Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 December 10

December 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 10, 2014.

History ofclub penguin



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * History ofclub penguin → Club Penguin (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nobody is ever going to search on or link to this. Mogism (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, we don't have History of club penguin itself, so this typo is unhelpful - TheChampionMan1234 02:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per TCM1234 -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:24, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per the Champ. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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Globe 199



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

This is an in-game concept (technically, a spell cast by a specific enemy in this game) that is not mentioned in the target article. So, delete per WP:NOTWIKIA. Steel1943 (talk) 22:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Globe 199 → Final Fantasy IV (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Globe199 → Final Fantasy IV (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Globe199&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Delete per nom. Most of my top hits is from certain x99 phone plans from Globe Telecom -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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Gate Panic! (video game)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. I'm inclined to agree with SnowFire, and I'm concerned that the lack of sources means we're promoting a false name for the game. --BDD (talk) 15:11, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Gate Panic! (video game) → Popeye (video game) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

The user [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Popeye_%28video_game%29&diff=630126235&oldid=630125223 has added] the following to the list of platforms in Popeye (video game):


 * Sega Master System (unofficial, known as "Gate Panic! (ゲート·パニック！))

However, there are no reliable sources that confirm existence (leave alone notability) of this version; actually, I tried to google for it and couldn't find any sources at all. DmitTrix (talk) 20:12, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

P. S.: Please also check NATSUME 3 by the same user. DmitTrix (talk) 20:18, 18 October 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * keep very common name, everyone knows they're the same thing, don't delete!!!!!72.24.156.34 (talk) 10:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Delete if everyone knows they're the same, then surely it'll be extremely easy to add the alternate title to the article with a reference, then restore the redirect. SnowFire (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
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Plowback retained earnings



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 15:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Plowback retained earnings → Retained earnings (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This recently created redirect is an implausible search term—given its length—that consists of two legitimate names of the target put together for no apparent purpose and should be deleted. It has no history worth preserving, no incoming links, and even if someone were to type "plowback retained earnings" into the search box after the redirect is deleted, what they were looking for would come up at the very top of the list. The redirect fails to satisfy any of the reasons for creating and maintaining redirects (an editing guideline) and it also violates WP:POVNAME (a policy) which states that "[a]rticle titles and redirects should anticipate what readers will type as a first guess" and the first guess in this case would clearly be either Plowback, or Retained earnings, both of which already exist.

The above may not be immediately clear if you're unfamiliar with the term retained earnings, so allow me to put forth the following analogous examples of hypothetical redirects: Fridge refrigerator, Tap faucet, Water dihydrogen monoxide, Dictionary lexicon. Plowback retained earnings is no different than these four, and allowing it to stay would set a bad precedent.

I think I should mention that I had a short dialogue with the creator of this redirect that you may want to read to better inform your judgment before commenting. Iaritmioawp (talk) 09:47, 18 October 2014 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete - they're not exactly the same thing, more like Refrigerator refrigeration, but close enough that we would never have two separate articles (and we don't; plowback redirects to retained earnings) but it seems unlikely someone would type both into the search box. If they did, they'd find what they're looking for anyway. Ivanvector (talk) 19:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per WilyD's comment on the nominator's talk page; it may be implausible, but that doesn't meant that it's not useful. Steel1943  (talk) 14:56, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * useful how? looks useless to me72.24.156.34 (talk) 11:00, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Sentencing guidelines



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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close. I've created a stub; until it's much expanded, it's probably going to work as a dab. --BDD (talk) 15:09, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Sentencing guidelines → United States Federal Sentencing Guidelines (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Sentencing guidelines exist in places other than the U.S.; presumably they also exist within the U.S. at levels other than the federal. – Arms &amp; Hearts (talk) 12:19, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * disambiguate I can't immediately find articles about other sentencing guidelines but we do have Sentencing Guidelines Council and its successor Sentencing Council in the UK. Thryduulf (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * There's probably an article to be had here. A dab is probably doable, but it could look a bit forced. Maybe just a stub with a sentence or two about what sentencing guidelines are, and mention the US and UK bodies that govern them? --BDD (talk) 15:01, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This is a simple keep unless anyone wants to make it a stub/dab page, which they don't need an RfD to do. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:52, 10 November 2014 (UTC).

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 * disambiguate clearly this is biased, as sentencing guidelines exist in many jurisdictions -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * dabify with Thryduulf's suggestions. A bit unwieldy but I think it's better than the present status. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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Final Fantasy 3.5



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Final Fantasy 3.5 → Final Fantasy IV (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Final Fantasy IV Prototype → Final Fantasy IV (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Final_Fantasy_IV_Prototype&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This "title" was a rumored video game that was possibly going to be made before the redirect's target's subject, but all searches that I made for this title do not show any valid notability claims. But, from what I found, this redirect's title does not refer to its target. Also, there is no mention of the redirect's title in the target article. And, from a search on a popular search engine, the redirect's title could also refer to something related to Dungeons & Dragons, but I'm not finding any immediately clear retargeting options. Steel1943 (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: I added Final Fantasy IV Prototype to this nomination since that term specifically refers to the subject "Final Fantasy 3.5" and is not mentioned in the target article. Steel1943  (talk) 20:04, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * D&D? Maybe someone made a D&D 3.5 campaign in the Final Fantasy world. Not sure why else the term would return D&D results. (Also, I so want to play that.) --BDD (talk) 21:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Link to article on D&D Wiki. Steel1943  (talk) 22:01, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom's findings.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:40, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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History ofinformation technology auditing



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 * The result of the discussion was keep as longstanding, a former page name, and only a weak typo. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * History ofinformation technology auditing → History of information technology auditing (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Improbable, pointless and completely unused redirect which has somehow survived since 2005 Mogism (talk) 19:30, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep/weak delete (I'm not sure which side I am more of) somewhat plausible. - TheChampionMan1234 02:47, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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Dragon Warrior



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. Dragon Warrior (video game) already redirects to Dragon Quest (video game), so I just retargeted Dragon Warrior to Dragon Quest. -- Beland (talk) 14:40, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Dragon Warrior → Dragon Quest (video game) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This discussion's purpose is to determine a primary topic for this term. My mind is split between three options, all of which I am neutral: "keep" (the first game in the Dragon Quest series is the primary topic), "retarget to Dragon Quest" (the video game series is the primary topic), or "move Dragon Warrior (disambiguation) to Dragon Warrior" (there is no primary topic). Steel1943 (talk) 17:37, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. All basic searches show the first title in the series to be the expected result for "Dragon Warrior", though it might be worth directly mentioning the series in the hatnote. Eye close font awesome.svg czar ⨹   17:49, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Move to Dragon Warrior (video game) and redirect to Dragon Quest (video game). Then, after renaming, redirect "Dragon Warrior" to Dragon Quest franchise. If you are unsure, don't hesitate to ask me. --George Ho (talk) 22:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Wrong forum Please someone close this, please discuss it at WP:RM - TheChampionMan1234 02:43, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't a move request. One of the options could result in a move, but that's just because WP:DABNAME exists. Steel1943  (talk) 02:56, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Move and retarget per George Ho. If both the game and series are known as Dragon Warrior, the disambiguators should follow those of the articles. --BDD (talk) 14:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I read the request as making things look like this. -- Beland (talk) 14:40, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Dragon Warrior (video game) -> Dragon Quest (video game)
 * Dragon Warrior -> Dragon Quest
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CTY Parent



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * CTY Parent → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nothing titled "CTY Parent" was ever mentioned in the target article. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:59, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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Association of Lawyers in Government Corporation



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:47, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Association of Lawyers in Government Corporation → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nothing of a kind is mentioned in the target article (not in current revision, not in any older revision ). Vanjagenije (talk) 12:55, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as unexplained redirect. Google search gave me 13 hits, none of which gives further information about this organization. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:19, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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Gotanco



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Gotanco → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

No "Gotanco" is mentioned in the article (not in current revision, not in any old revision ). Vanjagenije (talk) 12:53, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This seems to be an uncommon surname and I also can't a suitable new target within the wiki.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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Pearlasia Gamboa (president of Melchizedek)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. -- Beland (talk) 14:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Pearlasia Gamboa (president of Melchizedek) → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Highly improbable term for searching "Pearlasia Gamboa". totally useless redirect. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Somewhat unlikely search term, but accurate and unambiguous. --BDD (talk) 14:50, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * keep per BDD -- Lenticel ( talk ) 07:13, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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World Karate Competition
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Karate World Championships. --BDD (talk) 14:45, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * World Karate Competition → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nothing about karate is even mentioned in the target article. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Karate World Championships. I can't find a connection with the present target, but someone searching for this will not be in the least astonished if they end up at an article about a world-wide competition in karate. Thryduulf (talk) 13:31, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Karate World Championships per Thryduulf -- Lenticel  ( talk ) 00:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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<span id="Pearlie (Pearlasia Gamboa)">Pearlie (Pearlasia Gamboa)
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:43, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Pearlie (Pearlasia Gamboa) → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is highly unusual search term for "Pearlasia Gamboa". It is not useful at all. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:48, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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Kobuto
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Kobuto → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Nothing titled "Kobuto" is mentioned in the target article (not now, not in the old revisions before recent edits ). Vanjagenije (talk) 12:47, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete due to the association not being clear, but since the redirect might have the option of being retargeted. I am not sure if this redirect is a good candidate for retargeting as an R from misspelling to any other article due to there being at least two articles which this may be a misspelling (Kabuto or Kobudō), though Google believes that "kobuto" is a misspelling for the former example, Kabuto. Either way, I oppose "keep"ing the redirect. Steel1943  (talk) 15:44, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete it seems to be an location in Sierra Leone. This is probably better off as a redlink-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:16, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Google believes this to be a mispelling of "Kabuto", so if we keep this, it should redirect to Kabuto (disambiguation). -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 05:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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International crimes of Beverly Hills
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:42, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * International crimes of Beverly Hills → Pearlasia Gamboa (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I don't understand the point of this redirect. It is too vague. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:46, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete since I cannot find a good option for retargeting. Steel1943  (talk) 22:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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<span id="Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle (2007) by Maria Andrianova">Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle (2007) by Maria Andrianova
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 14:41, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle (2007) by Maria Andrianova → Angel of Music, or The Private Life of Giselle (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unlikely search term MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:14, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete due to having so much extra disambiguation that searching this term is very unlikely. Steel1943  (talk) 03:48, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Struck out my vote given that the redirect is 7 years old. So, I'm neutral. Steel1943  (talk) 03:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. Completely harmless 7-year-old . While it is "unlikely" that is not a reason to delete a redirect, this is not incorrect or misleading. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep quite long but otherwise harmless redirect.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak keep the name is mentioned in several places, by the way, my opinion is independent from the above two votes. (i.e. I do not have an opinion on the other two opinions above) - TheChampionMan1234 02:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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