Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 June 12

June 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 12, 2013

Plaintiff in error



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 * The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wiktionary. There were no objections to the nominators proposal that this should not be a hard redirect to a Wikipedia article, and no comments on whether it should be a redlink or a soft redirect. As the page gets lots of hits, I'm boldly choosing the latter option. If anyone objects to this drop me a note on my talk page and I'll happily relist the discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 09:32, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → Appeal (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete per WP:REDLINK. The targeted section doesn't exist anymore, and the phrase isn't mentioned in that article or at Plaintiff. The phrase was transwiki'd to Wiktionary a long time ago, so a soft redirect may be appropriate instead. BDD (talk) 19:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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NYC BABY!



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 05:27, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. The redirect NYC is sufficient. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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New your city



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 09:24, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Misspelling Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This one gets some traffic. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Of course it's a misspelling, it's an r from misspelling. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 20:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, typical R From Mispelling. Cavarrone 10:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete This is quite a novel "misspelling." Seems like more of a pun. --BDD (talk) 05:28, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Ciudad Nueva York



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 05:28, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Spanish redirect Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is English Wikipedia, and Spanish-language redirects are not needed for this topic. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Ciudad de Nueva York



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 05:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Spanish redirect Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is English Wikipedia, and Spanish-language redirects are not needed for this topic. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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Nueva York (ciudad)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 05:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Spanish redirect Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is English Wikipedia, and Spanish-language redirects are not needed for this topic. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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New Yourk City



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. We're fairly generous with redirects from misspellings, and one extra letter makes this a reasonable one. --BDD (talk) 17:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. This one gets traffic. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I created both this redirect and "New Yourk, New Yourk." They are not test pages, and I don't appreciate such an insult to my work: you practically just called me a vandal. I think both misspellings are common and understandable enough; note that a Google search for "new yourk" turns up 489,000 hits. szyslak  ( t ) 22:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment is this supposed to be Brooklyn English? -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, typical R From Misspelling. Cavarrone 10:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If this is a typical "mispelling", perhaps we should also create redirects for "New Pork", "Noo Pork", "Noo Dork", Poo Cork" and any variation of the above. Are they not teaching Inglysh in skools aneemoor? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 15:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Your argument is silly. "New Yourk" is an understandable misspelling, "Noo Pork" or "Poo Cork" obviously not. Cavarrone 21:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * New York is so well known worldwide that such a misspelling is only understandable if the reader is functionally illiterate. The point of my examples, which are no more silly than "yourk", is that we can create redirects for every possible misspelling but we limit them to plausible cases. That a few people may have typed such misspellings doesn't make them any more plausible than other examples such as Melbouring (Melbourne), Sydelly (courtesy of Juan Antonio Samaranch's 2000 Summer Olympics announcement) or Unyted Staytes. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As mentioned above, half a million Google hits make this specific case plausible and not so rare. And AGF, it could easily be a typo error, not depending from being "functionally illiterate" (in fact, R from misspelling refers to " misspelling or typographical error"). Your examples have not the same strength, as Sydelly and Melbouring have a few hundreds of Google hits and for the main part (if not all) they don't refer to the related places. Cavarrone 05:58, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Per WP:GOOGLEHITS, "a large number of hits on a search engine is no guarantee that the subject is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia". A quick look reveals that many of those hits have nothing to do New York City itself. There are links to a dog kennel, a hotel in Las Vegas and so on. In any case, the number of google hits really has nothing to do with a redirect. They might have some relevance if the redirect was an article, but it isn't. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) WP:GOOGLEHITS refers to notability and has nothing to do with a redirect from misspelling, 2) the main part of the Google hits refers to New York, if you says otherwise you are in bad faith, 3) A New York dog kennel called "New Yourk Dog" is clearly a wordplay based on New York. Cavarrone 08:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, you can't have it both ways. You can't justify retention of a redirect based on the number of ghits without accepting what WP:GOOGLEHITS says. Redirects are still articles - they're in article space (they're simply redirected articles), so GOOGLEHITS still applies. They New York dog kennel is not New York, so the fact that somebody has misspelled the city's name in order to create a business name is not justification to keep this redirect, any more than the Las Vegas hotel. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 14:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirects are not articles, not everything in article space is an article (see Article namespace). Notability does not apply to redirects, and certainly not to now "notable" a misspelling is for the purposes of redirects from misspelling. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To get back on track, my point was (and still is) that the number of google hits is irrelevant to whether or not this redirect should be kept. Clearly the people looking for dog kennels or Las Vegas hotels aren't looking for New York city based on traffic. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 18:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To get back on track, the main part of the half a million google hits is patently related to New York City (even excluding nine-tenths of unrelated results, we would have the impressive number of 50,000 hits!) and Wikipedia stats document that "New Yourk City" is used as a search-term about 300 times a month, , . There are no other significant results for the search-term . Your main argument is an outright rejection of the concept of redirect from misspelling, but obviously this is not the place for this discussion. Cavarrone 19:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete See my comments above. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep People are using it, and the target article very likely is where they want to end up; thus, it's useful and should be kept. Also, WP:CHEAP applies. Sideways713 (talk) 19:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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New Yourk, New Yourk



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. The double misspelling makes this implausible; the existence of New Yourk City will still serve anyone under the impression that the correct spelling involves Us. --BDD (talk) 17:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Two typos make it unlikely to be searched, and the traffic reflects this. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment is this supposed to be Brooklyn English? -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't intend this as a representation of Brooklyn English or any other form of "eye dialect." szyslak  ( t ) 22:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * See my comments on "", above. szyslak  ( t ) 22:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - See my comments above at . -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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Fun city



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. GB fan 12:47, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a plausible search term that is seeing actual use. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * disambiguate many cities are "Fun City" such as Las Vegas and Atlantic City and Vansterdam and Sin City of Canada, etc. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per above sound analysis. Many cities are referred as "Fun City". Cavarrone 10:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. The list of cities not known as "Fun City" is probably shorter than the list of cities known as "Fun City".  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 22:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Too generic a term, even for a disambiguation page. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:27, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per AussieLegend, although if someone wanted to be bold and recreate it as a dab, I doubt anyone would try to have it deleted. --BDD (talk) 22:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Far too ambiguous.  As others have already noted, this couldn't even survive as a maintainable disambiguation page.  Rossami (talk) 16:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
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The City So Nice They Named It Twice



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. GB fan 12:45, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page, redirect Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a plausible search term that is seeing actual use. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate OKC,OK? Qc,QC? KCK,KA? etc -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per List of city nicknames in New York. I can't find any other cities called this, unless you want to count "the town so nice they named it twice" for Walla Walla, Washington. TimBentley (talk) 14:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Searching for "city so nice they named it twice" -york did get a few hits for Walla Walla, but NYC still gets most of the hits. TimBentley (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per List of city nicknames in New York. Cavarrone 10:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
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November Yankee Charlie



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. GB fan 12:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → New York City (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Test page, redirect Epicgenius (talk to me • see my contributions)  13:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Not a likely search term. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, pointless. — This, that and the other (talk) 01:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep phonetic alphabetic spelling (police-speak) [same as SAAB commercials spelled it Sierra-Alpha-Alpha-Bravo] -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Update retarget to NYC (disambiguation) per Emmette Hernandez Coleman -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 12:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, but only if the redirect can be made to NYC, and not followed to New York City. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 23:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That would create a double-redirect. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 05:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To clarify, Weak Keep only if retargeted to NYC (disambiguation). — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Hotel India Golf Hotel Lima Yankee Uniform November Lima...... No, too hard. People don't do that. Highly unlikely search term. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 06:07, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak retarget to NYC (disambiguation) per 65.94.79.6 Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Highly unlikely search term. A redirect entirely for people who like to try to be clever. (Show me a person familiar with "November Yankee Charlie" but not New York City and I may change my mind.) --BDD (talk) 05:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Australian road/KML/Pialligo Avenue



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 05:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)


 * → Template:Attached KML/Pialligo Avenue (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Constitution Avenue, Canberra (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Kingsford Smith Drive, Canberra (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Capital Circle (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Hindmarsh Drive, Canberra (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Belconnen Way (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Tharwa Drive (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Yarra Glen, Canberra (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Winthrop Avenue (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/William Street, Perth (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/West Swan Road (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/West Coast Highway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Wanneroo Road (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Tuggeranong Parkway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Tonkin Highway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Thomas Street, Perth (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/The Causeway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → Template:Attached KML/Thomas Road (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This was an unused, redundant KML file, that was part of failed experiment. (See Template talk:Infobox Australian road). As I was the only editor of this and a related group of other KML files, I was tagging them with db-author as none of the files were needed. Unfortunately, another editor has rushed in and redirected the remaining files so db-author is no longer appropriate  Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Procedural note-These were originally all nominated separately with identical rationales. I've combined them for ease of discussion. --Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 14:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all - Redundant redirects. <b style="color:darkblue;">Harryboyles</b> 01:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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Fucking stolen sign
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 09:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * → Fucking, Austria (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Although the signs of Fucking, Austria have been notably stolen to the point that they were welded and cemented into the ground (as noted in the article this redirect leads to), this particular redirect seems like a joke much more than a legitimate redirect and should be deleted.  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  04:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep seems like a search term someone might use, if they didn't know the place was in Austria. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep-Plausible search term, averaging around 30-40 hits per month. --Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to File:Fucking, Austria, street sign cropped.jpg. If people are searching for "Fucking stolen sign", they're clearly searching for the image, not the article. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 00:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Arguably, because the redirect isn't in all caps ("FUCKING STOLEN STREET SIGN"), it cannot qualify as a shortcut. Thus WP:CSD would then apply. The image is at the top of the article anyway. PleaseStand (talk) 08:19, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Plausible search term. Cavarrone 08:46, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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