Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 December 14

December 14
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 14, 2013.

Interstate 70 in Ohio County, West Virginia



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 01:37, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Interstate 70 in Ohio County, West Virginia → Interstate 70 in West Virginia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This redirect does not fit in with the WP:USSH naming scheme and is an unused redirect.  Admr Boltz  19:27, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete, unlikely search term, unused. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 19:40, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - plausible search term, sends readers to what appears to be the right place. No rationale has been presented to support deletion. Wily D  10:54, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nothing wrong with it, and it's completely accurate — West Virginia's portion of I-70 is wholly within Ohio County.  Naming conventions such as WP:USSH govern the titles of articles; they're not relevant for redirects.  Nyttend (talk) 03:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Kettlepot, Kansas



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. WJBscribe (talk) 00:42, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Kettlepot, Kansas → The Suite Life on Deck (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Ok. So there's a fictional character from (the equally fictional) Kettlecorn, Kansas who was redirected to the Suite Life article per AfD. But this doesn't seem to be a plausible mistake for that fictional place. essentially just returns noise. I can't see this being very useful. BDD (talk) 07:56, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is no mention of this fictional location at the target article. -- Whpq (talk) 23:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
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Patriotic Alliance



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 * The result of the discussion was dabify. --BDD (talk) 01:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Patriotic Alliance → Patriotic Alliance (Greece) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I would like this redirect to the Greek party to be deleted because there is another article about a political party called Patriotic Alliance, which has been disambiguated with "(South Africa)" in parentheses and this is an active party, unlike the Greek one, which was dissolved in 2007. The redirect to the article on the defunct Greek party gives it too much prominence and makes it harder for South Africans searching for information on the active party in their country to find the article relating to Patriotic Alliance (South Africa). CHScribbler (talk) 07:53, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hold on. If you're saying the South African party is the primary topic for "Patriotic Alliance," what you really want to do is request a move of Patriotic Alliance (South Africa) to Patriotic Alliance. If there is no primary topic, Patriotic Alliance should be a disambiguation page with both parties listed. Actually, it's good that you brought this up, because a title like Patriotic Alliance shouldn't redirect to a title like Patriotic Alliance (Greece) anyway—that's unnecessary disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 08:01, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll make the request to move Patriotic Alliance (South Africa) to Patriotic Alliance. CHScribbler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:18, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, would you mind please deleting the redirect and renaming Patriotic Alliance (South Africa) to Patriotic Alliance. If an administrator could delete the redirect I'd also be able to rename the South African page. Hope I'm following protocol here ... a bit new to this. CHScribbler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suggest putting in a request at WP:RMTR, and from there an administrator can move it to a full discussion if he or she thinks it could be controversial. I don't doubt that the South African party has a better claim to the name than the Greek one, but in a discussion, I wouldn't be surprised if people said there was no primary topic and that there should be a disambiguation page. That tends to be the case with political parties. Even though I would say there's a clear primary topic for "Democratic Party" and "Republican Party," our titles are still Democratic Party (United States) and Republican Party (United States). Just let me know if you need any help with this. --BDD (talk) 19:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate as there is also the Honduran Patriotic Alliance, Democratic Patriotic Alliance of Kurdistan, Patriotic Alliance for Change, Patriotic Alliance for Territorial Integrity and Sint Maarten Patriotic Alliance. A quick Google suggests that the South African party is more prominent than the others, but primary dab is probably best. I'll create Patriotic Alliance (disambiguation) for now. Thryduulf (talk) 12:35, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate. This is quite obviously a good redirect for this target, i.e. if no other pages existed called "Patriotic Alliance" but we still wanted to have the Greek article at its current location, we'd definitely want this redirect to be in place.  In such a situation, we should never delete the redirect, because if the current setup is problematic, retargeting is the only helpful choice — right now it's hard to find all but one of the articles with "Patriotic Alliance" in their titles, but deletion would make it hard to find the Greek article without making it easier to find the others.  Nyttend (talk) 03:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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