Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 October 7

October 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 7, 2013.

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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 16:09, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Terminal emulator (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

not explained at the target page ï¿½ (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC) 
 * Keep. This is part of the Miscellaneous Technical group of characters, for which this document is the prime source.  This character appears at the very top of the penultimate page, which notes that the character is "only used for terminal emulation".  Nyttend (talk) 13:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Bracket, where it's mentioned, as it's unlikely to be in the Terminal emulator article. Miscellaneous Technical would also be an acceptable target. Peter&#160;James (talk) 21:35, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Peter James. The Unicode Standard, chapter 15 explains the purpose of this character. It is only used for terminal emulation but it is not itself important to the topic of terminal emulators. It should redirect to an article about brackets or Unicode where it is on topic. Gorobay (talk) 01:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. This redirect is just one of hundreds of symbols that redirect to their meanings, regardless of whether or not each has any mention on its target page (as likely most of these do not). For overall consistency, this one should as well.&emsp;&mdash;  | J  ~  Pæst  |   23:51, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that this symbol’s meaning is not ‘terminal emulator’. Gorobay (talk) 00:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Then what is its meaning? It is defined in Unicode as being "only used for terminal emulation".&emsp;&mdash;  | J  ~  Pæst  |   00:54, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It is just ‘][’ in vertical text in a single terminal cell (TUS, pg. 519). Gorobay (talk) 01:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm quite sure that this usage you are referring to is unofficial and not the intended purpose of the symbol. However, this usage is irrelevant anyway, as terminal emulation is nonetheless the defined, intentional, and official purpose of the symbol. Since redirection to the meaning of a symbol is always preferable over redirection to its Unicode block, the current target of this redirect is most appropriate.&emsp;&mdash;  | J  ~  Pæst  |   01:37, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This usage is described in The Unicode Standard, which I am quite sure is official. Terminal emulator as a target tells you it is somehow related to terminal emulators. Bracket gives its Unicode name. The latter is slightly more informative. Actually, both targets are pretty bad. This redirect should not have been created, but now we’re stuck with it. I would love to keep explaining Unicode trivia but this RfD is not the place for it. Gorobay (talk) 03:18, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep and remain targeted to Terminal emulator. I can see the good in both Gorobay's and  |  J  ~  Pæst  | 's arguments; however, since by definition, this symbol is, then ideally it should point to Terminal emulation.  Since Terminal emulation itself is a redirect that also targets Terminal emulator, this symbol should be kept as is. –   Paine Ellsworth   C LIMAX ! 16:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 21:01, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Retarget to Miscellaneous Technical Miscellaneous Technical. The purpose of a redirect is to assist the reader in finding information on the subject. Here, if someone wants to find out about the symbol, taking them to a page where it is not mentioned would simply leave them bemused. Bracket is a possible alternative retarget but my suggestion provides more information. The Whispering Wind (talk) 22:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The correct section is (2380–23BF) actually Ego White Tray (talk) 03:50, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I had a bad hair day yesterday! The Whispering Wind (talk) 14:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Right, the redirect should be to a page where the symbol is explained. How ironic that we have this redirect when horizontal bracket, horizontal square bracket, top square bracket, bottom square bracket and Bottom square bracket over top square bracket—all more likely search terms, discounting cut & paste searches—are all red links. Maybe this character should be as well. Unless someone wants to get to work writing an explanation, which I've only found at an external link. Wbm1058 (talk) 15:56, 8 October 2013 (UTC) Oh, and if the symbol only worked in terminal emulation, I don't think we would be talking about it here, as Wikipedia and my web browser clearly "support" the symbol and they aren't terminal emulation applications. So, if it isn't deleted, at least redirect to a page where a reader can at least search and find the symbol. Wbm1058 (talk) 16:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC) Just three pages link to this symbol: Bracket, Miscellaneous Technical and List of Unicode characters. All three of these pages simply show the symbol in a table, offering no further explanation. If we link back to one of these three pages, we will just create a circular reference link. Odd that there are no red links on these three pages – Wikipedia has a thorough explanation of usage for all unicode characters? I don't think so. Wbm1058 (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It's better than nothing; retargeting would at least provide the information that it's a combination of brackets, and not another symbol. The names are less likely search terms: why go from here to a Unicode lookup site then return here with the names, when the symbol can be found directly here? Peter&#160;James (talk) 21:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:11, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


 * → Computer (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete this redirect whose target is unrelated to Tamil. Gorobay (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - originally a stub article on 'Computer', written in Tamil, that was promptly retargeted to Computer. We only keep non-English redirects when they are the word for something related to a country that uses that language eg München is fine as a redirect for Munich. The Whispering Wind (talk) 22:33, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete since 'Computer' is not a unique term in the Tamil language-- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:58, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * delete WP:NOTDIC and the topic is not a primarily or originally Tamil subject -- 76.65.131.217 (talk) 23:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.