Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 29

December 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 29, 2010

T:



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Snow keep all. It's quite possible that a few of these may get other results if nominated separately, but the concensus for the group (and the T: prefix) seems clear. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:ArbComOpenTasks (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Admin_dashboard (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:AIV (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Centralized_discussion (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:CricketRecentChanges (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Did_you_know (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Clear (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Clear (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 3 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 4 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 3 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Queue (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Queue/1 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Queue/2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Queue/3 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Template:Did you know/Queue/4 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * <span id="T:DYK/Q5"> → Template:Did you know/Queue/5 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * <span id="T:DYK/Q6"> → Template:Did you know/Queue/6 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template talk:Did you know (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:In the news (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:ITNbox (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:ITNbox (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Multiple image (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Notability (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:One source (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Other uses templates - documentation (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:RFPP (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Spotlight (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:One source (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template talk:Did you know (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:UAA (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:Video game reviews (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:WP Artemis Fowl todo (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:WikiProject Biography (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:WikiProject Proposal (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:WikiProject Georgia Tech (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:WikiProject Proposal (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template talk:Did you know (links to redirect • [ history] • ) Found a bunch more of these T: redirects to the template namespace. Really quite unnecessary cross-namespace redirects. SeeRedirects for discussion/Log/2010 December 6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs)
 * Keep all T: as a shortcut to Template: should be formalized, not deleted. These are, in toto, quite useful shortcuts. Jclemens (talk) 01:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no need for a pseudo-namespace here: templates are usually called using curly-bracket syntax and in that case no namespace declaration is needed at all. "Quite useful" isn't, as you're fully aware, any form of argument in itself. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 09:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Curly-bracket syntax is useful for transclusion, T: syntax is for navigation. Since the opposition to T: syntax largely seems to stem from the fact that T: is in "article space", the usefulness of these is not particularly less compelling an argument.  Want to solve the problem? Find a way to make T: not in article space or find another way to quickly and equivalently navigate to template space. Jclemens (talk) 09:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Curly-brackets can be used for navigation, such as by typing DYK, which produces DYK. Also, it's not just that T: is in article space, it's that T: is ambiguous. See my comment below. --- cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 19:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Try typing that into a HTTP line, or the searchbox. It won't work, it will only work if you use preview on an edit, which is useless for a user's own navigation, only useful for building navigation pages. 184.144.166.27 (talk) 04:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the outcome of the previous discussion and the arguments there. These redirects are in article space - article space should be for articles, not templates. It is unclear whether the "T:" pseudo-namespace to the "Talk" namespace or the "Template" namespace. We have T:MP redirecting to Talk:Main Page. These don't really seem necessary either. The fact that there are only a few of them and that they are very rarely used shows that they are not really necessary. It's not much more difficult to type " UAA " than " T:UAA " (it's just 1 extra character) and using the tl template is widely used and recognised across the site. Mhiji (talk) 01:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep for all the DYK-related redirects, which are used a heap. T:TDYK for example gets 2K views/month. No comment on any of the others. Sideways713 (talk) 09:14, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Why speedy? Mhiji (talk) 21:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * As long as it's kept in RFD the redirects don't work properly, causing inconvenience to Wikipedians all over the world. This isn't so bad usually because most nominated redirects aren't used all that much, but with something like T:TDYK it really causes a disruption. It's like somebody nominated RFD (except that that gets less than half the monthly views!) There's an overwhelming consensus at keeping (and this stuff certainly isn't either really harmful or very recent, quite the opposite), so why not get it over with as little inconvenience as possible? Sideways713 (talk) 09:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not a reason to speedy keep... Mhiji (talk) 00:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all Very handy shortcuts when going to templates, especially T:TDYK, which I use all the time. Simon Burchell (talk) 09:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Definitely keep DYK related shortcuts as they are very useful. Don't have any particular opinion as to the others. SmartSE (talk) 11:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec) Definitely 'Delete the non-DYK ones, and the dyk/Q.s. /N, /NN and /NC. The other DYK's may need an alternative mechanism in place, before they go. Rich Farmbrough, 11:53, 30 December 2010 (UTC).


 * Keep at least T:TDYK or T:DYKT, or provide an alternative for navigation. cmadler (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep all. These shouldn't even have been nominated. There's nothing wrong with T: pseudo-namespace redirects. Some I use very often and are indispensable, like T:WPBIO I use almost every day, because I often update the WPBiography banner but can never remember those damn workgroup parameters.. this shortcut takes me right to the section I need. -- &oelig; &trade; 13:11, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep all. The whole point of such redirects is to speed up navigation - so we spend more time on useful stuff like editing and maintaining Wikipedia. The only logic for deleting any of the above IMO is where there is a stronger (i.e. more frequently used) candidate for a specific shortcut. That should be a separate discussion. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep All As an aid to navigation for the associated templates that have been in use for an extended period of time. There appears to be no benefit to the project from their deletion. Alansohn (talk) 18:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep All for easy navigation. The curly bracket undefined notation is fine on talk pages, but useless if you want to type something quickly in the search box. There really ought to be something akin to the WP: prefix in the mediawiki software for templates, though. --NSH001 (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment if this is formalized for templatespace shortcut for navigation, what is it for "template talk"? And should the "P:" redirects also being deleted, also be formalized for portalspace? Then what of "portal talk"? Is template talk going to be "U:" ? ("TT:", "MST:" both failed as proposals for aliases into template talk space). 184.144.166.27 (talk) 18:54, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Noone needs a shortcut to Template talk: or Portal talk:, they're not frequently trafficked namespaces. These pseudonamespace shortcuts were created precisely because there's a need for them, and they are frequently used. -- &oelig; &trade; 01:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * As a categorical statement, it is false that all of these redirects are needed or used. Neither T:WPTECH nor Template:WikiProject Georgia Tech are frequently visited. Anomie⚔ 02:17, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Then shortcuts such as T:WPTECH should on their own be nominated for deletion, on a case-by-case basis according to need and use. -- &oelig; &trade; 04:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No one needs a shortcut to template talk? That's a very odd statement to make, since some template talk pages get quite a bit of traffic. 184.144.166.27 (talk) 04:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If a certain Template talk: namespace page gets a lot of traffic then why not create a T: pseudo-namespace shortcut there? Those who use it and know it exists also know where they're going when they use that specific shortcut. I can't see a user getting confused by typing in a very specific shortcut and expecting to be taken to a Template namespace page when there are so few T: shortcuts in existence to begin with. That's part of the freedom of pseudo-namespaces they're not defined by the software so we can create shortcuts to wherever we need to go the most. -- &oelig; &trade; 04:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment if this is formalized into a templatespace alias, that would be better, since they would no longer be redirects in articlespace; it would be templatespace itself that has an alias (like WT: and WP:, actual namespace markers) 184.144.166.27 (talk) 18:56, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: It's not just that the T: prefix is in the mainspace. It's also that T: is ambiguous. It could refer to the Talk: namespace or the Template: namespace, or possibly the Template talk: namespace. And I know these are useful for the searchbar, but they're not really necessary. Additionally, if a person uses the links often, they could theoretically create a toolbox on their userpage (or if they're really good with figuring it out, modify their skin to create a personal toolbox) with links to those pages. --- cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 19:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I've created quite a few templates, and it's annoying to have to type out "template:" in front of their name any time I want to get to any one of them through the search box. A toolbox, whether on user page or via the skin, is impracticable when there are several dozen you might want to reach. Possible ambiguity can be dealt with by discussion - I'd suggest T: for template:, TT: for template talk:, P: for portal:, PT: for portal talk:. I don't see any need for an abbreviation for talk:, but if one is wanted, I'd suggest TK:. In any case, aliases provided by the software would be better, but until we have them, these redirects should stay. --NSH001 (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * TT: for template talk won't happen, tt is already in use as the interwiki prefix for the Tatar language. And aliases provided by the software would impede creation of possible article titles that start with P: PT: etc. so there's no benefit in restricting those when those shortcuts would be infrequently used. No, we should stick with pseudo-namespace shortcuts and only create those that for high traffic pages that would require them. -- &oelig; &trade; 05:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete most If some of the DYK ones are used as often as claimed above, keep them. But most of these seem useless except for the supremely lazy. Anomie⚔ 20:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Strong keep. I use T:TDYK on a everyday basis, it is very usefull. I can't see any problem with the other redirects either. --Soman (talk) 21:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Why speedy? Mhiji (talk) 21:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Corrected now. I meant 'strong'. --Soman (talk) 14:39, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, and as soon as possible, because I really found it annoying to be diverted here when typing "T:TDYK" and I see I'm not the only one. On the surface it seems like "T" would be confusing, but in fact it's not since I think only one of those redirects, T:MP, goes to an actual talk page. There is simply no other need for a shortcut to a mainspace talk page; in all other namespaces the talk pages are accounted for by an added "T": WP --> WT, T ---> TT, and so forth. Daniel Case (talk) 22:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment a proposal has been opened at VP to implement an alias, see Village_pump_(proposals) . 184.144.166.27 (talk) 04:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep at least the DYK redirects - I type "T:TDYK" all the time to get to the page and was surprised to find it nominated for deletion today. Parsecboy (talk) 16:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - atleast the DYK ones - I'm pretty sure they're used on a regular basis. Connormah (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep all as useful well-known shortcuts. --Mkativerata (talk) 00:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all as extremely useful shortcuts. Strikehold (talk) 03:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all - I use some of these almost every day, and the others appear to be highly useful shortcuts. (I would not want to have to type out "Template talk:Did you know" every time I wanted to go there.) Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:23, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep at least the Main Page related shortcuts (DYK, ITN etc). These are frequently used, highly visible and very useful shortcuts, which are more convenient and can be used in more situations than tl. T:MP is and always has been a unique one-off page, in the same way as Main Page is uniquely in article space. It's continued existence should not influence the decision of what to do with other T: redirects. <b style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:maroon;">Modest Genius</b> talk 15:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I see many comments that all of these redirects should be kept because they are "highly useful" or "used on a regular basis". Let's look at the numbers:
 * T:TDYK/T:tdyk has been viewed 2000 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK has been viewed 541 times in November 2010.
 * T:ITN has been viewed 267 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q has been viewed 141 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/P1 has been viewed 72 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/P3 has been viewed 56 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/P2 has been viewed 56 times in November 2010.
 * T:MI has been viewed 52 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q6 has been viewed 52 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/P4 has been viewed 52 times in November 2010.
 * T:OU has been viewed 50 times in November 2010.
 * T:SINGLE has been viewed 46 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/N has been viewed 46 times in November 2010.
 * T:ONES has been viewed 43 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYKT has been viewed 39 times in November 2010.
 * T:WPBIO has been viewed 33 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q3 has been viewed 26 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q5 has been viewed 25 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q1 has been viewed 23 times in November 2010.
 * T:CRW has been viewed 22 times in November 2010.
 * T:UAA has been viewed 21 times in November 2010.
 * T:VGR has been viewed 20 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q4 has been viewed 20 times in November 2010.
 * T:WP_Proposals has been viewed 19 times in November 2010.
 * T:ITN_BOX has been viewed 19 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/N/C has been viewed 19 times in November 2010.
 * T:S has been viewed 18 times in November 2010.
 * T:TT has been viewed 16 times in November 2010.
 * T:RFPP has been viewed 15 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/NN has been viewed 14 times in November 2010.
 * T:CENT has been viewed 13 times in November 2010.
 * T:AC has been viewed 13 times in November 2010.
 * T:WPTECH has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:WPAF has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:P2 has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:N has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/Q2 has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/C has been viewed 12 times in November 2010.
 * T:AIV has been viewed 11 times in November 2010.
 * T:AD has been viewed 11 times in November 2010.
 * T:ITNBOX has been viewed 10 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/P has been viewed 10 times in November 2010.
 * T:WPProp has been viewed 8 times in November 2010.
 * T:DYK/PE has been viewed 6 times in November 2010.
 * While some of them do seem to be at least somewhat well-used, many of these are used only a few times per month, which doesn't really seem to be "highly used". Anomie⚔ 16:21, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * Keep all. All of them are used, none of them conflict with anything (at least no evidence has been given that they do), and none are offensive. RfD is not the place to formalise or eradicate the T: pseudo-namespace, so mass nominations like this are not helpful especially with the vast range of hits these get so until an RfC or other proposal decides one way or the other about the class, we should keep all of them. If anyone has any particular objections to any particular redirect, then nominate it individually with reference to that specific redirect, not its membership of the class. Thryduulf (talk) 20:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all, because they're helpful. If you object to ones that are used just six times per month, nominate them separately: the idea of shortcuts to talk pages being formatted like this is well established, and there's no reason to inconvenience people by getting rid of the shortcuts.  Regarding Mhiji's comment — if these redirects are deleted, how do you propose for me to get to one of these pages without typing the full name?  I'll frequently type the full URL with the shortcut to get to one of these pages when I'm at another site, or I'll cut the URL down to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and add the shortcut.  There's no other way to go directly to the intended page, other than typing a sometimes-long name that I can't always remember.  Nyttend (talk) 06:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all, particularly T:TDYK which is an extremely helpful redirect.  Harrias  <sup style="color:#009900;">talk 15:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep all. "t:tdyk" was subject of this previous RFD where decision was keep.  Why would this be re-suggested, i don't know.  KEEP. --74.79.40.86 (talk) 01:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The outcome of that RFD was "no consensus", and as about 9 months has passed since that discussion a second nomination is not unreasonable imho, especially as it's part of a group nomination. I don't the group nomination is reasonable (see my comments above), but given that it has been made, and my reason for disliking the group nomination are not relevant to the previous discussion about t:tdyk, including it in the nomination is perfectly fine. Thryduulf (talk) 01:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Close discussion as keep as soon as practicable, having frequently used links like T:TDYK not redirecting as they should for this (as far as I can tell) needless discussion is somewhere between irritating and disruptive. EdChem (talk) 16:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure why T:AH is omitted here, but keep all.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There was an open discussion about that redirect already when this nom was made (see Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_15). Mhiji (talk) 20:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least T:TDYK and T:DYK because I use them daily :-). Seriously, do they interfere with something or any other serious reason for deletion? Materialscientist (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep A well-intentioned, but perhaps badly formatted nomination likely to end in disaster. It's true that while T: has ambiguity, there is some agreement about which ones should be used, particularly those as clearly shown through the page view statistics and the incoming links. Perhaps it is a previous nomination that sets a bad precedent for this one, but these redirects should be nominated on an individual basis, not collectively despite their common purposes. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  00:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Toxophile
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 * The result of the discussion was Toxophile Retargetted to Extremophile, Toxophilite Kept.  Lenticel  ( talk ) 01:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Disambig redirect; retarget to an appropriate regular article, if there is one. bd2412 T 23:36, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * → Archer (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Archer (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * "toxophile"/"toxophil" and "toxophilite" are two different words with very different meanings, and the meaning of the latter indicates that redirecting toxophilite &rarr; archer is a fairly good idea (as is redirecting toxophily &rarr; archery). The appropriate target for the former is probably toxicity right now. Uncle G (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Archer is a disambiguation page, and it is not a good idea to redirect there because "Toxophile" could never refer to Archer, or Archer, or Archer. bd2412  T 21:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe redire to .. oh that word that means stuff that flourishes in harsh environments... ? Rich Farmbrough, 12:05, 30 December 2010 (UTC).


 * Extremophile. Rich Farmbrough, 12:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

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 * Keep toxophilite, retarget toxophile to extremophile, and add hatnotes to both targets as confusion between the two is not uncommon. Thryduulf (talk) 20:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I've fixed the disambig term. I will add hatnotes once this is formally closed. bd2412  T 00:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Bomzh
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 * The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator after it had been retargetted. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


 * → Bum (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Disambig redirect. Aside from the vague similarity in sound, I am not seeing the connection between the redirect term and any term on the disambig page. bd2412 T 23:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wrong target. A seonds googleing shows Bomzh to be an eastern block name for an outcast, homeless person or tramp (hence "bum" in American vernacular). Rich Farmbrough, 12:35, 30 December 2010 (UTC).


 * That's good enough for me. Cheers! bd2412  T 04:34, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Chicken claw
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy Keep, nom withdrew the rfd.  Lenticel  ( talk ) 08:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


 * → Crow& (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Disambig redirect; not at all clear to me that the term should generically redirect. Perhaps re-redirect to chicken feet, and create a separate disambig page for other things known as a "Chicken claw"? bd2412 T 23:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You can be bold and make that sort of change. Rich Farmbrough, 11:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

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 * Close - I've dabified the entry per nom. Please check if the entries are okay or if you could add more. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me, removing the tag. Cheers! bd2412  T 02:54, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Carl Philip, Duke of Vermillandia
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 * The result of the discussion was delete both. JohnCD (talk) 18:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * → Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Prince Carl Philip, Duke of Värmland (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete - these are madeup titles of a living person; see also Articles for deletion/Carl of Vermillandia. Their existence leads to phoney pages like http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carl-Philip-Duke-of-Vermillandia/153752801302994?sk=wiki /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's Facebook's problem. They are using redirects wrongly - as synonyms. Mark as redirect from wrong title, if you wish. Rich Farmbrough, 12:24, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

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 * I can use R from incorrect name for the historical people, but these two redirects are a bit of a BLP issue. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both. There are no English-language sources I have found using these names outside Wikipedia and its mirrors. The fact that a Wikipedia editor wants to promote the use of the name "Vermillandia" (an exonym for Värmland only confirmed to have been used in Latin) is not sufficient reason to create redirects such as this. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Desiree Jennings controversy
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 * The result of the discussion was at Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 January 13. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


 * → Vaccine controversy (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unhelpful redirect: not mentioned in the target article. This article was previously deleted at AFD; it should just have been left as a red link, since this redirect isn't going to help anybody. Robofish (talk) 18:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep It is more helpful than no redirect since it says that the controversy is vaccine related. Possibly it should have been left as a red link, but it wasn't. Rich Farmbrough, 12:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

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