Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 September 5

September 5
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 5, 2010

Digital PABX



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Obscure synonym for a redirect with its target article. So far, nothing links it. I am also nominating: :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  09:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Digital pabx → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * Digital PBX → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * Digital pbx → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * Mpbx → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )
 * Hpbx → Private branch exchange (links to redirect • [ history] • )

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * PABX was in very common usage 20 years ago. Not so now perhaps.   But as an acronym,  the underlying meaning, which was originally "private automatic branch exchange" is not so obvious.   I don't see any reason to delete the redirect because there may be some people who go looking for information using this well-known acronym.Eregli bob (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep all - the absence of links is not relevant for a redirect. These are all entirely harmless and I see no valid grounds for deletion. Bridgeplayer (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep-Bit obscure, perhaps, but the possibility of someone searching for them certainly exists.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I spent some of my working life on PABX systems, and redirects like these are exactly the kind of things I'd try if I was searching for a Wikipedia article. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

N11n



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. —  ξ xplicit  16:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Normalization (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete. Is this leet? Never heard of it before, makes no sense to me. bd2412 T 03:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * "11" refers to the number of letters between the first "N" and last "n"; in other words, the "11" is a placeholder representing 11 dropped letters. So yeah, it is leet. I think we should de-leet it, too, because there are plenty of other words that could also be similarly abbreviated as "N11n". Stonemason89 (talk) 04:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment it's not leet, Mozilla-project calls it n11n, so it's tech-jargon. 76.66.197.151 (talk) 05:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Numeronym where it is explained. As the IP comments, this is not leet but is, in fact, a numeronym. This term is widely enough used to merit retention. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep as a redirect to Normalization. On the dab page, list N11n as a Numeronym under "See also". This follows the example of V12n, which had extensive discussion. If you find a better way, please update V12n as well. —UncleDouggie (talk) 16:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Having reviewed the highlighted discussion, there doesn't seem a great deal of enthusiasm for the present arrangement. I really don't like the solution for V12n because it requires the reader to click through an extra page to establish the meaning of numeronym; I still prefer my retarget for both. Bridgeplayer (talk) 18:49, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Many people know what v12n means and they expect to go to virtualization when they search for it, which is the purpose of a redirect. v12n does not mean numeronym. Digging through Numeronym for the link would be counter-productive. I agree that some people may be interested in finding out what this weird term means. I for one had never heard the term before I started editing the dab page. At one time we included v12n in the lead of virtualization, but many found this confusing of course. Another option I would support is to make v12n an article that explains what it is and has a prominent link to virtualization in the lead. The same goes for N11n of course. —UncleDouggie (talk) 04:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep See i18n, and L10n if you feel it needs to land on a disamb page. Mark Hurd (talk) 17:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Comrade Sandalio



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. —  ξ xplicit  16:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * → Stephen Schwartz (journalist) (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Delete; no reason given in the article for why we should have this. Stonemason89 (talk) 04:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The reason there's no reference to the pseudonym "Comrade Sandalio" is the Stephen Schwartz (journalist) article is primarily because Mr. Schwartz himself would prefer it not be there. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 07:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - the reason for this redirect is given in the edit summary and I have asked the creator for comment; always a good idea. This is a pseudonym for the target. The way forward is to add the name to the target, plenty of sources here, not to delete the redirect. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep Half the time, that's the only term I can remember him by. Surely I can't be the only one.  I'm sure others have come here intent on looking up "that Comrade Sandalio guy."  Its a moniker he's associated with (I must have read over a dozen articles in the National Review which referenced him in that manner, during the late 1990s). KevinOKeeffe (talk) 07:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)