Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 13

November 13
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 13, 2013.

Paranor



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was resolved. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Paranor → Shannara (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I hope this doesn't seem like forum shopping since this redirect was established at AfD, but the subject isn't mentioned at the target article. It's shown on a map at The Four Lands, so I propose retargeting there. --BDD (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I can see the reasoning for the suggested retargeting. However, after vast content removal, what is left is an un-viable sub-stub that may as well be merged into Shannara. I intend to boldly merge, later on tonight, making a retarget moot. If it gets split out again then a retarget goes back on the agenda. The Whispering Wind (talk) 19:46, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No objections. That's probably a good solution. --BDD (talk) 20:59, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge complete - let's see if it holds! The Whispering Wind (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --BDD (talk) 17:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:DELETIONIST



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 * The result of the discussion was soft retarget to Deletionist. WJBscribe (talk) 18:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * DELETIONIST → Deletionism and inclusionism in Wikipedia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

WP:CNR; not used very much  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Deletionism, Deletionist, and DELETIONISM all soft-redirect to meta, so we could point DELETIONIST at Deletionist. Also, of the various inclusion(ist/ism) links, INCLUSIONIST is the only one that doesn't soft-redirect to meta (it has the same target as Wikipedia:DELETIONIST. Chris857 (talk) 17:38, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Retarget as soft redirects. Best to be consistent with these. --BDD (talk) 18:36, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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Natalie holloway



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WJBscribe (talk) 13:27, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Natalie holloway → Natalee Holloway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Fairly redundant with Natalie Holloway; anyone putting 'natalie holloway' into the search bar will still be redirected to Natalee Holloway. Laun chba  ller  13:49, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Redundancy =/= it's not useful. This redirect has 1155 times in the past 90 days, so obviously some people find it useful, and there's nothing harmful about it.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That is from people typing in 'natalie holloway'. The search bar is case insensitive, so anyone typing that in will still be redirected to Natalee Holloway.-- Laun  chba  ller  19:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * So... why delete it? You acknowledge that people are using it, so deleting it will serve no purpose. It's not really serving a unique purpose right now, I'll give you that, but it's still not doing anything wrong. What if somebody types this in the URL bar?  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 01:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - usage shows that this is a plausible typo. Harmless. No WP:RFD reason to delete. The Whispering Wind (talk) 19:28, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - valid R from other capitalisation. In fact, I went ahead and tagged it. Steel1943  (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per Steel1943  (talk).-- Lenticel  ( talk ) 03:42, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - sends the reader to what they're looking for. No argument has been presented for deletion. Wily D 10:20, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Common 'I think that's the name' misspelling for subject, plenty of readers utilizing this redirect. Also, not everyone has autocomplete on for the search box, so RD's use is justified.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:23, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Guide to abbreviations used in deletion debates



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 * The result of the discussion was no longer a redirect. If the page is to be deleted, it would now need to be nominated at Miscellany for deletion. WJBscribe (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Guide to abbreviations used in deletion debates → Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. In regards to the reasons, possibly WP:RFD reasons #2 (is not a guide of abbreviations) and #10 (is a good title for a guide of abbreviations). For what I see, it looks like this redirect was created back in 2007 as the result of a page move, but has no real history attached to it. Looking at the history, it seems like the page was moved to the redirect's title in this edit (original move), and then was moved back to the redirect's current target in this edit (move revert) less than two hours later. Steel1943 (talk) 03:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete: There are no links to the present redirect from anywhere in Wikipedia space. It now gets about four page views per month, while its target, WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions gets 1,800 views per month. It is unlikely that our editors will lose any helpful guidance if this redirect is deleted. EdJohnston (talk) 03:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Create the page and if not delete. I think such a page would be great to have since we have a whole bunch of abbreviations here that new users probably don't understand. Maybe I'll get started on that. Ego White Tray (talk) 02:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ego White Tray, I like what I'm seeing so far on Guide to abbreviations used in deletion debates. I'm thinking that with the current list on the page, the page might need to be renamed to "Wikipedia:Guide to abbreviations used in ...", considering that these abbreviations can be used in more than just deletion debates. However, as that is a move discussion and the page is still a work-in-progress, that may be a discussion for a later time. In the meantime, rather than withdrawing this RfD, I'm going to let it play itself out so that this page can get exposure for other editors to "stumble" upon and see. Steel1943  (talk) 05:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Create the page This seems like a really good idea for a page. Let's say new user Billy Duncan creates an article on his favorite band "The Laserblasts" and it gets AfDed. Lots of season users comment. Billy wants to make a comment too but doesn't know what all these words those other editors are using. Ta-da, he reads this page and gets everything straight. I would gladly contribute to a page like this.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 02:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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