Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 6

November 6
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 6, 2013.

B2W Software (formerly know as BID2WIN Software)



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted as WP:CSD R3 by  RHaworth. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 20:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * B2W Software (formerly know as BID2WIN Software) → B2W Software (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

While this was a page title for just over four hours, it's an unlikely search term with a spelling error to boot, so it's very unlikely to be useful. --BDD (talk) 18:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per criterion R3 "Implausible typos". While the typo "know" for "known" is not in fact implausible, the original title as a whole is an implausible title that no one will use to find the target - and it does contain a typo, and it's best to delete these sorts of titles before they can cause trouble. Note that BID2WIN Software does already exist as a redirect. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and tagged db-R3. The Whispering Wind (talk) 19:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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Bangerz



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Bangers. My judgement is that this retarget represents consensus. The suggestion of moving Bangerz (album) is best revisited at WP:RM. One editor suggested deleting the all capitals BANGERTZ but BDD convincingly argued the policy case against this. Finally, this RFD is without prejudice to a bold conversion of Bangerz to a disamb page. It is always a legitimate editorial action to convert a redirect to an article or to a disamb page and, by such an action, they take the page out of scope of RFD but open it to scrutiny and possible deletion elsewhere. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 03:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Bangerz → The Bangerz (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * BANGERZ → The Bangerz (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I propose retargeting to Bangers. The recent RM to move Bangerz (album) to Bangerz was unsuccessful, but I can't imagine this band is truly WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this term. If it's not, we must treat it as an ambiguous search term. --BDD (talk) 18:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Support retarget as proposed. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose moving Bangerz (album) to Bangerz, redir the all-caps to Bangerz or just delete so it goes there anywhere. The Miley article is more popular than the band, and the band is The Bangerz. I see no evidence the band ever called themselves just "Bangerz", making the album the primary topic. A dablink at the top of Bangerz/The Bangerz to the other article should suffice. --TheTruthiness (talk) 20:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * A good idea, but there was no consensus for it at a recent RM, so I think we'll have to wait a while before that can be tried again. --BDD (talk) 21:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Support redirecting "Bangerz" to "Bangers", per nomination. Delete the all-caps "BANGERZ", since the redirect was only created after it was falsely assumed that the album title would be stylized as such. WikiRedactor (talk) 20:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The all-caps version is likely to be kept as a legitimate R from alternative capitalization, and per WP:CHEAP. --BDD (talk) 21:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Support retargeting away from The Bangerz, but redirect to Bangerz (album). Let's be real here, this is what the vast majority of readers are looking for when they type in or click on these terms. Barring that, pointing to the dab page where readers can more easily find the album is still better than leaving it a redirect to the DJ group.--Cúchullain t/ c 00:38, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Support retargetting as proposed. I also think that the album is the primary topic at this point, but the move request failed to gain consensus, and retargeting the redirect to the album is more or less a back-door way to this result. That said, I am not opposed to such a retargeting, just uneasy about it from a procedural standopint. bd2412  T 03:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Support retargeting as proposed, there is no reason the DJ group should be considered the primary search topic for the word "Bangerz".  STATic  message me!  20:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Bangerz should be a separate disambiguation page, just as Bangor is, and Bangers should redirect to Banger. Peter&#160;James (talk) 19:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think two entries justifies the need for a full disambiguation page; until a primary topic can be established for either the album or the group, the original proposal seems like the best option for now. WikiRedactor (talk) 23:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's better to have a short disambiguation page than a redirect to a longer one in which most of the entries are completely irrelevant. There could be a "See also" from Banger or Bangers. Combination of those two terms in one page makes maintenance easier (as both are correct for many of the entries), but there would be no overlap with "Bangerz" other than via "see also". Peter&#160;James (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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Over the shoulder boulder holder



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Stunner (professional wrestling). --BDD (talk) 00:09, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Over the shoulder boulder holder → Brassiere (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Funny, but not encyclopedic, nothing links here. I don't think we should have such joke redirects. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 14:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC) 
 * Retarget to Stunner (professional wrestling) as an established wrestling term. It is also mentioned at Ryback from where it can be linked. The Whispering Wind (talk) 15:29, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 17:43, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


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Jeff Rosenbaum



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Association for Consciousness Exploration. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 02:26, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Jeff Rosenbaum → Starwood Festival (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Both targets used for this redirect have only the redirect's name, used only once, without any real information about the subject. On another note, Twinkle claims this redirect is not a redirect, though the syntax is correct, so if someone could figure out why, that would be great. MSJapan (talk) 04:28, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep  Retarget - For background see Articles for deletion/Jeff Rosenbaum (2nd nomination). The only information Wikipedia has about Rosenbaum is that he is one of the two directors of the Starwood Festival. Since our freestanding article on Jeff Rosenbaum was deleted at AfD, I believe that a redirect is justified. The redirect represents a compromise with those who favored more coverage of Rosenbaum. It is noted at Talk:Starwood Festival that that article was the subject of two mediations and an arbitration case. Let's not upset that applecart again. EdJohnston (talk) 04:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Per the comments below, I agree with retargetting to Association for Consciousness Exploration. EdJohnston (talk) 02:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Association for Consciousness Exploration. That was apparently the original target, was redirect at some point, a robot fixed the double redirect, and then Association for Consciousness Exploration was rebuilt.  Wily D  09:52, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget per WilyD. It sounds like he's primarily notable for being a director of the ACE, which happens to put on the Starwood Festival, so it makes more sense to redirect to the organization he's involved in, rather than just one function of that organization. If the festival were significantly more notable than the ACE, it might make sense to merge the latter into the former, but that doesn't seem to be the case. --BDD (talk) 00:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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