Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 August 26

August 26
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 26, 2012

Acha (actress)



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Keep as likely and useful to some. Tikiwont (talk) 18:54, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Acha Septriasa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unlikely search term (specific inclusion of the (actress) DAB component). I listed the target itself at the Acha DAB page, so anyone searching for "Acha" would find it there. DMacks (talk) 19:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - unlikely search term. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:14, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - useful navigatin aid, likely search term, no benefit to deleting this redirect. Wily D 09:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - very likely search term for people looking for exactly this target article. The search term is not ambiguous so should not unnecessarily direct readers to a dab page, especially via a search results page that will not even be seen by those using some search methods. Thryduulf (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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Across the River



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Secret World Live. Merging optional. Tikiwont (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Peter Gabriel (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

From Peter gabriel (discography) to Peter Gabriel doesn't make sense. If this song deserves an article there should be a red link and not a redirect! TINY MARK  14:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge (from history) and redirect to Secret World Live, an album which already has a little information about this song. Siuenti (talk) 21:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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Agama (mythology)



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Agama. Tikiwont (talk) 18:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Āgama (Hinduism) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Jain/Buddhist agamas also discuss mythology. It is best to delete this orphan than convert into a disambig. Redtigerxyz Talk 13:53, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Agama and tag as a R from unnecessary disambiguation. Siuenti (talk) 21:36, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Siuenti, but tag as, as disambiguation is necessary but "mythology" isn't sufficient to distinguish between the different mythologies. Thryduulf (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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Battlefield ninjas



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete as created with reference to a game, with the alternative not necessarily helpful. Tikiwont (talk) 18:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Battlefield 2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Invalid search term. Originally created as a spam redirect, until it was redirected to Battlefield 2. Apparently it's a mod or modding community, so we have no use for it. — Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 08:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete some ninjas appeared on Japanese battlefields, so this redirect is misleading. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 09:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually they did not. Ninja were assassins who did not take part in warfare.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 10:49, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * From our article on ninja, The Kōga ninja are said to have played a role in the later Battle of Sekigahara (1600), where several hundred Kōga assisted soldiers under Torii Mototada in the defence of Fushimi Castle, so the field of battle being Fushimi Castle, which had ninjas... 76.65.128.252 (talk) 12:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - invalid search term. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to ninja article to the section indicated by IP 76. Ego White Tray (talk) 05:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's still a valid search term. Sure, we have information that one group of ninja appeared on battlefields, but I don't think that people are going to be looking that up in our search system.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 20:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer deletion, or failing that a conversion to a list of battles where ninjas appeared. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 03:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Ned Baker



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:22, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Metasyntactic variable (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Deletion. "Ned Baker" is not mentioned in the target article. Searching on Google for "ned baker" "Metasyntactic variable" only seems to show results that were sourced from Wikipedia. 69.210.143.203 (talk) 05:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice. There has been much boldness associated with this title over the years. It was created in 2003 as an article that was duplicative of the Metasyntactic variable topic, but the name was not mentioned in the article until it was (apparently independently) added in February 2004. The Ned Baker article remained unchanged, other than the addition of an interwiki link to the Hebrew Wikipedia in June 2004, until it was the subject of a Votes for Deletion (the then equivalent of today's AfD) nomination in September 2005. 45 minutes after the nomination, with no comments received, user:Robchurch boldly closed the discussion as "redirect to Metasyntactic variable" and redirected the page accordingly. Four and a half years later, in January 2008, user:Triona boldly removed all the examples from the target article "as this article has turned into an example farm." (and it had), restoring "the most common examples for illustrative purposes" with their next edit . "Ned Baker" did not make the cut. If it were to be added to Wikipedia today, it would probably fit better at the Placeholder name article, but afaict it has never been in that article and retargetting there would be no better than the current target. I am recommending deletion because, like the nominator, I have been completely unable to verify the name's use as a placeholder outside of material originating at Wikipedia. Given the apparently independent additions, my suspicion is that this is used, just not widely enough to have made it into (many) reliable sources (the nature of the topic means many such words and names are used but only a few will make it into print), so this deletion should be without prejudice to reinstatement should verification be found and the name added to an article. Thryduulf (talk) 09:20, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, interesting history though. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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