Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 October 24

October 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 24, 2011

East Virginia



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Disambiguate. DrKiernan (talk) 19:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * → Virginia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Retarget to Shoe (comic strip). I made this change myself back in August, and it was just reverted. As East Virginia is the fictional state that serves as the setting for the comic strip, it's reasonable to expect people searching for this term to be looking for information on the strip's setting. The redirect to Virginia strikes me as less ideal; on the off chance someone looks for information on the eastern part of the state of Virginia, they can easily find the Virginia article once they find that East Virginia isn't what they're looking for. The same can't be said of the converse. Powers T 23:47, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Tidewater region of Virginia. It is important that we don't surprise readers and I think that anyone looking for the geographic area would be astonished to find themselves in a comic strip article! I also think that anyone looking for the fictional locale would be more likely to search on 'Treetops'. To facilitate this I have created a Treetops, East Virginia redirect. If thought necessary a navigational hatnote can be placed on my suggested retarget. Bridgeplayer (talk) 02:20, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate since Virginia is referred to as "East Virginia" by some people since it is east of West Virginia (also "Old Virginia", since there's a "New" Virginia in the form of "West Virginia") 65.94.77.11 (talk) 08:25, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between Virginia (per 65.94.77.11), Tidewater region of Virginia (per Bridgeplayer), Shoe (comic strip) (per LtPowers) and Eastern Shore of Virginia. They're all possible targets and I see no clear evidence for any of them being primary. If there is consensus for this option then a new redirect from Eastern Virginia should be targeted at the dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate between Tidewater region of Virginia, Shoe (comic strip), and Eastern Shore of Virginia. Sorry, I haven't sourced the use of 'Virginia' in this context and I don't see someone searching on 'East Virginia' wanting 'Virginia. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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George Bancroft Davis



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 10:48, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * → George Bancroft (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. This article was created in 2009 as a content fork about George Bancroft, a United States Secretary of the Navy in the 19th Century. Only recently it was converted into a redirect when the duplication was discovered. The title is inexplicable; there certainly has never been a Secretary of the Navy by the name "George Bancroft Davis", and AFAICT there has never been anyone notable by this name. There is no reason for anyone ever to search the name, and if anyone ever comes across this redirect by accident its presence would be confusing. R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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Prahoc



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to prahok. Salvio  Let's talk about it! 09:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)


 * → Padaek (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Prahoc is a variation of spelling for prahok and not another name for padaek, so the redirect should target prahok. Search results show that recipes match the description of prahok, not padaek. Kat (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom and tag with . Thryduulf (talk) 18:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to prahok per nom.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
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Maximal Innovative Intelligence



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Microsoft Office shared tools. Fleet Command (talk) 09:20, 25 October 2011


 * → Microsoft Outlook (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I do not see why should "Maximal Innovative Intelligence" be redirected to "Microsoft Outlook". They do not seem to have anything in common. Fleet Command (talk) 07:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Microsoft Office shared tools. Maximal Innovate Intelligence was a software company that had a data analysis product called "Max". Microsoft bought the company in 2001 and rebranded the product "Microsoft Data Analyzer 2002". We have a short section about that product at Microsoft Office shared tools, which contains everything we have to say about the company (except a list entry, as "Maximal Intelligence", at List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft) so it seems like the best place to target this as it is getting traffic. I can see no connection with Microsoft Outlook, the text at the proposed target suggests that the software might have been integrated with Microsoft Excel, but this is just my inference and supposition and could be completely wrong. Thryduulf (talk) 19:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Microsoft Office shared tools as that has more information about Maximal Innovative Intelligence than anywhere else on here, or create a new article for the company if there is enough "interesting" information about it. Kat (talk) 20:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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Kapoor Family (film)



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 18:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * → Kapoor family (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This redirects to the Indian Kapoor family, but the title indicates a film titled Kapoor Family. Therefore, I believe it should be deleted. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 06:38, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, this is the result of a page move in October 2006, but it existed at it the redirect title for several months prior to that. We normally keep redirects following page moves unless they are harmful. There are some incoming internal links and the stats for August suggest at least one external link that we shouldn't break. The redirect traffic is tailing off, but slowly and it's still looking to be at least 1000 hits in October which is several orders of magnitude above what we usually regard as a lot of traffic for a redirect. Deleting the redirect would therefore be actively harmful. Keeping it would run a small risk of confusion about the existence of a film about the family, but this is very insignificant compared to the harm of deleting. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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