Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 April 23

April 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 23, 2013

El du Pont de Nemours



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 * The result of the discussion was keep and tag as . Thryduulf (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * → DuPont (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Letter L so it reads El other than EI which uses I  Eye snore  (PC) 23:49, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep and tag as R from misspelling Ego White Tray (talk) 12:08, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per EWT. Until I checked the target, I thought you meant that it was EI when it should be EL and was going to vote for deletion; EL is much more common than EI, so it's natural that people would misread EI for EL.  Nyttend (talk) 17:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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Paul Kevin Curtis



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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted per WP:SNOW and WP:BLP-- Jayron  32  16:55, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

All charges against the man named here have been dropped and, he is now, at best, a minor historical footnote. There is no need for his name to remain as a redirect to a set of attacks he is apparently factually innocent of. polarscribe (talk) 22:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * → 2013 ricin letters (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * No objection to deletion. I created the redirect to prevent the typical "breaking news" creation of the article. Location (talk) 22:35, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt per BLP. The charges have been dropped against this man; his infamy was only temporary. Associating him with this case is needlessly damaging to his reputation.  Them  From  Space  23:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt, without delay, For now I have changed the redirect's target. It is not required that we maintain this inappropriate target throughout this discussion, only that we don't remove the tag. My76Strat (talk) 08:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom and BLP. Mr T  (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 08:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Immediate delete and SALT - per BLP. We don't need to add to what this guy has been through. I invoke SNOWBALL here.--ukexpat (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hindu Taliban



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 * The result of the discussion was delete both and SALT. Thryduulf (talk) 18:48, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

These slangy pejorative terms are not discussed at the target nor in any other page which the target links to. These two redirects intrinsically represent a contentious POV. Furthermore, I didn't find any reliable source which directly links either of the redirect phrases to the target. Mr T (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 13:38, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * → Saffron terror (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Saffron terror (links to redirect • [ history] • )    [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Note Both of these have been articles in the past. Hindu jihad was deleted here with a clear consensus, while Hindu Taliban actually survived two debates (1, 2) before being deleted last week on the third attempt. Sideways713 (talk) 15:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No redirect was indicated in the last AFD, and nothing has changed since then. This is POV-pushing at best. § FreeRangeFrog croak 18:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Highly pejorative, guilt by association and unsourced. polarscribe (talk) 23:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - per User:FreeRangeFrog. -sarvajna (talk) 02:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems a runaround of the AfD result. As I pointed out in that discussion, Christian Taliban was deleted at this venue, having pointed to Christian fundamentalism. --BDD (talk) 23:52, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If deleted, please also WP:SALT it. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 03:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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Samba (song)



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 20:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * → Música + Alma + Sexo (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

WP:PRECISION - not precise enough title for failed notability Martin song (confusingly listed as both a single and not a single at Música + Alma + Sexo) which is too close to music/dance primary topic Samba as to cause ambiguity. The song is best accessible through the DAB page Samba (disambiguation) for this non-notable song. Alternatively this could be moved to more precise Samba (Ricky Martin) (or equiv) but there's no pressing need Widefox ; talk 09:46, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Refine target to Música + Alma + Sexo and add a hotnote to the dab page. It is standard for titles of songs to redirect to the albums they feature on if they are the primary topic for a search term. In this case there are no other songs that are competing for the title, and neither the musical style nor the dance are songs, so there is no reason to change things. This got 180 views last month and changing this would inconvenience people for no benefit.Thryduulf (talk) 10:33, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Refined to Música + Alma + Sexo ✅, hatnote ✅. This isn't a single on the album (so not in the tracklist), and only released in Brazil so not quite as clear cut. The viewcount 1. includes the false clicks I'm aiming to prevent 2. may now be less significant that suggests - the album had two self-links and the template linked through the redir too. I've fixed all those incoming (another single in the template already links straight to the album). That leaves only three incoming links, which as your argument has merit I've left for now. My point is the precision/ambiguous (song), especially for non-native speakers but maybe I'm being too cautious. Current compromise seems much effort for a non-notable song compared to the primary meaning(s) (dance and musical genre) but I'm happy to close now. Widefox ; talk 11:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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Male Escort Awards



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep ~  Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 23:31, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * → List of gay pornography awards (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

delete, no reliable source for a significant award with this name, not listed in target article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC) 
 * Disambiguate. Both List of gay pornography awards, which are awarded to male escorts only, and List of gay pornography awards, awarded to "male escorts and gay sex workers", are referred to as the "Male Escort Awards". Looking at google hits for this exact phrase there doesn't appear to be a primary topic. International Male Escort Awards (I'll create that redirect momentarily) however clearly relates to the former so it gets marginally more hits for the three-word search. Thryduulf (talk) 00:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 05:26, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep we don't need a dab page as both posible targets go to the same page. A note on the page will suffice.--Salix (talk): 20:50, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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Portal:San Francisco Bay Area/San Francisco Bay Area news



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete target deleted per MFD Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:San Francisco Bay Area/In the news. --Salix (talk): 20:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * → Portal:San Francisco Bay Area/In the news (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Redirect to an out of date portal segment, not used for years, with no plans to reuse again. I note that editors have pointed out that AFD's for portal pages are not normally done, as the portal editors usually manage the pages themselves, and that the AFD admins dont want to micromanage. I am the only editor of this portal right now, and since i cant delete pages (not being an admin), i have to ask here. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Defer. The target page has been nominated for deletion at MfD. If it is deleted this redirect will be speedily deleted (per WP:CSD), if the target isn't deleted and you still want the redirect deleted, then renominate it here then. There is no point in parallel discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 01:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:San Francisco Bay Area/In the news for the related MfD.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943  (talk) 04:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


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Onur Mutlu



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by user:Yunshui. Thryduulf (talk) 08:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * → Narcissistic personality disorder (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Possible vandalism or libel, nonsensical redirect Revolution1221 (talk · email · contributions) 03:14, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete as attack page, Onur Mutlu is an engineering professor. Ego White Tray (talk) 03:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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WCIP



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 * The result of the discussion was Disambiguate multiple posible targets --Salix (talk): 21:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)


 * → We Come in Pieces (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Album has never been referred to as "WCIP" Revolution1221 (talk · email · contributions) 03:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to World Council of Indigenous Peoples, an organization that has this abbreviation and is first on Google. Other finds are a Washington State insurance fund, a Christian radio station, and a guy trying to find a mail-order bride http://wcip.org (I'm not making this up - I couldn't make this up). Two of those have the potential to become articles, but until then, the Indigenous Peoples deserve the link. Ego White Tray (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate there's also a Conserve Georgia project called WCIP -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 05:09, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget per EWT, and create WCIP (disambiguation) or add hatnots for the other uses as the indigenous peoples organisation is the clear primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 08:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm against the disambig, since we don't have enough topics for it, but feel free to draft one and prove me wrong. Ego White Tray (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Retarget to World Council of Indigenous Peoples per Ego White Tray.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate, given that we seem to have multiple valid targets. Unless y'all want to put half a dozen hatnotes on each article, a DAB page would be simplest. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 12:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I drafted a disambiguation page at User:Ultraexactzz/WCIP. The order, obviously, could probably stand to be adjusted, if only to the alphabetical. I didn't see the radio station, but that should be added as well - and I omitted wcip.org, because reasons. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 12:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment After retargeting, use Ultraexactzz's draft as WCIP (disambiguation). I stand by view that WCIP should redirect to the Indigenous people's organization. Ego White Tray (talk) 01:24, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
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