Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 September 16

September 16
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 16, 2013.

Cowboys Stadium → AT&T Stadium

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Speedy keep (non-admin closure). Procedural close. Article is not even a redirect. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 03:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → AT& (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Put Cowboys back in title, despite new deal. At least use CS in infobox call ATTS official title. Zoozle102 (talk) 00:48, 17 September 2013 (UTC) I recently found out about the team owner trying to rename the Dallas Cowboy stadium. He did succeed but it appear many fans were not too happy about it. I moved it back, but I really don't want to cause an edit war over this. I would, however, like some input as to how we should keep it on this site and whether or not it's good for the Cowboy fanbase. Zoozle102 (talk) 23:55, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong keep (actually "strong undo"), due to user vandalism (though possibly inadvertent) and misunderstanding of appropriate policies. No matter what certain pundits (or Wikipedians) may or may not think about "whether or not it's good for the Cowboy fanbase", whenever a naming-rights deal replaces the old name the deal usually prevails, not so much because of WP:OFFICIALNAMES as because it usually tends to replace the old name as WP:COMMONNAME, even if there's other stadiums with similar names (see the extensive hatnote on the article, which I just added to).  Without substantial evidence that broad English usage (NOT just a few pundits and/or complaining fans) insists on keeping the name "Cowboys Stadium" (unlikely thanks to its nicknames "Jerrydome", "Jerry's World" and the like), it should be "AT&T Stadium".  Furthermore, THIS user (a) moved the AT&T Stadium article BACK to Cowboys Stadium WITHOUT waiting for a response to this request, then (b) made edits to the redirect at AT&T Stadium that will require Wikipedia administrators to perform a CSD:G6 deletion on the redirect, then move it back to AT&T Stadium manually using WP:RM. --RBBrittain (talk) 02:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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Bassa Cove colony



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Buchanan, Liberia. --BDD (talk) 16:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → History of Liberia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

See WP:Articles for creation/Redirects. Article doesn't mention Bassa Cove at all. buffbills7701 20:20, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per my suggestion at WP:AFC/R. I only heard about it because I spoke with someone who's researching the topic; apparently the sources are out there to make an article, but I don't know where they are, so I can't write it.  Until someone writes one, make it a redlink, per the first bullet at WP:REDDEAL.  2001:18E8:2:1020:9CDC:817F:6050:F040 (talk) 20:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Buchanan, Liberia which seems to be the current successor to the Bassa Cove colony. I'll also note that when the redirect was created, there was information about the Bassa Cove colony in the history article.  See this version. -- Whpq (talk) 22:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Buchanan, Liberia - excellent research by Whpq. A redirect does not prevent an article being written but there is no evidence, as yet, of enough sources out there to justify its own page. Meanwhile, let's send readers to somewhere where they can find useful information. The Whispering Wind (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Buchanan, Liberia per Whpq. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Reply



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → Template:Talkback (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Redirect to Reply to, which is more relevant. TB is a better shortcut for Talkback, but we need "Reply" as shortcut of "Reply to". Tito ☸ Dutta 17:42, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Retarget for the new use. — This, that and the other (talk) 10:48, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Touch ID



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → Touch ID (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Created inadvertently. No reason to have a cross-namespace redirect for this. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to keep; redundant and not very useful. Jc86035 (talk) 14:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Exactly, unnecessary redirect. -- Tito ☸ Dutta 08:55, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Touch ID (iPhone)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → Touch ID (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Created inadvertently. No reason to have a cross-namespace redirect for this. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 14:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to keep; redundant and not very useful. Jc86035 (talk) 14:47, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unnecessary redirect. -- Tito ☸ Dutta 08:56, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:IPhone 5S



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * → IPhone 5s (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Created inadvertently. No reason to have a cross-namespace redirect for this. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 14:44, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reason to keep; redundant and not very useful. Jc86035 (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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Yutaka Kobayashi



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 * The result of the discussion was disambiguate. WJBscribe (talk) 01:37, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Should both be deleted. There are at least two real world people by the name "Yutaka Kobayashi" who are more notable than this minor character from Megatokyo. — Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 13:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * → List of Megatokyo characters (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * → List of Megatokyo characters (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Evidently these are also among the redirects created by banned user Tyciol that led to his initial indefinite block.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 18:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In which case this is the wrong venue for them. The correct venue is speedy deletion under criterion G5. What I will say is this; Kobayashi Yutaka is an implausible typo, Yutaka Kobayashi - if there are at least two entries who are notable enough for an encyclopedia besides this one - should probably be made a disambiguation page out of.-- Laun  chba  ller  19:13, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * They were created before the ban.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 19:41, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Commment Kobayashi Yutaka is not implausible or a typo, opinions vary as to how Japanese names should be ordered, so redirects should cater for both possibilities. Siuenti (talk) 22:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It should not redirect to this section on a minor fictional character when a living actor and a living politician are known by this name.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 13:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep If we don't have articles on the actor or politician, I think these are fine for now. If articles existed for those subjects, I'd say retarget for sure. --BDD (talk) 16:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's a legitimate target for a redirect which only requires being mentioned. It's just a small inconvenience to someone writing an article on the other topics. Siuenti (talk) 21:48, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete both: readers looking, for instance, at Masashi_Mito article are not supposed to be redirected to the list minor fictional characters when they click at Yutaka Kobayashi link. What keepers said above is just a nonsense. Ruslik_ Zero 19:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, what that really means is that that shouldn't be a wikilink. All the more reason for someone to go and rewrite these redirects with an article. Someone looking for the politician will be disappointed either way as things stand; at least by keeping the redirects, we serve those looking for the characters. --BDD (talk) 00:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete and in other appropriate articles such as Akira Matsu and Yoriko Kawaguchi, as well as the already mentioned Masashi Mito article; there may be several other articles that could be linked to either or both of these redirect titles.  D10 –   Paine Ellsworth   C LIMAX ! 20:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Whispering Wind (talk) 23:25, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate then write articles for notable persons called "Yutaka Kobayashi". --Love Krittaya (talk) 08:37, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment I've created a disambiguation link to Kanagawa At-large district (House of Councillors) which seems to have the most information about the politician. Unfortunately the online sources seem to be offline so I can't make a stub at the moment. Anyone is free to expand into an article or to add other notable people of the same name (Japanese WP has several). I'm not sure if it's best to update incoming links to Yutaka Kobayashi (politician). Siuenti (talk) 13:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
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