Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 October 6

October 6
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 6, 2013.

SAW



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Saw (disambiguation). (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 00:57, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Saw (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Originally pointed to saw (disambiguation), and was retargeted to saw a year ago by. I think if a user is typing in the second and third letter in caps, they're more likely to be looking for an alternate meaning. For instance, I typed this in because I was trying to remember what the Muslim abbreviation stood for.  — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  23:40, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Saw (disambiguation) - I take the nominator's rationale. The Whispering Wind (talk) 23:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Retarget to the disambiguation page per the nomination. I just searched for "SAW" because I was looking for the weapon (M249 light machine gun). Axl  ¤  [Talk]  19:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget per nom.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 08:46, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Michael Joseph Baum



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy deletion. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Articles for creation/Michael Joseph Baum (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

redirect created in a failed attempt to move from afc to main space. noq (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as db-g7 and tagged as such. The Whispering Wind (talk) 23:45, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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National Institute for Social Care and Health Research (NISCHR)



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 16:41, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → National Institute for Social Care and Health Research (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Not required, this is not a method of writing this organisation name ever used in the real world and is the result of an editor's error in article creation. The organisation may be found by either its full name or the initials. Both are never used together. Fiddle  Faddle  17:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - article created at this title so some plausibility as a search term. Entirely harmless so no WP:RFD grounds for deletion. The Whispering Wind (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was actually created at NISCHR. The redirect should still be kept as it is harmless, but I wanted to point something out.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 03:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah! What happened was that the original editor created the article, as you rightly say, at NISCHR but then 4 minutes later he created a duplicate at National Institute for Social Care and Health Research (NISCHR)! So I think my plausibility argument is still valid. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Plausible? Possibly, but 100% pointless, not that we are short of disk space. NISCHR already redirects to the full named article. By the time one has typed in the full article name one is unlikely to add (NISCHR) to it (and get it right!) and one will have found the article anyway with the predictive thingy Fiddle   Faddle  22:16, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, but folks don't tend to type in long names they also copy'n'paste and this is a common name formulation eg here, here and many others. But none of this is pivotal because it is harmless. Once created, we only delete redirects if they are some way harmful per WP:RFD. The Whispering Wind (talk) 00:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep per TWW. Not misleading, harmless, and a somewhat plausible search term anyway. No, it wouldn't do as a title, but it's fine as a redirect. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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Sports Reference



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Baseball-Reference.com (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Sports Reference owns both Baseball-Reference.com and Pro-Football-Reference.com, so there is no one clear topic.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 15:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:RFD, point 10. Nothing worthwhile at the target so we should encourage article creation. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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Sports Reference LLC



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Baseball-Reference.com (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Sports Reference owns both Baseball-Reference.com and Pro-Football-Reference.com, so there is no one clear topic.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 15:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:RFD, point 10. Nothing worthwhile at the target so we should encourage article creation. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:42, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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R/trees



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Reddit (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is a subreddit about marijuana. However, it is not a notable subreddit, and it isn't and won't mentioned at the target because there are no sources. While this was initially created as a standalone page, it would not survive an AfD and the redirect isn't likely, so I'm requesting deletion.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 15:16, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing relevant at the target so confusing to the reader. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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MacCain



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to McCain. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 00:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → John McCain (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

John McCain is not even the primary topic for McCain so why should be the primary topic for a mispelling?  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 15:12, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to McCain (disambiguation) McCain - plausible misspelling. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:25, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The dab page is actually McCain so it would need to redirect there.--174.95.109.219 (talk) 22:00, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but no. We link to pages with (disambiguation) in the title in such cases - see WP:INTDABLINK. The Whispering Wind (talk) 23:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Huh? That'd be a double redirect. From INTDABLINK: 174.95 is correct. —  PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  01:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Doh! You are of course both right; I think I was having a bad hair day! Thank you for your patient explanation. The Whispering Wind (talk) 14:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Belinda Carlisle (song)



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete. Ruslik_ Zero 19:04, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The page was moved to In Too Deep (Belinda Carlisle song) and later to its current status. I think it was created as "Belinda Carlisle (song)" as a mistake because there is no evidence this song is called or known by this name. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  05:00, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * → In Too Deep (Jenny Morris song) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Retarget to Belinda Carlisle discography as a potentially useful search term. The Whispering Wind (talk) 14:42, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, implausible search term unless someone thinks there's a song called "Belinda Carlisle". Siuenti (talk) 22:39, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per Siuenti. It's not unheard of for a song to share a name with its artist. They Might Be Giants have a self-titled song, and "Are You Jimmy Ray?" is close, but without evidence that Carlisle produced such a song, or that one of her other songs is commonly known as such, I really don't see this as a useful search term. --BDD (talk) 17:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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