Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 September 14

September 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 14, 2012

Template:Crossbreed



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was various. Mostly converted to templates or deleted. Any that remain redirects can be renominated without prejudice, those that are now templates may be nominated at WP:TfD in the usual manner if anyone desires. Thryduulf (talk) 16:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * → Crossbreed (band) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Redirect from template-space to mainspace. Claiming of template without any practical use. The Banner talk 12:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Jax 0677 has done this many times more: The Banner talk 12:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC) The Banner  talk 11:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Template:Pretty Poison ✅
 * 2) Template:Skyclad
 * 3) Template:Æon Spoke
 * 4) Template:The Blue Van
 * 5) Template:Colour Revolt
 * 6) Template:Icon of Coil
 * 7) Template:Andy LaPlegua
 * 8) Template:Zombie Girl ✅
 * 9) Template:Sebastian Komor
 * 10) Template:Saviour Machine
 * 11) Template:Jason Gray
 * 12) Template:October Tide
 * 13) Template:Long Distance Calling
 * 14) Template:Swallow the Sun
 * 15) Template:Diabolical Masquerade
 * 16) Template:Anders Nyström
 * 17) Template:Carnal Forge
 * 18) Template:Jean Shepard
 * 19) Template:Linda Chung
 * 20) Template:Richard Chamberlain
 * 21) Template:Sugarcult
 * 22) Template:Bad Astronaut
 * 23) Template:Swingin' Utters
 * 24) Template:Exhumed
 * 25) Template:Skinless
 * 26) Template:Re-Volts
 * 27) Template:The Delfonics
 * 28) Template:Cilla Black
 * 29) Template:Roberta Flack
 * 30) Template:Burning Brides
 * 31) Template:Rick Wakeman
 * 32) Template:Gordon Giltrap
 * 33) Template:Earthworks
 * 34) Template:Bill Bruford
 * 35) Template:Blood Red Shoes
 * 36) Template:The Impressions
 * 37) Template:Hothouse Flowers
 * 38) Template:Intronaut
 * 39) Template:The Roches
 * 40) Template:Toni Basil
 * 41) Template:Jerry Roush
 * 42) Template:Mortiis
 * 43) Template:The Weavers
 * 44) Template:The Kingston Trio
 * 45) Template:Peter, Paul and Mary
 * 46) Template:Pete Seeger
 * 47) Template:Bing Crosby
 * 48) Template:Monie Love
 * 49) Template:John Digweed
 * 50) Template:Alexander Paul Coe
 * 51) Template:Sascha Schmitz
 * 52) Template:MC Shan
 * 53) Template:Juice Crew
 * 54) Template:Darrin O'Brien
 * 55) Template:Maggie Reilly
 * 56) Template:Johnny Paycheck
 * 57) Template:The Real McKenzies
 * 58) Template:Econoline Crush
 * 59) Template:Moist
 * 60) Template:Sonny Throckmorton
 * 61) Template:Bleed the Sky ✅
 * 62) Template:Lianne La Havas ✅
 * 63) Template:3X Krazy
 * 64) Template:Keak da Sneak
 * 65) Template:Subhumans
 * 66) Template:Jessie James ✅
 * 67) Template:Miho Hatori
 * 68) Template:MuzikMafia  (at least, I think...)
 * 69) Template:Sisqó
 * 70) Template:James Otto
 * 71) Template:Cowboy Troy ✅
 * 72) Template:Bubba Sparxxx
 * 73) Template:Tygers of Pan Tang
 * 74) Template:Benny Goodman
 * 75) Template:Louis Prima
 * 76) Template:Brian Setzer
 * 77) Template:The Tourists
 * 78) Template:Capharnaum
 * 79) Template:Nina Sky
 * 80) Template:Linda Lewis
 * 81) Template:Barbara Lewis ✅
 * 82) Template:Yvonne Elliman
 * 83) Template:John Hiatt
 * 84) Template:Breaks Co-Op
 * 85) Template:Fiona McDonald
 * 86) Template:Headless Chickens
 * 87) Template:Todd Smith
 * 88) Template:Knives Out! ✅
 * 89) Template:Brokencyde
 * 90) Template:Polkadot Cadaver ✅
 * 91) Template:Dog Fashion Disco
 * 92) Template:Pitch Black Forecast ✅
 * 93) Template:The Alter Boys ✅
 * 94) Template:Underminded ✅
 * 95) Template:Down to Nothing ✅
 * 96) Template:Giant Drag ✅
 * 97) Template:Rival Schools
 * 98) Template:Prince Po
 * 99) Template:A Life Once Lost
 * 100) Template:Kool G Rap
 * 101) Template:Marley Marl ✅
 * 102) Template:The Awakening
 * 103) Template:Chris Robinson
 * 104) Template:Crash Kings ✅
 * 105) Template:The Electric Prunes
 * 106) Template:Number One Gun
 * 107) Template talk:Third day
 * 108) Template:Revive ✅
 * 109) Template:Nevertheless ✅
 * 110) Template:Janie Fricke
 * 111) Template:40 Below Summer
 * 112) Template:Stroke 9
 * 113) Template:Weedeater ✅
 * 114) Template:Triggerfinger
 * 115) Template:Lillasyster ✅
 * 116) Template:Warbringer ✅
 * 117) Template:Mustasch
 * 118) Template:Raised Fist
 * 119) Template:Menards
 * 120) Template:Sendo
 * 121) Template:The Budos Band ✅
 * 122) Template:Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings
 * 123) Template:The Red Shore
 * 124) Template:While She Sleeps ✅
 * 125) Template:Memphis May Fire
 * 126) Template:Stick to Your Guns
 * 127) Template:Our Last Night
 * 128) Template:Burden of a Day ✅
 * 129) Template:Aircraft seat manufacturers
 * 130) Template:Winnebago Deal
 * 131) Template:Dwarves (band)
 * 132) Template:Nebula
 * 133) Template:Fu Manchu
 * 134) Template:Brant Bjork
 * 135) Template:Material
 * 136) Template:Torture Killer
 * 137) Template:Brain Drill ✅
 * 138) Template:Sabbat (Japanese band) ✅
 * 139) Template:Acheron
 * 140) Template:Zero Hour
 * 141) Template:Massacre
 * 142) Template:Massacre (experimental band)
 * 143) Template:Tom Jones
 * 144) Template:Leah Andreone
 * 145) Template:Vinnie Vincent Invasion
 * 146) Template:Union
 * 147) Template:Big Sir
 * 148) Template:Iron Savior
 * 149) Template:Savage Circus
 * 150) Template:Frehley's Comet
 * 151) Template:Lana Lane
 * 152) Template:Tommy Shaw
 * 153) Template:Vince Neil
 * 154) Template:Hughes Turner Project
 * 155) Template:Blackfoot (band)
 * 156) Template:Fiona
 * 157) Template:Waysted
 * 158) Template:Transrapid
 * 159) Template:ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems
 * 160) Template:Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft
 * 161) Template:Blohm + Voss
 * 162) Template:General Electric Company plc
 * 163) Template:Marconi Electronic Systems
 * 164) Template:Rheinmetall
 * 165) Template:L-3 Communications
 * 166) Template:Thyssen
 * 167) Template:Krupp
 * 168) Template:John Lee Hooker
 * 169) Template:Brunswick
 * 170) Template:The Damned Things
 * 171) Template:Dead and Divine
 * 172) Template:Every Time I Die
 * 173) Template:Arma Angelus
 * 174) Template:Matt Pond PA
 * 175) Template:Discordance Axis
 * 176) Template:Toxic Holocaust
 * 177) Template:The Receiving End of Sirens
 * 178) Template:Priscilla Renea ✅
 * 179) Template:The Suburbs


 * Delete all. While I haven't looked at all of them, a representative sample shows that each one was created directly as a redirect from template space to a pre-existing article. Whether this is a misundertanding of templates or something else I don't know, but all of them appear to have no use and many are in the way of potential future navigation templates. Thryduulf (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - First of all, I apologize to the community for creating templates that redirect to mainspace articles.
 * I acknowledge my error, and I have refrained from doing so as of late.
 * My intent is to create navigation boxes for each of these articles over time. The reality is that we are where we are, and that creating navigation boxes for each of these articles is a large undertaking.
 * I will start working from this list as my first priority. If the community feels that it must delete these templates immediately, I will respect that decision, and create these templates later on if it is appropriate to do so.  I strongly encourage other editors to create navigation boxes of these templates as well.
 * I just self-deleted Template:Pretty Poison, and made templates for Crossbreed and 2-100.
 * Thanks!--Jax 0677 (talk) 05:18, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You make good progress, but the number of templates now redirected to other template is quite worrying. The Banner talk 23:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thank you for your vote of confidence TB. Why is this worrying?  The templates are being redirected to templates of larger and inclusive scope, and I was not advised of needing six articles instead of five until after the fact.  On a side note, I would like to ask that so long as I am making progress, that this discussion be relisted for another week to give me time to get through this list, if that is OK.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, those redirects are useless and can be removed. It makes sense to redirect an article to another article, but redirecting templates to another template makes no sense. Nobody will use the redirects. The Banner talk 02:49, 21 September 2012 (UTC) I don't think any admin will close this discussion as it is still active. And it will keep active untill the whole list is done.
 * The whole list is now done. Most are fixed into a proper template, some are redirected to other templates (usefull? That is another discussion...), some are deleted. In short, there is no need to claim templates for future action. Do it now, or leave it. Next time Jax, I will make you bring a cup of tea to every single wiki-editor! To my opinion, this session is now finished and can be closed. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 15:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The 1 week discussion period is much less rigid at RfD than AfD, so it wont be closed while you're still working through the list. Jax, I suggest that you wait until the list is complete then if there are any of those redirects you think should be deleted nominate them as a new discussion (using the format) as the rationale will be different. Redirecting one template to another can be useful, although I make no comment about whether any of the ones above are or are not - I've not looked yet. Thryduulf (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Redirects are cheap. I am now complete with dispositioning the 179 redirects mentioned above.  Thank you all for your patience.
 * Sincerely, The Phoenix.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.