Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 January 2

January 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 2, 2010

Basket of Puppies
The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 23:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Anthrax (band) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Respectfully request deletion of this redirect. I believe it is a hoax. Basket of Puppies 23:46, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep. Not sure its a hoax, per se. I believe it refers to the statement the band made around the time of the Anthrax terror scares, suggesting they could change their name to Basket Full of Puppies. Its simply a derivation of that name. Rockpock  e  t  00:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I edit conflicted posting the same link, so I endorse the above comment. However, I'm not certain we need the nominated redirect, given that the correct name already redirects to the same target. — Gavia immer (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. They didn't name themselves this, and just joked about it, as is clearly stated in the article. It's not their name, and in my opinion it's not appropriate to create a redirect to them as though it is. For that matter, the more precise term, "basket full of puppies", is also not appropriate. In the event anyone actually input this phrase, the wikipedia search engine results should display pages containing the words.  YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 04:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Given that the joke (which is mentioned at Anthrax (band)) uses the wording "Basket Full of Puppies", this redirect should be deleted. Basket Full of Puppies, on the other hand, should remain. Cnilep (talk) 17:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, just a mistaken version of what is at this point a very unlikely search term.  Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 04:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Glenfarclas.Pcap ping  12:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete we don't need an incorrect link to an off-hand joke.--agr (talk) 20:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. -- MW  talk   contribs  02:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

How does one edit a page/Redirect traffic from one page to another page
The result of the discussion was delete all. Killiondude (talk) 23:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Wikipedia:Redirect (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wikipedia:Your first article (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unuseful cross-namespace redirects. Why would an editor type a question into the search box? And should such behavior be encouraged? — The Man in Question (in question)  22:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete all. These things come about because of misunderstandings as to what the search box is for. We already have a search engine with boxes to select if one wants to search articles, templates, help sections, etc. And in any event, normal users don't input something like, "how does one edit a page", as though he's talking to a sentient being. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 04:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - I do believe that cross-namespacing is something we should avoid, and this is not what the search box is supposed to be for. This is why we have welcome templates and deletion notifications, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  14:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all as unnecessary and unhelpful cross-namespace redirects. Cnilep (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all. They don't really help the user, and they play havoc with article maintenance lists (which is how I found this one).-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  01:40, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

What was I just thinking of
The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 23:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Train of thought (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Silliness. Wikipedia cannot accommodate the notions of individual users. — The Man in Question (in question)  22:55, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. I suppose this has a barely plausible relation to the target, but it's better for the encyclopedia if queries like this return nothing at all, rather than trying to accommodate them with such targets. — Gavia immer (talk) 23:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsensical, implausible, not helpful. This isn't a search engine or thesaurus helping people come up with words to match their thoughts. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 04:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not really appropriate. I doubt the majority search for this actually hoping to find the target. It's probably better we don't have vague things like this, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  14:07, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. But it would be kinda nice if it redirected to Special:Random. Si Trew (talk) 01:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Android (operating system
The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 23:47, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Android (operating system) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

I cannot for the life of me figure out a reason for the creation of this. I asked the creator a little while ago (who could well be inactive/on wikibreak) but to no avail. On the surface, it seems like an implausible typo, but it does seem to have been created intentionally. I cannot figure out why it gets the page hits it does either, so I've brought it here for discussion. I'd propose deletion, because while harmless it ain't good practice have redirects for every disambiguated page less the final paren. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 22:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Implausible and unhelpful. The willful creation of the article is confusing. — The Man in Question (in question)  22:10, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible and unhelpful. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 04:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think this was me, I am back from wiki break. Whenever I commit a typo, especially an easy typo or a type caused by a likely user behavior I create a redirect from the page to the final result of my search.  I assume wikipedia works the way I want it to work, and whenever it doesn't it, I fix it by adding a helpful redirect. I think yall have between you presented a strong argument for many of the redirects I've made.  They are at worst harmless, and they were very helpful for me, it's why I made them.  I often make the same mistake twice. I make a point that everything is redirected to the mostly likely desired page. Wikipedia has awful, awful, awful search functionality.  Fortunately it is very public, so google makes up for the poor search.  But any user can help by making redirects such as the ones I do. But I am admitted inclusionist.  Thank you for your time.  Rant over.  Mathiastck (talk) 11:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per YouWillBeAssimilated.Pcap ping  12:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

What Is The Name of This Book
The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Raymond Smullyan (links to redirect • [ history] • )

See below, It also redirects to nonsense. December21st2012Freak  Talk to me at ≈ 21:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Not useful at all. — Gavia immer (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per my nomination below. — The Man in Question (in question)  22:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: What is the name of this book? appears to be the title of a book that Raymond Smullyan wrote. -- Cat1205123 (talk) 02:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it's the title of a book he wrote and is mentioned in this page, the search engine results will list pages that mention the book. There's not substantive information about the book on the author's page, and in the event some other page on Wikipedia mentions something about this book, this redirect will prevent users from finding it, because it overrides the search engine. That's why this practice should generally be avoided. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 05:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree. While it isn't nonsense, having redirects like this hinders article creation. I used to get really confused about this when I was new here, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  14:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

What is wikipedia
The result of the discussion was Delete, with the exception of Who is responsible for these pages. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 18:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Wikipedia (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Criminology (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Computer (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Computer programming (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Chromatography (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Cash Cab (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Hand percussion (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Acacia pycnantha (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Definition of planet (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Annual ryegrass toxicity (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Spreadsheet (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Civil Support Team (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → James Bond (character) (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Entropy (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Connecticut Compromise (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Interlace (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Underwater (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Integer (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Interlace (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Interlace (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Integer (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Law (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Linear aeration (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Mental disorder (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Noun (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Out of School Care and Recreation (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Pan-Africanism (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Pitman arm (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Plot (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Programming language (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Radius (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Rhinoplasty (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Airbus A380 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → London (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Torture (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Trigonometry (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wiki (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Definition of planet (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Pollution (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Tide (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → St. Paul's College, Hong Kong (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → People's Republic of China (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Definitions of Palestine and Palestinian (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Black people (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Howard Stern (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wikipedia:Editorial oversight and control (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → List of Power Rangers (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Panchen Lama (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Suzuki Beane (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Colony collapse disorder (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Colony collapse disorder (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Fatigue (medical) (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Charcoal (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Diffuse sky radiation (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Diffuse sky radiation (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Storm (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Paper (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Sky+ (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → 1992 Cageless shark-diving expedition (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Cold War (1947–1953) (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Cold War (1947–1953) (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Meaning of life (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → War (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Volcano (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Black body (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Haganah (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Causes of World War II (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → RMS Titanic (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Charles La Trobe (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Harriet Tubman (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → John Pym (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Midnight Sun (novel) (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Guitar (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Potassium (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → LES (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Lorem ipsum (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Wiki (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Overhead lines (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Rules of chess (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Igneous rock (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Editing (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Aircraft flight mechanics (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Amerigo Vespuci (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Ötzi the Iceman (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Maya clothing (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Canoe (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → The Troubles (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Not a suitable Wikipedia entry. Wikipedia is not made to answer such questions, anyway. Silly, pointless, implausible, unhelpful, and very likely hindering. Misses the point of Wikipedia altogether. Furthermore, a search such as "What is South Africa?" turns up Wikipedia anyway. (P.S. This is, of course, NOT every "What is…" page, just ones that redirect to their answers. Also, no famous questions have been included in this nomination, such as Where do babies come from?, What is the meaning of life?, and even What's happening to my body and What is the matrix) — The Man in Question (in question)  20:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete all. We are not Wikianswers. Rockpock  e  t  21:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Could have been speedied under WP:A10. &mdash; RHaworth 21:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * They are not all recently created, and none of them are articles, so I don't really think they do qualify for A10. — The Man in Question (in question)  21:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all. per Rockpocket.  --SquidSK (1MC•log) 01:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all, per "The Man in Question" and Rockpocket. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 05:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - I can't really expand on Rockpocket's comment. A10 is supposed to be used for articles (and portals), hence the "A", Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  14:04, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all as unhelpful and unnecessary. Furthermore, they may be mildly damaging to the extent that they encourage the creation of article names that are not in keeping with usual naming conventions. Cnilep (talk) 22:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the above, though I'm amused by the idea of redirects that answer themselves, like How did America get its name? → Amerigo Vespuci.  Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 04:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How about Who is responsible for these pages → Wikipedia:Editorial oversight and control? That one's quite clever! --Jubilee♫ clipman  22:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears that Who is responsible for these pages was a genuine article created by Larry Sanger, of all people. Keep it for the historical value?  (see Glenfarclas below, too) --Jubilee♫ clipman  03:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - these are pointless. Mind you, Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong? → Who Put the Bomp (In the Bomp, Bomp, Bomp)?  ...Who was that man?  --Jubilee♫ clipman  22:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, on a more serious note "Why did Josh Kill?" was a major TV broadcast about Josh Phillips. Perhaps that could actually stay? --Jubilee♫ clipman  22:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * All right. I've removed it from the nomination. — the Man in Question (in question)  07:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Although  → Editorial oversight and control does look like it was someone's clever idea, as Jubileeclipman mentioned above, I checked into the page histories a little and found that it actually seems to be a natural artifact of the moving and subsequent development of a real antique created by Larry Sanger in March 2001 when Wikipedia was two months old.  It was kept in a mass nomination in April 2007.  Maybe its time has come, or maybe like other early Sanger pages/redirects (e.g., ) not.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 03:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

What is Love ?
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 02:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → What Is Love (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → What Is Love (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Useless space before question mark. Very little history; pages created as hoax/something very unencyclopedic (both began "Love is a rather vague word. We can talk about the way we love our job, the love of our parents, of our friends, … But here, we will mainly focus on the most common type of love, the love of a man for a woman."). No links; eight collective pageviews in December. Furthermore, putting a space before a punctuation mark will turn up the same result on the search page (for example, a search for How ? will have How? as the first suggestion). — The Man in Question (in question)  19:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Implausible search term. Rockpock  e  t  21:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I was about to say "The space was most likely added to get round the already existing redirect What Is Love?". But it turns out that this one is a good few years older than its correctly spaced counterpart. Anyway, I do think this one is plausible enough. I've seen this sort of typo in a few articles (I can't tell you the exact articles, you'll have to trust me). If you look at the page's traffic any time before December '09, it has some more views (eg. 42 in November, 76 in October). Or maybe I've done something wrong with the stats tool, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  14:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Spacing rules change according to countries, so different users will space differently. French for example adds man more spaces around punctuation, so non-US users may not necessarily punctuate correctly.Hrcolyer (talk) 17:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - We speak English not French. All varieties of English (AFAIK) join the last letter of the word with the mark of punctuation.  We should not pander to sloppy writing otherwise we should redirect I lOve Lucy to I Love Lucy etc.  The search pages give the correctly spaced punctuation every time as TMIQ has pointed out.  (I am a UK English speaker, BTW, and this punctuation rule is identical in both UKEng and USEng.)  --Jubilee♫ clipman  23:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as nominator per nom. — the Man in Question (in question)  16:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

'What's Shenmue'
The result of the discussion was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 05:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Shenmue (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Nonsense. December21st2012Freak  Talk to me at ≈ 19:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. We are not Wikianswers. Rockpock  e  t  21:10, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per my nomination above (unuseful, etc.) + needless apostrophes. — The Man in Question (in question)  22:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible, unhelpful, nonsensical. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 05:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless, made more useless by the introduction of apostrophes. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 07:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Batsy
The result of the discussion was No consensus ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 02:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Batman (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Nonsense. I can't see any indication Batman has been referred to in this way. No mention in the target article, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  15:55, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. — The Man in Question (in question)  01:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral in light of Tikiwont's comment. — the Man in Question (in question)  23:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, not a plausible or useful redirect.  Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 04:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The Joker somehere refers to Batman as Batsy as does e.g this TIME column..--Tikiwont (talk) 19:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - But doesn't this come under WP:RfD 7? Maybe it doesn't, I'm not sure... Lord Spongefrog,   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  11:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's used as the title of a Time article, which doesn't seem too obscure. — the Man in Question (in question)  19:00, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not as obscure as I first presumed, then. Well, feel free to close this, anyone passing by (I'd do it myself, but, well, I'm the nominator), Lord Spongefrog,   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  17:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'