Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 April 3

April 3
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 3, 2012

C++ Middleware Writer



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 12:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * → C++ (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete Target not sensible. The target does not cover the topic of the redirect at all. I can think of no sensible alternative target article. Cyber cobra (talk) 21:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Fascist albania



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 12:29, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * → Albanian Kingdom (1939–1943) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Not currently in use; no reason for it to exist except to enable pov-pushing... bobrayner (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The redirect points to an article describing the government of Albania under effective Italian control during WWII. Italy was unashamedly a fascist regime at that time.  It does not seem implausible to describe Albania during that time as 'fascist'.  In fact, the target article explicitly says "the country fascisticized with the establishment of an Albanian Fascist Party and its attendant organizations, modelled after the Italian prototype." Targetting this redirect to the current Albanian administration would be POV-pushing.  Targeted to the current historical article, on the other hand, it looks to me like a statement of simple fact. Note, however, that even if it were a POV redirect, that is an acceptable use of redirects.  Part of the proper application of WP:NPOV is to help readers who look under pejorative titles to find the correct non-pejorative title.  Redirects make that possible.  Keep.  Rossami (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep its not in use as you just removed it from all uses, without agreement. pov push. Fascist Albania is explanatory term, same as Fascist Croatia, Fascist Italy, Fascist Spain... -- WhiteWriterspeaks 20:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:NPOV doesn't apply to redirects, so any discussion of that policy's applicability is irrelevant. Whether its use in article space would constitute POV-pushing is a debate to be had elsewhere, but I think "Fascist Albania" is a plausible search term and this target is appropriate. – hysteria18 (talk) 01:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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2014 Asia Cup



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 12:31, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * → Asia Cup (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Target page does not mention anything about the 2014 Asia Cup, and does not even contain the word "2014". I consider deleting this redirect or changing the target if there is any article giving a brief description of the tournament. jfd34 ( talk ) 06:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Given the choice between a redirect that violates WP:CRYSTALBALL and an article that violates it, the redirect is less bad. Salting would be counter-productive since presumably an article will become appropriate in the future.  (It is not yet appropriate for this particular article in my opinion.  That opinion also rules out red-linking the page for now.)  The consensus, therefore, has been that redirects of these future events to a parent page are an acceptable, even sometimes a preferred solution for getting rid of speculative content. In this case, the redirect was created as a redirect, not as an overwrite of prohibited content and I do wish that editors would do something else with their time.  Once created, however, the redirects are relatively harmless.  Keep because there is no reason to delete.  Rossami (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rossami and because this contains at least some, if not all, of the information I'd be looking for if I were to search for "2014 Asia Cup", and will probably contain more as more information becomes available. – hysteria18 (talk) 15:52, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: If kept, add to Category:Redirects with possibilities. -- jfd34  ( talk ) 10:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
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