Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 May 4

May 4
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 4, 2011

Merchant Prince II



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. A redlink may encourage someone to write an article. JohnCD (talk) 20:16, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → Merchant Prince (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Per this Help Desk thread, the Merchant Prince article now covers only the first game in the series. The link to Merchant Prince II needs to be a redlink until someone writes about the second game. John of Reading (talk) 20:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Overwrite with content or delete per nominator and WP:REDLINK. This was not the result of a merge, so history preservation isn't an issue, and it has several incomming article space links, so a redlink will likely be spotted. That someone is also taking an active interest is also a good indication. It gets lots of traffic, so a stub or article would be preferable though. Thryduulf (talk) 21:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete or expand with content. Thanks to John of Reading for bringing this here. I've placed a request at WikiProject Video games/Requests in the hopes someone will spot it there as well. Zakhalesh (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. The link is clearly misleading since the target no longer discusses the series. - Mgm|(talk) 11:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Franklin Lamb



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 * The result of the discussion was redirect has been replaced by an article. JohnCD (talk) 20:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → Fatah al-Islam (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Misleading redirect. Lamb is not involved in the group that is the subject of the redirect, he is only used as a source in the article.  nableezy  - 19:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 19:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete, misleading. He is quoted in the article as a researcher, but clearly does not have anything to do with the group itself.  Glenfarclas  ( talk ) 22:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Huang Yuxi



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:35, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Hwang Woo-suk (links to redirect • [ history] • )

This is oddly a Mandarin re-direct to a Korean name, and per WP:FORRED, we are advised not to create such re-directs. A potential historical, or even BLP, article (either is certainly possible) is a question for another time. Focus on the deletion discussion now – HXL's Roundtable  and  Record  16:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

2011 Qatari protests



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 * The result of the discussion was delete both. JohnCD (talk) 20:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests (links to redirect • [ history] • )

From the page before it was redirected: "As of March Qatar has thus far not experienced any major protests on ground". Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and as such this is a misleading redirect. Can easily be recreated if newsworthy protests happen, but it's not a guarantee. Closedmouth (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Also nominating this one, obviously:


 * → 2010–2011 Middle East and North Africa protests (links to redirect • [ history] • )

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete both as per nominator. proof - IQinn (talk) 16:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both. The target has no coverage of any protests in Qatar, and there doesn't seem to be scope to add one so the redirect is misleading. Thryduulf (talk) 17:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both as per nom - Sitush (talk) 17:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both as per above: we can't have redirects about topics that don't exist just to point to an article section that says, "Nothing much happened". Qwyrxian (talk) 23:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:AO-ise



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete by user request.  &mdash; Alison (Crazytales)  (talk) 19:53, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-self (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Completely unused. Seemingly redundant to PD-Self? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Mistakenly created, sorry. Should be deleted. Flying Saucer (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

2009 predictions



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 19:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → 2009 (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Now-useless temporal redirect. Closedmouth (talk) 12:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * This would be a good target for an article about a list of past predictions, in this case a list of predictions about a period encompassing 2009 made prior to that period. We have a list of predictions and Timeline of the future in forecasts and an entire Category:Futurology, so it's the sort of article I would expect us to have, and I have a vague recollection of reading such an article, but I can't find one. I'll ask at the help desk. Thryduulf (talk) 22:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. My enquiries and further searching led nowhere, so it seems my memory was playing tricks on me. Although I still think this should redirect somewhere I've been completely unable to find a suitable target, so I reluctantly must recommend deletion for the time being. Thryduulf (talk) 00:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, the current target is pointlessly overbroad and unhelpful, yet there seems to be no other suitable target. Thryduulf is right that theoretically a good article could be written on this topic; in that case, a redlink would be preferable.  Glenfarclas  ( talk ) 22:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Art-pd



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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-art (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to an existing template, PD-art is clearer as to the nature of the license. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * General comment, looking at the history of these license template redirects, most of them seem to date from before the era of drop-down license selection. In the context of people having to manually type the template name at the time of upload, most of these make perfect sense (e.g. "Art-pd" -> "PD-art" is a very logical redirect). What part they play in today's image uploading world I don't know - do people still manually type license templates at all and, if so, do redirects get bypassed by bot? Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Allrightsreleased



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-release (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template, PD-release is clearer as to the intent of the uploader IMO. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Template:All rights released



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-release (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template, PD-Release makes more sense as it says the item is PD. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Template:PD USGov



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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Seemingly unused redirect to existing template? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - Concur with nominator. --Kumioko (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Pd-usgov



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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Seemingly unused redirect to existing template? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - Concur with nominator. --Kumioko (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Pd-us-gov



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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Seemingly unused redirect to existing template? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - Concur with nominator. --Kumioko (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Pd-gov



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 19:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete many government copyright issues, should not redirect to us-specific template. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:PD-USgov



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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Possibly unused redirect to existing template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. (I just typed this one--and I'm an experienced editor--and was terribly puzzled when the RFD notice came up.) The only reason I can imagine that this is not in use is that they have been repaired by editors or bots. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:PD-usgov



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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:USGov-PD
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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:PD-USGOV
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 * The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Keep - helps editors type correct licenses. Why would we delete these variants? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:USAF-AUX
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov-Military-Civil Air Patrol (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - Concur with nominator. --Kumioko (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Usgov
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete it could easily be a redirect for the Wikiproject template. 64.229.100.153 (talk) 05:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Usgovt
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:52, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:PD-USGov (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused redirect to existing template Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete it more logically should be a redirect to the Wikiproject template. 64.229.100.153 (talk) 05:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:VAGov
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * → Template:Di-no license (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Unused template redirection to existing no license tag Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Battle of the Sequels 2
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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → 2007 in film (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Refers to a section that was repeatedly removed (and reinserted by vandals) in 2007. There is currently no reference to it in the article, and hasn't been for several years. No incoming links, almost zero traffic. Closedmouth (talk) 09:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'

Cronulla 2230
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 00:33, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → 2005 Cronulla riots (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Article deleted at AFD, section removed from article, no incoming links, almost zero traffic. Closedmouth (talk) 08:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Delete - useless, no mention in target article. JohnCD (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Racial Disturbance
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Race riot. JohnCD (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → 2005 Cronulla riots (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Seems this film was never made, or was just a student project or something. Can't find a single reference to it outside old Wikipedia archives. Closedmouth (talk) 08:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * retarget to the generic Race riot, for which it is a useful search term. Thryduulf (talk) 09:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Race riot per Thryduulf.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Bug River
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 * The result of the discussion was Revert. Ruslik_ Zero 18:23, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * → Western Bug (links to redirect • [ history] • )

Retarget/Revert to the version prior to 2011 April 30, when it targetted Bug river. The user who retargetted the redirect used a "minor" edit note, when this is in fact a major edit. "Bug river" seems to be going for a snow-keep, at the AfD that user started on it. According to that AfD, "Western Bug" is not clearly primary, and indeed "Southern Bug" seems primary if looking at Encyclopedia Britannica. So this should be restored as a dab page redirect. It has an incorrect redirect template if it points to Western Bug. 64.229.100.153 (talk) 06:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC) 'The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.'
 * Retarget/Revert per 64.229.110.153. There would need to be a very good case for this to point to somewhere other than Bug river and one has not been made. Thryduulf (talk) 09:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If no-one's arguing that one of the rivers is primary over the other, then yes (though I would delete this and move the dab page from Bug river to here). However, all the links will need to be repaired before the change is made.--Kotniski (talk) 16:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)