Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 January 21

January 21
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 21, 2010

Bomb attack on danish embassy in Pakistan on june 2th 2008
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 22:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → 2008 Danish embassy bombing in Islamabad (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete, not a useful redirect, one case of misspelling, but there are many ways for misspelling this title. There are no wikilinks to the redirect. It was created by moving a misspelled current event substub. If we need any redirect, I think we need not this very special lower-case-june/2-th-combination. --Diwas (talk) 00:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, obscure search term, no evidence from page view statistics to show it is used anywhere significant as an inbound external link. --Taelus (talk) 13:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Wanessa Camargo (2st album)
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 22:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Wanessa Camargo (2nd album) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete, not a useful redirect, one case of misspelling, but there are many ways for misspelling this title. There are no wikilinks to the redirect. It was created by moving a misspelled article. Diwas (talk) 22:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 *  → José Antônio Moreira Filho, 2nd Baron of Ipanema (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → Costantino Mario Ruspoli, 4th Prince of Poggio Suasa (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete, not a useful redirect, one case of misspelling, but there are many ways for misspelling this title. There are no wikilinks to the redirect. It was created by moving a misspelled article.--Diwas (talk) 00:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

T:cite news
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 23:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Template:cite news (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:cite web (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:cite journal (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Template:cite book (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Cross-namespace redirects from article space, recently created, unused (and weren't ever used, as far as I'm aware), should be deleted. Amalthea 22:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Created these because I found typing out Template:cite news and the rest a big bother when I wanted to look at their documentation. I was fixing references for a country article with over a hundred references so it was useful to be able to look them up quickly. Namespace seemed to support a more straightforward shortcut to the template namespace so I created the redirects.  I created a discussion about it here: .  I find them useful.  If Wikipedia wants to adopt and standardize another format they can be changed later.  In the meantime I think they help more than not. Lambanog (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Shortcuts are good and well, but if they interfere with the actual encyclopedia, they need to be outstandingly useful. In this case, if only one editor appears to be using them, then I suggest to create bookmarks in your browser instead. Amalthea  15:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How do they interfere with the encyclopedia? I imagine they are not used that much because people aren't aware of them. Lambanog (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Or use with some scripts that could be added to your monobook or any skin you are using right now. In my three years in Wikipedia, I have never seen redirects for templates starting at "T". I always see template redirects as given by differences in language or it was formerly moved. For example, Template:Otheruses4 is redirected to Template:About. Template:Underconstruction, which appears to be longer that cite web, cite paper or cite book, has no shortcut T:Underconstruction or T:UC whatsoever. Then, this diff from WP:CROSS says that, basically, Template: namespace is named or created different from Wikipedia:, from File:, from User:, User talk:, Talk:, and so on to avoid confusion for the first place. Now, since only one editor uses it now, I agree with deleting it. Then, it is also justifiable to delete this: because only one editor uses it right now, it is almost uncertain to see that it can be into use in the future. -- JL 09 q?c 17:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Request to the developers to activate a namespace alias for templatespace... I suggest MSG, since that is the former name of templates, when they used to reside in articlespace. 76.66.192.206 (talk) 04:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Archstrone Fox Plaza
The result of the discussion was speedy delete WP:CSD. Amalthea 22:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Archstone Fox Plaza (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Request speedy delete....mis-spelled emerson7 15:25, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment: In the future, you can request speedy deletion yourself by adding db-redirtypo to the top of the redirect, there's no need for a discussion.  I've gone ahead and done that for you, and this can be closed whenever an admin comes around to delete it.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 20:56, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Cite blog
The result of the discussion was Keep ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 23:07, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Template:Cite web (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Blog is not a reliable source Quest for Truth (talk) 15:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep, there are acceptable forms of blog that may be used for sourcing. Some news websites name their editorial sections as "Blogs", such as the BBC for example, yet these are still kept to high professional standards and are reliable, and only BBC reporters can publish to these blogs after going through an approval process. See WP:V, specifically WP:SPS, and the third cite-note present on the page. --Taelus (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, you might also want to cite a blog to, for instance, support a direct quotation from the individual.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 21:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a common and baseless misconception that blogs cannot be reliable sources. The fact is that there are many blogs that are cited, and that should be cited, and this redirect serves to facilitate that. I created this redirect in the process of improving the William Gibson article – a BLP – to featured article status. That alone should allay any concerns about the appropriety of such content.  Skomorokh   22:13, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable people sometimes have blogs where they state their opinions, and these opinions are sometimes worth citing. --Cyber cobra (talk) 06:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete 99% of blogs fail WP:RS 99% of the time. On the odd exception that this is not the case there is no advantage of this particular redirect since it does nothing that cite web will not do if called directly.  However the mere presence of this redirect can be viewed as encouraging blog citations even when that cite is clearly inappropriate and "it's there" used as justification possibly with an appeal to WP:IAR to attempt to sidestep WP:RS.  In my view it's better to stop those problems before they arise. 13:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

P.E. Complex
The result of the discussion was Delete as unopposed nomination ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 23:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → The Complex (Valdosta, Georgia) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Suggest deletion of this redirect as linking an incredibly generic term to a very specific instance. Redirect or even disambiguation seems inappropriate simply because of the sheer number of possibilities. CrispMuncher (talk) 12:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

TC, Take Care
The result of the discussion was Delete. NW ( Talk ) 22:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Parting phrase (links to redirect • [ history] • )

I could see the logic in take care being a redirect, but not this one. <em style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#6600CC">NJA <em style="color:#63D1F4">(t/ <em style="color:#63D1F4">c)  09:49, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, not a very likely thing to type; the article was created as an unnecessary dictdef. TTFN, redirect, ta-ta for now.    Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 21:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Unlikely search query. People don't usually type both an abbreviation and its full expansion in the search box. --<b style="color:#3773A5;">Cyber</b> cobra (talk) 06:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: This redir's name is too unlikely to be searched for, I would think, for this to act as a plausible redirect. TheTito   Discuss  10:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

<span id="Mark Goddard (driver)">Mark Goddard (driver)
<div class="boilerplate mfd" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">The result of the discussion was deleted per WP:CSD Thryduulf (talk)
 * → Mark Goddard (racing driver) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete, as you can see it's redirecting to a redlink. Why is it there? --Falcadore (talk) 03:29, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Looks like an article was created at (driver), moved to (racing driver), and deleted on the ground, "biography unreferenced for over 3 years," but the redirect left behind was never cleaned up.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 07:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per db-G8. I have tagged it as such. (a redirect to a page which does not exist, has been deleted, or is itself currently tagged for speedy deletion.) --Taelus (talk) 08:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Metroplitan district council
<div class="boilerplate mfd" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 22:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Metropolitan borough (links to redirect • [ history] • )

delete, not a useful redirect, one case of misspelling, but there are many ways for misspelling this title. There are no wikilinks to the redirect. Diwas (talk) 03:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC) Note: The correct redirect Metropolitan district council is existing. --Diwas (talk) 03:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, not a particularly likely misspelling, no more so than omitting any other letter. Seems to get around 8 hits in an average month.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 08:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)