Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 September 3

September 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 3, 2010

Talk:New Paltz, New York



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was moved Talk:New Paltz (town), New York to Talk:New Paltz, New York. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Talk:New Paltz, New York (disambiguation) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Basically, the article New Paltz (town), New York was moved to New Paltz, New York, with the old New Paltz, New York page becoming New Paltz, New York (disambiguation). However, Talk:New Paltz, New York became a redirect to the disambig's talk page, and the proper talk page -- Talk:New Paltz (town), New York -- was never moved. --Gyrobo (talk) 23:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * The talk page has been moved to Talk:New Paltz, New York over the redirect. Is that all this request entails? &mdash; Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 02:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty much, yes. Thank you. --Gyrobo (talk) 03:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Electronic hardcore



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. —  ξ xplicit  00:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Post-hardcore (links to redirect • [ history] • )

The article was AFD'd at Articles for deletion/Electronic hardcore. The result of the discussion was that the article was largely original research and to delete, not redirect. The same information (with the same sources) that was deemed original research and deleted as such is also at Post-hardcore. The section at Post-hardcore should be removed just as the article was, and the redirect should not exist either. Fezmar9 (talk) 22:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - This redirect is absolutely harmless. In fact, its absolutely appropriate - There was no proof of the existance of "electonic hardcore" as its own genre, or its own movement, and hence an article titled "electronic hardcore" would be original research. Listing genres that it originated from (with no references) was original research. Hence the page was deleted. Now the page serves as a redirect, however, and the article that it redirects to DOES NOT claim that this is a genre of music, does not make unreferenced statements, and does not contain original research. It merely informs us that many musicans blend two styles of music. It contains referenced statements regarding this blend's characteristics. Post-hardcore is a paragraph within a section entitled "Various trends." Is this not a trend of post-hardcore? It is, in fact. But thats all that it is. A redirect to a section that discusses this trend is not inappropriate at all. Its completely logical.--  ♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫    ...    (Talk)    23:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - The section at Post-hardcore is still original research as only a few of those sources are reliable. The description of the "trend" does not stem from articles about it, but rather individual reviews about different albums from different bands. A GoogleNews search turns up 13 hits since 1997, none of them seem to refer to any of the bands mentioned in this section. It's clearly not a phrase that's common enough to warrant even a redirect, provided there was even a plausible article to redirect to. According to the article that you wrote, "electronic hardcore" could be a mix between electronic music and either metalcore, post-hardcore or hardcore punk. In fact, it seems like more of these sources claim these bands are metalcore than the other two genres. At any rate, will each of these three genre articles require a section on "electronic hardcore" with its own redirect? Fezmar9 (talk) 02:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - heavily used name and useful information at the target. This is not the place to debate whether the content should be in the target; Talk:Post-hardcore is the venue for that. Whilst the target remains helpful to searchers the redirect should remain. Bridgeplayer (talk) 17:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yiffstar



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. —  ξ xplicit  00:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Furry fandom (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Also not mentioned in target; see Yerf discussion below. (What's more, the site's not called Yiffstar anymore.) Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete not in target. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. —  ξ xplicit  00:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Here& (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Is anyone ever gonna type that in down to the exact number of E's? I doubt it. Very unlikely search term. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I disambiguated the redirect to The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. --UncleDouggie (talk) 08:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - harmless, pops up when you type "heee" into the search box. No reason for deletion given. – xeno talk 19:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - per Xeno. Although, I wouldn't mind dropping 4 or 5 "e"s. It's a bit overkill for the purpose. --UncleDouggie (talk) 08:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Plausible search term - someone would simply enter the first part into the search box. Relevant target. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: Previous discussion a little over a year ago closed as "no consensus." ~ Ningauble (talk) 20:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yerf



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. —  ξ xplicit  00:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Furry fandom (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Not mentioned in target. See Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_16, a similar redirect that was deleted. To quote one delete !vote from that RFD, "not every website deserves a page or even a mention without secondary sources (per WP:WEB), and we're not a linkfarm. Like WP:EL, including every possible redirect for a website that somehow relates to the page topic is an invitation for spam and is not what wikipedia is about." Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:54, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete Not in target. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Excellent QBs on Opposite Day



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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted per WP:CSD. – xeno talk 20:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Derek Anderson (American football) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unlikely search term. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 17:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

You Gotta Unleash the Dragon



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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted. Not specific to the target. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Rex Grossman (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unlikely search term, not mentioned in target. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 17:34, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - 20,000+ hits for the redirect + the target . – xeno talk 20:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - 'Unleash the Dragon' is a generic American football term. Though there are a number of links between the formulation 'You Gotta Unleash the Dragon' and Rex Grossman none are in news sources and none, so far as I can see, in reliable editorial. I think this redirect is confusing. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Loudest Man in History
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retargeted to Vociferation. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 17:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Billy Mays (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unlikely search term. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 17:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - possibly speedily; could be construed as disparaging. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 20:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Switch to retarget (done). – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 15:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Probably a joke redirect, no evidence that the claim is true. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:53, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget, per Hut 8.5 Dabomb87 (talk) 19:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Vociferation, which discusses screaming and shouting records. <b style="color:#FF0000;">Hut 8.5</b> 18:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Great idea. I've boldly retargeted. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 15:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

<span id="Amberley Wild Brooks (Ireland)">Amberley Wild Brooks (Ireland)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by Explicit  as WP:CSD G7. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 10:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Amberley Wild Brooks (song) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Confusing and implausible redirect. I moved Amberley Wild Brooks (Ireland) to Amberley Wild Brooks (song), and the move left behind this confusing redirect. While the song was composed by John Ireland, putting "(Ireland)" at the end of the title implies that this article refers to a place in Ireland, not to a song by the composer Ireland. Snotty Wong  chat 15:29, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

<span id="Department of Electronics & Communication Engineering">Department of Electronics & Communication Engineering
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Re-targeted to Education and training of electrical and electronics engineers. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Anna University (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete. Because "Department of Electronics & Communication Engineering" is a generic name and almost all engineering universities have that department. This has nothing to do with Anna University specifically. Note: No incoming links. Akilan (talk) 12:01, 3 September 2010 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Prose content was merged to Madras Institute of Technology by IceCreamAntisocial on 2008-03-18. Our copyright licences require that the attribution of the content be retained as edit history.  Uncle G (talk) 13:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * But redirects from generic to particular are misleading. Perhaps an administrator would be willing to undertake a history merge? ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, it could be moved (without redirect) to a less misleading name, like "Madras Institute of Technology Department of Electronics & Communication Engineering" without loss of edit history. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Education and training of electrical and electronics engineers. This preserves the history whilst producing a potentially useful redirect. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Thats nice. :-) Akilan (talk) 17:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)