Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 December 23

December 23
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 23, 2013.

Wikipedia:Ben Cleveland



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 17:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Ben Cleveland → Ben Cleveland (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

CNR, rarely used (has been viewed twice in the past 90 days).  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 20:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. The target was moved to the incorrect namespace (Wikipedia rather than article) and this redirect was created when that move was corrected. WP:CSD covers situations like this under the "pages created in the wrong namespace" portion of the criterion (this was explicitly endorsed on the talk page a few months ago). Thryduulf (talk) 17:33, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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Mountain Province province



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WJBscribe (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Mountain Province province → Mountain Province (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete this as a redundant redirect, and improbable search string. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 19:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - unlike other Filipino provinces, Mountain Province includes province as part of the name, making this a plausible search term. Wily D 11:28, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per WD, it's just pedantic. -- 65.94.76.3 (talk) 23:42, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Darkfall Unholy Wars



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Darkfall Unholy Wars → Darkfall Unholy Wars (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unused redirect from project to mainspace left over from an article draft which has since been moved. benzband ( talk ) 17:44, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Violins and Tambourines



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 17:42, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Violins and Tambourines → Violins and Tambourines (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unused redirect from project space to mainspace, created as the result of a move mistake. benzband ( talk ) 17:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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Victor Rask



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. WJBscribe (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Victor Rask → 2010 World U-17 Hockey Challenge (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

A pointless redirect seemingly created for the sole purpose of grabbing the first edit on a page. I don't see value in redirecting a player who does not yet meet WP:NHOCKEY to a random article in which he is mentioned. After all, why this one? Why not List of Dinamo Riga draft picks? Or 2011–12 Carolina Hurricanes season? Or 2011 IIHF World U18 Championships? 2013 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships rosters? 2012 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships rosters? List of Carolina Hurricanes draft picks? 2011 NHL Entry Draft? The truth is, nobody who searches for "Victor Rask" is expecting to go to any of these pages. It is therefore an implausible search term for any, and the result is only confusing and harmful to the reader. This should remain a red link until the player reaches the point where an article can be created. Resolute 15:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No clear target. Non-notable person.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 16:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete No clear redirect target for non-notable player. -DJSasso (talk) 16:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - No WP:RFD. The subject of the redirect is listed at the target page. The subject is not a likely candidate for a stand-alone article and, per WP:ONEEVENT, this is an appropriate redirect which is useful as it links the reader to the article where the person is mentioned. Dolovis (talk) 18:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Erm, ok. Would you like to address the substantive point, or do you prefer to simply stick with your copy/paste boilerplate response, even though it does nothing to address my reason to argue the deletion of this redirect? Resolute 19:28, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No clear target for this non-notable in which it has been unjustly speculated he will become notable. Hwy43 (talk) 19:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Extremely implausible search term, one of several such Dolovis has made in recent weeks.   Ravenswing   23:44, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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Jim Barrell



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WJBscribe (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Jim Barrell → Boris Zhukov (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete, this redirect has existed for years based on other websites incorrectly reporting that Boris Zhukov's real name, Jim Harrell, being "Barrell" and this inaccuracy had spread to every language Wikipedia resulting in every edition referring to him as "Barrell", then spread to Wikidata. I really feel like this error needs to go. While it's just an error, this is resulting in multiple problems, even throwing Google off on their sidebar biography they take from Wikipedia. Regards, — Moe   Epsilon  05:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Incorrectness is not a reason to delete a redirect, indeed in cases like this where the incorrect name has been widely reported it becomes a very likely search term. The correct thing for us to do is to redirect from the wrong name to the article about the person people are looking for and educate them about the incorrect name in the article. If Wikidata is incorrect, then correct Wikidata but you don't need to delete the redirect to do that. Thryduulf (talk) 11:11, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems to be a common error, and beyond that, B and H are adjacent on a QWERTY keyboard, making it a plausible typo. Wily D 09:54, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
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Lahmajun



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 * The result of the discussion was wrong forum.  Requested moves is the correct venue for this. Thryduulf (talk) 17:35, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Lahmajun → Lahmajoon (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

reverse redirect, as present exaggerated phoneticism Lahmajoon is deprecated and not represented in article. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like you should take this to requested moves. Sideways713 (talk) 14:56, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy procedural close this is an issue for WP:RM -- 65.94.78.9 (talk) 05:29, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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December 11th, 1936



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WJBscribe (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * December 11th, 1936 → 1936 (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

delete, unnecessary single day redirect. Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - hugely historic date and therefore plausible search term. Harmless and no WP:RFD reason cited. The Whispering Wind (talk) 03:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, discussed at target. Siuenti (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
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Aedan



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Aidan (name). <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">WJBscribe (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Aedan → Áedán mac Gabráin (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This one's kind of confusing. It redirects to mac Gabráin's article, but Áedán is a redirect to Aidan. We should be consistent here. Thoughts?  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 01:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * retarget both to Aidan (name) as that's where the only uses of Aedan and Áedán are listed. Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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