Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 May 22

May 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 22, 2012

William Peace University



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 15:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * → Peace College (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This school has changed its name and has begun using the new name on its website. The time has come to delete this redirect to make way for a move of Peace College to William Peace University RadioFan (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Clarification: The institution has begun sporadically using the new name on its website. Most of the site, including the footer on every page, still says "Pace College."  There's no rush to make this change, particularly when the institution itself hasn't really made the change. ElKevbo (talk) 22:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The article title should reflect the official title. The institution has made the change.  The local media using the new name as is the administration in press releases .  While the old name does persist in some spots on the university website, that will change in time.  There is no need to wait until all traces of the old name have been purged from the website.  The very first words on the website are the new name after all.--RadioFan (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This should be a Requested moves debate, not an RfD discussion. Regardless of which title is chosen by the community, neither of you have yet presented a reason to permanently delete the other title as redirect.  Rossami (talk) 22:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't made a case to delete any redirects because I don't think any should. In this period of transition it seems like a good idea to have a redirect from the soon-to-be/new/kind-of-already-in-use name to the old/still-in-use name. ElKevbo (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Wrong fourm-As Rossami said above, this belongs at Requested moves, not RfD. --Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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Tim Maroney



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. Ruslik_ Zero 18:47, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * → Usenet celebrity (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Should be deleted; originally, there was an article about my friend Tim; it was redirected to Usenet celebrity; but there's nothing in that article about him, and there's only one mainspace link to Tim's article. --jpgordon:==( o ) 21:23, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep to preserve the attribution history (a requirement of GFDL and CC-BY-SA). The content of this page was merged to the target page in Jan 2008 and remained there until September when it was removed as part of a larger purge of content.  I see no discussion or debate to substantiate that purge and while some of the reasons given (lack of sources) are true, others (the BLP accusations) are less defensible.  The edit history shows that a number of other edits made by that same user were reversed.  I do not know why the content on Mr Maroney was not restored (and do not have the content knowledge to know whether that would be appropriate) but it seems plausible to me that someone might someday restore that content.  If/when they do, we will need the pagehistory behind the redirect.  In the meantime, the redirect does not strike me as especially harmful or confusing.  Note: I can also see an argument to restore the title to it's 2007 stub version.  A quick google search suggests that the subject is at the edge of WP:BIO.  I defer judgment on that option for now.  Rossami (talk) 22:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it really is quite on the edge. It does seem harmful to me to have redirects that point to articles containing no information about the subject of the redirect, especially when the article in question contains a fair number of vile loons, total assholes, and propaganda robots. (And some good and interesting people.) I think Tim would laugh to think of himself as worthy of an encyclopedia article -- and then he'd try to make sure it was a good and accurate article. --jpgordon:==( o ) 23:04, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


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Edo Sushi



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 15:56, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * → Bergh-Stoutenburgh House (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This redirect should be deleted as it failes to meet the guidelines set forth in WP:RDR. The target article only has a brief mention of it TheLou75 (talk) 17:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per the arguments in the "Thomas Doret" discussion below. Redirects of a semi- or non-notable topic to a more notable parent topic are accepted and even encouraged.  The topic is clearly mentioned in the first paragraph of the target article.  The redirect serves to preempt content which would be unlikely to meet our generally accepted inclusion criteria.  Having said that, it does appear that "Edo Sushi" is a fairly common name for Japanese restaurants.  I have been unable to determine whether they are a related chain (in which case, conversion to an article may be appropriate) or, if unrelated, whether any of the other instances of "Edo Sushi" are sufficiently notable to justify converting the redirect into a disambiguation page.  No objection to either of those solutions if someone else is more successful researching the company that I have been.  Rossami (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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1999−2000 ANAPROF



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 15:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * → 1999–2000 ANAPROF (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Page is named with an emdash; since the standard for association football season articles, per WP:MOSDATE, is an endash (plus a hyphen as a convenience accessibility redirect), this emdash version is not needed. Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 09:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. This redirect is the artifact of a very recent pagemove of a title that existed for several years prior to the move.  The redirect is automatically created to catch any remaining inbound links (whether current, in Wikipedia page history or external to Wikipedia).  While it was mildly helpful to bring the title into compliance with the Manual of Style ("mildly" because the difference between an emdash and an endash is fairly trivial), there is no reason to delete the redirect.  This creates no possibility of confusion, is in the way of no other content and is not in any way harmful to the project.  Rossami (talk) 13:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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