National Socialism and Occultism") is not used in the secondary sources at all. As far as page titles can be wp:original research, these are. Zara1709 (talk) 00:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep all per above.--Cicely of Sicily (talk) 20:20, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Turn into disambiguation page. Specifically, turn Nazi mysticism into a disambiguation page, and redirect the others there. I think these are plausible search terms, but as Zara1709 points out, they could mean several possible things; so, a disambiguation page is the best solution. Robofish (talk) 03:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would prefer to see those redirect deleted completely, but this solution is acceptable to me. Zara1709 (talk) 09:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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