Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 June 23

June 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 23, 2010

Glaciers of Saint Helena and others



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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → Retreat of glaciers since 1850 (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * Also Glaciers of Somalia
 * Glaciers of Guinea-Bissau ‎
 * Glaciers of Guinea ‎
 * Glaciers of Ghana ‎
 * Glaciers of Burkina Faso ‎
 * Glaciers of Benin ‎
 * Glaciers of Madagascar ‎
 * Glaciers of Ethiopia ‎
 * Glaciers of Eritrea ‎
 * Glaciers of Djibouti ‎
 * Glaciers of Comoros ‎
 * Glaciers of São Tomé and Príncipe ‎
 * Glaciers of Rwanda ‎
 * Glaciers of the Republic of the Congo ‎
 * Glaciers of Equatorial Guinea ‎
 * Glaciers of Malawi ‎
 * Glaciers of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic ‎
 * Glaciers of Saint Helena ‎
 * Glaciers of Mayotte ‎
 * Glaciers of Swaziland ‎
 * Glaciers of Namibia ‎
 * Glaciers of Somalia ‎
 * Glaciers of Lesotho ‎
 * Glaciers of Botswana ‎
 * Glaciers of Zimbabwe ‎

This redirect serves no useful purpose. See Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_7. All were created by User:The Transhumanist on the 7th of December last year. Speedy based on previous MfD was declined. Verbal chat  19:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 *  Keep Glaciers of the Republic of the Congo. The Ruwenzori Range, on the Congo's border, has glaciers and is mentioned in the target. Delete the rest as potentailly misleading. Bridgeplayer (talk) 20:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The Ruwenzori Range does have glaciers, but it's on the border of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The Republic of the Congo, as far as I can tell, has no connection to glaciers. Sideways713 (talk) 10:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - I need to brush up on my Congos! Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Seulium‎



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → Seoul (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Busan (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Busan (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete all - none are mentioned in the target pages and thus would be confusing for a searcher. Also, I have not been able to source connections with the targets. The stats show negligible hits. The previously created Pusan is fine as a valid transcription. Please note, I have boldly retargeted Seulia. Bridgeplayer (talk) 19:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete I think someone's trying to introduce Latin-language redirects? (Well, I think, since I don't know latin) 76.66.195.196 (talk) 04:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

This time it's personal



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 * The result of the discussion was converted to disambiguation page. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → Jaws: The Revenge (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete - tagline for the movie, yes, but not (AFAICT) the original or predominant use of the phrase. TB (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Converted to disambiguation page. Bridgeplayer (talk) 18:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ta. I did nearly dab the page myself but got mired in the myriad of nearly-relevant entries.  Your version looks great. - TB (talk) 07:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Cricket World Cup 2000-2010



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted as WP:CSD A10 by Malik Shabazz. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → Cricket World Cup (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Extremely unlikely search term. Codf1977 (talk) 07:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as A10 - created as a cut and paste of Cricket World Cup; effectively a piece of vandalism. I have restored the tag since it is not a useful redirect - see here. Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As nom I support Bridgeplayer's replacement of CSD tag. Codf1977 (talk) 16:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Comment I removed the tag and made the redirect, in part to see if the creator was planning to make an article that matches the title. The redirect is harmless, if unlikely. But if there is a quick consensus to delete, that's fine with me.--agr (talk) 16:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Also note that the creator of this article has also created exact duplicates of Nuclear weapons of Pakistan (new) /Pakistan and weapons of mass destruction (existing) and Nuclear weapons of India (n) / India and weapons of mass destruction (e) both of which I have tagged as A10 as well. Mauler90  talk 23:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as unlikely and useless. Verbal chat  12:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

"Division"s redirecting to "University of Chicago"



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University of Chicago (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Hopeless generic redirect titles. Dividing these subject areas up into separate subfields have nothing to do with the University of Chicago.

76.66.195.196 (talk) 04:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete all per nom, too generic and misleading. I also don't see any hope of finding plausible retargets.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 05:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - these would be frustrating to any searcher looking for the generic subject or a division at another university. Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:42, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all Exactly. Anyone could search for "Division of the Biological Sciences" and get an entirely different university from the one they want. Chicago is certainly not the only one to study these terms. --Andromedabluesphere440 (talk) 15:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all there isn't a single clear target for any of these terms, and it's not like Chicago is the only university with a physical sciences division. Hut 8.5 19:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above; too general.  — fetch ·  comms   19:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak delete all: too generic, but I would not characterize them as &#8220;hopeless.&#8221; Bwrs (talk) 22:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

"Yield"s redirecting to "University"



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget Yield rate, delete rest.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 *  → University (links to redirect • [ history] • )

This has little or nothing to do with "University". Yield rates are something you find in production or chemistry, acceptance yields in production and quality control, and admission rates are also found in exclusive preschools, kindergartens, etc.

76.66.195.196 (talk) 04:41, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete all but Yield rate for now, and retarget that one to Yield. We could actually have a pretty good article on the topic of education admissions yield rates, and these should be left as redlinks to (theoretically) encourage that.  The nom is correct, too, that these issues also come up in non-university educations admissions, but I don't think we have articles on non-university admissions -- the only educational admissions article I see at all is University and college admissions.  These acceptance and yield concepts are not, however, discussed there, so it would make a bad retarget at present.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 05:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget Yield rate to Yield and Admission rate to University and college admissions and delete the rest. I accept that Admission rate also applies to pre-university education but there is sufficient of relevance in the proposed retarget to make it worthwhile. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

BEST KOREA



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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → North Korea (links to redirect • [ history] • )

A minor internet meme, not a likely search term. Most likely anyone who searches for this knows about the meme, so they already know what the target should be. On the other hand, anyone who doesn't know about the meme might think that we're actually implying that North Korea is the best Korea. The POV interpretation is a good reason not to have this. — Gavia immer (talk) 03:24, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Unless the meme is discussed at the target (which, thankfully, it isn't) the redirect is potentially misleading and does not provide helpful information.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 05:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Creating such a redirect is very much harmless and ought deserve an exception. Also remember... for every 50people that come to search for BEST KOREA, one of them will be new to Wikipedia. If there's even a chance that their haphazard visit to Wikipedia might lead them to reading other articles and from there, self-improvement, it is for the greater good to permit the redirect. Poshycat (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Glen's comments.-- &#x03C6; OnePt618Talk &#x03C6;  07:06, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think it is notable enough to warrant the redirect. Ex1le (talk) 13:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There should be a WP:SOPROVEIT for votes like this. Ironholds (talk) 13:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. No semblance of notability. Ironholds (talk) 13:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The redirect is not helpful, and implies a POV for anyone who is unfamiliar with the meme. And since when are memes like this notable on Wikipedia? The Thing  //  Talk  //  Contribs  13:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a 4chan meme based on this picture.&mdash;Perceval 13:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: WP:CANVASSING going on at 4chan /int/ at the moment, see this page. I recommend ignoring all IP and new users from now on. (P.S. - I am a Wikipedia user, but have not logged in to conceal my identity from 4channers. An admin with checkuser should be able to know who I am.) 220.245.209.35 (talk) 13:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Even if it is an internet meme, it should be kept because it might not be known to a user who would go look look it up.  In response to the comment above, there is nothing in the rules about being banned from getting others to support it on Wikipedia.  --Conor Fallon (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Obvious newfag is obvious. See WP:V, WP:RS, WP:N, WP:OR, WP:CANVASSING, WP:NOT. 220.245.209.35 (talk) 14:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment We don't always keep interent memes (see this example). --Andromedabluesphere440 (talk) 15:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - if the meme isn't mentioned on the main article, this is likely to be mistaken as POV. Claritas § 13:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pointless redirect. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 15:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. It can be recreated if something worthwhile is added to the target. At present it is simply confusing. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete this nonsense immediately, there's hardly anything to discuss here. Who thinks this is a suitable link for Wikipedia, apparently mistakes an encyclopedia for a tabloid newspaper, to say the least. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog |  woof!  10:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. There is no mention of the meme in the target article. Gobonobo  T C 10:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep . The amount of use on the internet and popular culture of the phrase best korea more than justifies this long overdue change.--Final Philosopher (talk) 23:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above delete arguments (and I found the link to here on 4chan by the way).  —  Soap  —  23:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep There is enough space for a redirect like this in wikipedia 188.96.114.251 (talk) 23:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC) — 188.96.114.251 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Some clown is spamming this link on 4chan to try and get people to support it. I say delete it just to demonstrate that that kind of behaviour shouldn't be tolerated. Besides, wikipedia is a serious place. No time for gooks. !MNc99 (talk) 23:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep May mark a important shift in politics shift of the grundnorm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.173.18 (talk) 00:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC) — 211.30.173.18 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: sage. gook shit, reported. (anyone who browses /int/ should understand this.) 220.245.209.35 (talk) 05:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete because everyone knows South Corea is Best Corea ^__^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.252.88 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 2010 June 24 — 72.66.252.88 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Hello, KIMCHI/!oz3qCOREA/whatever, aren't I surprised to see you here. You're not thread-spamming /int/ at the moment? That's a first. 220.245.209.35 (talk) 05:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt every permutation of the capitalization too. This is an easy move. Shadowjams (talk) 06:06, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt as per the arguments above. --  李博杰   | —Talk contribs email 06:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Help with HTML web programing



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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → HTML (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Originally created with just an external link to an HTML guide. An unnecessary redirect due to misspelling, and also inappropriate and misleading because HTML is not a help manual and Wikipedia does not provide programming help.  Glenfarclas  ( talk ) 01:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - I have had a good look around but I haven't been able to find a sound retarget for this redirect. The present target is misleading since it doesn't meet the needs of someone using this search term. Putting it humanely out of its misery seems the kindest solution. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment would it be apropos to redirect this to the HTML article on Wikiversity, or is that a faux pas?-- &#x03C6; OnePt618Talk &#x03C6;  07:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: See WP:CROSS.  I would oppose it in this case both because of the misspelling ("programing") and on the principle of WP:NOTTEXTBOOK:  there's no sense in encouraging cross-namespace redirects from "Help with..." or "How do I..." titles.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 14:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks, Glenfarclas! :-)-- &#x03C6; OnePt618Talk &#x03C6;   16:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have said "cross-project redirects" anyway -- surely more controversial and problematic than mere cross-namespace redirects!  Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 16:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete. Artifact. Misspelled. Unlikely - I think anyone looking for linking for HTML help should type this term in their search engine, or, if using Wikipedia, just type "HTML". There's a limit to how much we can help the user here. And anyway, does our HTML article actually provide much practical help for HTML programming? Herostratus (talk) 04:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

You carry oats
<div class="boilerplate mfd" style="background:#FFEEDD; margin-top:0.5em; padding:0 10px 0 10px; border:1px solid #888888;">


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 * The result of the discussion was delete all.  Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 02:42, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * → Eukaryote (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Eukaryote (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Eukaryote (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * → Eukaryote (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Silly redirect from an implausible search term. Also nominating You carry oats., I carry oats and I carry oats. for the same reason (all created by the same user). Robofish (talk) 00:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete all. The last three are particularly foolish, but even "You carry oats," which is sometimes given as a phonetic spelling, is not at all common enough to be plausible.  Except in certain unusual cases, we don't need redirects from this type of alternative name.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 00:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete all - The redirects are not needed since these phonetic versions are also used in conjunction with Eukaryote and any search would, clearly, be made on the prime term. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - We have a much bigger problem; take a look at these contributions. Some of the redirects are likely to be useful but very many are unnecessary. Deciding how to deal with them is not easy. If they were all brought here they would flood the project. Having said that, since they are unlikely to meet the criteria for speedy deletion, unilateral admin action would be considered to be out of process. Tricky! Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment took a stab at the most egregious with CSD, prod, and two RFDs above, and dabifying and retargetting. Geeze, the extreme Illinois and Korean bias is stupefying. 76.66.195.196 (talk) 05:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep You carry oats and delete the other three. You carry oats is a homophone of eukaryotes and is therefore a plausible search term for someone who has heard the word but has not seen it in print. Remember kids use wikipedia too. Gobonobo  T C 11:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep You carry oats and delete the other three, per Gobonobo. Herostratus (talk) 08:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)