Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 December 24

December 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 24, 2012

ProveIt



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Prove It!. Ruslik_ Zero 18:23, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → MediaWiki:Gadget-ProveIt (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Right, so this has been declined for CSD-R2 3 times, all by the same user. This redirect should not exist. CSD-R2 explicitly says "any other namespace except the Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help: and Portal: namespaces." Since this is a redirect to a MediaWiki: namespace, it qualifies for CSD.

Aside from that, users should not be redirected to the MediaWiki namespace, especially a one-line stub about a gadget.

Therefore, I feel this redirect should be deleted. Sorry if I messed things up, this is the first time I've filed a RfD. ~ Matthewrbowker  Make a comment! 21:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * retarget to Prove It! as a . That page links to the tool in a self-referential hatnote so it is still easily accessible. Thryduulf (talk) 22:04, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * retarget per Trhyduuf. -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


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FreeDOS 32



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → FreeDOS (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Useless redirect, as the target page [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FreeDOS&diff=225920380&oldid=225920160 no longer mentions] FreeDOS-32, and for a good reason. Keφr 18:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Procedural keep no valid reason given for delete. -—Kvng 21:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * FreeDOS-32 is a distinct, though not notable project (as determined in a discussion; I doubt any new secondary sources appeared since then), and redirecting to an article which contains no information about it definitely makes no sense, especially since it implies they are the same thing. That falls under criterion 5, I think. Keφr 22:00, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Thanks for the background information. What I gather is that the intended target for this redirect, FreeDOS-32 has been deleted. The redirect should also be deleted or whatever normally happens to redirects when their target is deleted. I don't think this redirect should continue to point to FreeDOS as there does not appear to be a good case for reviving the material as part of FreeDOS. -—Kvng 00:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


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Sergio Herman



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete per WP:REDLINK. Ruslik_ Zero 18:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → Oud Sluis (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Misleading redirect, preventing the creation of an article about this head chef whose restaurant is awarded 3 (!) Michelin stars. The Banner talk 14:20, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Make the article - if you want to write an article, you don't need permission to replace the redirect with an article. If no one makes an article by the time this discussion ends, delete to encourage this. Ego White Tray (talk) 17:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Make the article per EWT. This course of action does not require deletion and there is no reason given why the old history should be deleted. I've got no objection to a deletion per WP:REDLINK, but only as a second preference. Thryduulf (talk) 18:06, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


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B. Shaw



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 * The result of the discussion was Retarget to Shaw (name). Ruslik_ Zero 18:33, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → Charlie Shaw (footballer born 1862) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Page was originally created as "B. Shaw", presumably due to errors/omissions in source material. Now that the player has been correctly identified and moved to the correct title (Charlie Shaw (footballer born 1862)), retaining the redirect would seem to do more harm (confusion) than good. Jameboy (talk) 12:52, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Shaw (name), which list several B. Shaws. I assume you meant to nominate both the article and the talk page. Ego White Tray (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Retarget B. Shaw to Shaw (name) per EWT. The talk page should have the redirect replaced with the record of this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 18:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Apologies, I didn't realise I had to explicitly nominate the talk page as well, but I did mean both, yes. Retargetting to the surname page sounds sensible. --Jameboy (talk) 18:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The normal course of action is just to nominate the article/project page as talk pages get sorted out as standard (e.g. if a redirect is deleted it's talk page gets deleted per WP:CSD). Thryduulf (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


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Weeaboo



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 * The result of the discussion was Retraget to Japanophile. Ruslik_ Zero 18:38, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → Wordfilter (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Redirected to a section consisting of unsourced OR. I removed the section since it added nothing to the article and didn't seem relevant. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Japanophile or otaku -- 70.24.245.172 (talk) 20:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Neither of which mentions "weeaboo", thus making it pointless. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:47, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Not pointless, since WP:NOTDIC, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, we do not list every synonym on the article pages, even if many synonyms get created as redirects. Since "weeaboo" is a derogatory synonym for a Japanophile / otaku-culture Japanophile, it should redirect there as a valid search term. (boobs redirects to breast even though that spelling doesn't appear on that page) -- 70.24.247.127 (talk) 05:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * We could also retarget to The Perry Bible Fellowship, a former target and the comic strip that coined the word. It isn't mentioned there either, though. --BDD (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: While there is broad agreement for a retargetting there is clearly no consensus about what the new target should be.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)




 * "Weeaboo" and "Wapanese" are not just derogatory synonyms for Japanophile; I actually hear them used in much the same way as "wigger" is used, so it should probably be associated with that constellation of pages. A lot of times the people who get called this are the people who claim to be "transracial" or who try to act 24/7 the way they think Japanese people do.  Yael Tiferet (talk) 20:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:TUF



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 * The result of the discussion was Retraget to user:PortlandOregon97217/The Ultimate Fighter. Ruslik_ Zero 18:46, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → User:PortlandOregon97217 (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Per WP:SHORTCUT, it is not appropriate to hijack a WP namespace redirect for the purposes of pushing a minority PoV that is contradicted by the established consensus at WP:MMANOT. Author is pushing for a minority PoV with the inherent notability that a WP namespace link gives. After not getting support for their viewpoint at the MMA wikiproject talk page they have decided to link to this redirect to shut down all opposition to their viewpoint. Hasteur (talk) 00:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment So I just followed the instructions on WP:SASC to make a redirect to an essay I wrote. I do not say that it is correct because it is it is a redirect from a WP namespace. It is the same as me just writing WP:TUF and inserting my name as the url. If you check the afd logs for fighters like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Julian_Lane_(fighter) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mike_Ricci_(fighter) you will see people other than myself disagreeing with you. You are also on a WP:Witchhunt] over at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/North_American_Allied_Fight_Series. You have also accused me of having a COI simply because I had 1 measly amatuer fight in a city you have probably never heard of (Pasco). So I'm not overly concerned about the fate of the redirect. Because the essay will remain. But I do think you are overreacting and trying to override my logic with your bureaucratic levers. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 01:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep, but move the essay to a subpage (e.g. user:PortlandOregon97217/The Ultimate Fighter), tag as an essay and point the shortcut there. Essays disagreeing with the consensus are fine, and essays, even in userspace, are perfectly acceptable targets for WP: redirects (see also the comments at Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 December 18). Of course the essay must not be used to misrepresent consensus, but both the ability to misrepresent and actually doing so are entirely independent of having a shortcut. Thryduulf (talk) 10:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and retarget per Thryduulf. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Roger. Now I just have to figure out how to do that. It might take a few days for me to find the free-time. I'm definitely on it tho, thank you! PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 04:15, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It's easy. See WP:MOVE for instructions. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I did it right. How do I add back the little #TUF thing to the essay? PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 04:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't get it right (you just created a redirect to your user page from User:TUF), but I've fixed it for you. Your single sentence of personal text remains at user:PortlandOregon97217 (your user page), to this I've added a link to the essay. I moved the essay to user:PortlandOregon97217/The Ultimate Fighter (a user subpage). I've updated the target of the WP:TUF shortcut so it links to the new location (I've also re-added the RfD notice which should remain while this discussion is open). Finally, I have re-added the shortcut box to the essay page. If you want me to explain any of this, including how I did it, then leave me a message at my talk page asking me (it might take me a day or two to respond, but I will). Thryduulf (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:Forest Gump



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 18:40, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * → Village pump (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Random redirect created in 2005 by an IP, should be deleted. FallingGravity (talk) 23:27, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Not plausible. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


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