Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 January 3

January 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 3, 2010

Snih
The result of the discussion was No consensus ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 03:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Petr Eben (links to redirect • [ history] • )

This word ("Sníh" correctly) means "snow" in the Czech language. Composer Petr Eben created among his numerous and beautiful children song cycles also marginally notable song Sníh. User:Belugaboy535136 created an article, which was redirected to Eben's article. It's slightly misleading, given the meaning in Czech and the importance of the song. In my opinion, hardly anyone would connect this word with the composer. However, this is English project, perhaps your opinion will be different. Speedy deletion was declined, as it does not rely on a page that does not exist. Vejvančický (talk) 20:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Weak Keep. It does no harm, but I note that Sníh is a redlink (at time of writing), and this is not marked, which I am not too bothered about because first I am not sure if that applies to a redirect to a (hypothetical) redirect, or a redirect to a title that such a redirect would redirect to, or whether in English this title is generally written without the acccent anyway, which I'd suspect may be the case. I think the fact it means "Snow" in Czech is irrelevant, for all I know it may mean "egg" in Polish, but that does not mean it should redirect to "egg" any more than should redirect to "snow" or should not redirect to where it currently does (or anywhere else). Si Trew (talk) 00:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Archie Talley
The result of the discussion was Delete ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 23:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → User:Oberobic/Archie Talley (links to redirect • [ history] • )

User:Oberobic made an attempt to create Archie Talley by moving User:Oberobic/Archie Talley to Archie Talley. I moved the page back, so the latter can now be deleted. No articles link to this page. Fama Clamosa (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. No need for a CNR to a sandbox or draft. Cnilep (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * IAR speedy G6. -- Thin  boy  00  @062, i.e. 00:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ernest Bailey's Grammar School
The result of the discussion was Keep ~ Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 03:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Highfields School (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Deletion - unnessesary and orphaned Highfields (talk, contribs) 14:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, it is mentioned in the target page, and is a redirect from a former name and thus is a plausible search term. Additionally, remember that there are many uses for redirects other than being linked to internally, thus it being an orphan shouldn't be a reason for deletion. --Taelus (talk) 22:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I see your point, I can agree with that actually. - Highfields (talk, contribs) 16:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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Charles White's Secondary Modern
The result of the discussion was Retarget to Highfields School. I've also created Charles White Secondary Modern School. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 03:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Matlock, Derbyshire (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Deletion - unnessesary and orphaned Highfields (talk, contribs) 14:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Retarget to Highfields_School, as it is a former name of that establishment, and is mentioned in target section. --Taelus (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, I see your point and agree. However, I think that actually it needs redoing. The formal name was 'Charles White Secondary Modern School', what do you think? - Highfields (talk, contribs) 16:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like another plausible redirect to me. Both could be searched. --Taelus (talk) 11:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?
The result of the discussion was Keep. I've gone ahead and retargetted them both to the Assassination section, as it seems would be desired. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 02:55, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * → Thomas Becket (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Thomas Becket (links to redirect • [ history] • )

No mention in target article. Unlikely search term, even if it does bear some sort of connection to the target. — The Man in Question (in question)  01:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * Keep It's one variation of a famous quote by King Henry II about Becket, the article quotes it as "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest". Bradjamesbrown (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per the reasoning above, Lord Spongefrog,   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  19:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget to King Henry II (or a more specific section if possible) per above. -- Thin  boy  00  @063, i.e. 00:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest Henry II of England as the more specific section (it's quoted in the second sentence), but have no view overall whether it should be kept. Thinking, wrongly, it was Shakespeare, I tried some other Shakespearean quotations (or misquotiations) with mixed results from the search engine, so have no strong views on whether quotations should, in general, be allowed as redirects, and would probably make my mind up based on the page views. Si Trew (talk) 01:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: Page redirects really aren't for the purpose of associating uttered phrases with their authors. That's what the internal "search engine" is for. The search engine tells you what pages contain the words when there is no page titled "Who will rid me, etc." In the event this phrase is ever mentioned on another page, the redirect will override the search engine and prevent users from finding this out. YouWillBeAssimilated (talk) 03:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)