Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 October 16

October 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 16, 2011

Donna Love



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 13:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → List of Another World characters (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This fictional character was of Another World until its cancellation. Then she appeared in As the World Turns. Prior to redirection, the article was very short. Therefore, I wonder if this page could be deleted and then re-created, so no more unreasonable re-creation with blank "edit summary". --Gh87 (talk) 23:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - I confess to some puzzlement over this nomination. This was an article that was redirected by the nominator then immediately brought here. If this character is not notable then this redirect is both helpful and normal; if this character is notable then simply revert the redirect and expand the article. Either way I see no policy basis for deletion. Bridgeplayer (talk) 00:35, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I confess: I rushed my own thoughts about this nomination. Actually, I nominated this redirect because she appeared in both shows.  Either the currently targetted page or List of As the World Turns characters; unfortunately, the other could not briefly summarize every character of ATWT.  Still, I'm having a "tale of two pages".  As for deletion, deletion becomes unsuccessful if the previously-deleted page has become a redirect and the history logs have been recovered under WP:REFUND; I prefer delete without voting for it.  As for notability, she is non-notable for a casual person, such as me.  There is no indication for her notability from soap dedicators.  No recent news has covered this fictional character.  The back catalogue of past news from soap-oriented periodicals have not been produced into microforms, to my knowledge, and archived in libraries.  --Gh87 (talk) 01:00, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - The redirect is useful and correct as is. If the nominator wants to purge the history, they need to take that up in a more appropriate forum. — m a k o ๛  23:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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File:Manly Colors (2009-).svg



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 17:39, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → File:Manly Marlins colours (2009-).svg (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Now unused redirect, that was created during a page move process. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete - This is uncontroversial and was created, in error, right before being listed. This should just be speedied with a WP:CSD (i.e., ). — m a k o  ๛  22:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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File:Manly colours.svg



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 19:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → File:Manly Sea Eagles colours.svg (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Intermediate page move no longer in general use as far as I can tell Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete - This is uncontroversial and was created, in error, right before being listed. This should just be speedied with a WP:CSD (i.e., ). — m a k o  ๛  22:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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File:Manly Colors (1950-2007).svg



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 19:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → File:Manly Sea Eagles colours.svg (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Intermediate page move, which was an incorrect retitle. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is uncontroversial and was created, in error, right before being listed. This should just be speedied with a WP:CSD (i.e., ). — m a k o  ๛  18:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
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MOS:STABILITY



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Salvio  Let's talk about it! 10:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → Manual of Style (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Section "Stability of articles" is removed from Manual of Style. Hence this redirect is no longer good. Fleet Command (talk) 19:40, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. That being so I can see no reason to keep it. I only created it as it was, oddly, a redlink shortcut.-- SabreBD  (talk)  19:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. The text that was pointed to by the shortcut in question has been moved to the lead section of the page, but is essentially the same even now. It is based on an ArbCom decision, so it's unlikely to just go away. There is no reason to delete the redirect, which has some links from discussions to it. There is also a WP:STABILITY shortcut going to the same place. Have mörser, will travel (talk) 01:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am afraid the current version of the page does not have that part, even in its lead section. Fleet Command (talk) 13:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure it does: Where more than one style is acceptable, editors should not change an article from one of those styles to another without a substantial reason. Revert-warring over optional styles is unacceptable.[1] If discussion cannot determine which style to use in an article, defer to the style used by the first major contributor. You'll see there's an anchor right above that passage if you click "edit". Have mörser, will travel (talk) 18:27, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh! That was elusive. Well, what can I say? Fleet Command (talk) 16:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is a useful redirect to the relevant subsection of the article that actually discusses stability. It's not used much but it is used. We don't need to have a named section for a redirect to be useful. This one seems both useful and used. — m a k o ๛  22:58, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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Dr. Charles R. Watson



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy closed as no immediate action requested. If the Prodded target is deleted then the deleting admin should delete incoming redirects. If this one gets missed then it can be tagged as WP:CSD G8. NAC. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → Charles R. Watson (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nominated deletion of Charles R. Watson since it is duplicate of Charles A. Watson. Please delete redirect after Charles R. Watson is deleted. No incoming links to redirect. --GoingBatty (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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History of the Yuan Dynasty



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Yuan Dynasty. Salvio  Let's talk about it! 10:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * → History of Yuan (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

The redirect is to a book. While History of Yuan is a history of the Yuan Dynasty, it's not not the same thing. Per History of the Han Dynasty and Ming and Song equivalents, History of the Yuan Dynasty should be a standalone article on... the history of the dynasty.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  11:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Yuan Dynasty with a hatnote for the book. The suggested retarget has the information that a reader is likely to be looking for. Whether there is enough material to break out a separate article is a decision for the editors of that page and is outwith this discussion. Bridgeplayer (talk) 14:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Yuan Dynasty; seems a rather obvious thing to do. Have mörser, will travel (talk) 23:32, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Regarget to Yuan Dynasty - Seems like a very reasonable suggestion. Maybe we should have an article on the topic (and I hope we do) but we already have the start of one in that article and it seems best to point there until it grows up into its own standalone article. — m a k o ๛  23:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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