Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 27

February 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 27, 2014.

Heimskr



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. The (justified) criticism has been met by the addition of a mention of this character to the target. The consensus is to keep. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:52, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Heimskr → The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I still haven't played Skyrim, but since the subject isn't mentioned at the target page, I'm guessing Heimskr is a minor element in the game. I came across this redirect after looking for "Heimskur," an Icelandic concept (ref). I don't know if it could plausibly be spelled this way, or if it's even worth an article, but regardless, this redirect doesn't seem helpful. BDD (talk) 23:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep BDD, you don't seem to know anything about TES Universe. Heimskr is one of the most hated characters in all the games, and, yes, he's in Skyrim. He cries and cries and is insanely annoying.  So, when people say "who is that guy?" and don't know about TESWiki, where I edit a lot as Ned1230, then they look on here, and are redirected to Skyrim.  Here's a link [elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Heimskr].[Oh yeah, by the way, it's Nedgreiner, I just forgot to login. [Special:Contributions/71.191.219.112|71.191.219.112]] (talk) 11:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a bit harsh, don't you think? I've played Morrowind and Oblivion obsessively. I don't know much about Skyrim, but I've already admitted as much. --BDD (talk) 17:16, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Heimskr is a well-known NPC in Skyrim and and everyone who follows the main quest will encounter his religious raving on the Talos controversy. While likely not notable, the character is verifiable and the search term is plausible. --Mark viking (talk) 20:09, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * But Mark, if he isn't mentioned at the article, all we're really saying is "Heimskr has something to do with Skyrim." How many readers searching for this term do you suppose will not already know that? --BDD (talk) 17:16, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, no information about this topic in Wikipedia, no reason to confuse people. Siuenti (talk) 21:29, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't play video games at all, but if this is a character however minor and there is no better target then it does no harm to keep it, assuming that it is in the game at the target. The personal remarks against BDD were harsh and unwarranted. Si Trew (talk) 10:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep can someone find the voice actor for this guy (the Skyrim Wikia doesn't have it) and then add his entry to The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim? I'm pretty sure his voice is very notable in-game. Besides, doing so would at least justify the redirect even better. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:14, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That would be good, because then he'd be mentioned on the target page, at least. His voice actor isn't listed on IMDB either, though there are several voice actors without roles specified. The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages wiki has him in a category suggesting he's voiced by one of the usual male Nord voice actors. Does that sound right? --BDD (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I did some digging at it seems that Michael Gough blessed us with the annoying voice of Talos. The ref is IMDB though an our article's entry has no Skyrim reference as well-- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:55, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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Аргентина



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Аргентина → Argentina (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Argentina does not use Cyrillic. Gorobay (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete not Spanish, nor a Native American language; a redirect in a language that is not related to Argentina. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 21:15, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although there are many Languages of Argentina, the only one of those that uses Cyrillic is Russian and that gets only a passing mention which is not nearly significant enough to warrant this redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 23:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - unambiguously directs readers to the subject they're looking for. No argument has been made to support deletion. Wily D  10:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete unless we are going to institute Cyrillic redirects to every article on the English Wikipedia. There is absolutely no reason for this redirect to exist. --MelanieN (talk) 16:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Arguments have been made to support deletion and I don't know why WilyD keeps trotting out that "No argument has been made to support deletion" when WilyD means "I disagree with the argument for deletion", patently arguments have been made for deletion.
 * Argentina does not use Cyrillic and my guess would be a person in Russia or Serbia that does use Cyrillic will be using the Russian or Serbian Wikipedia. Even a tourist in Argentina who uses a Cyrillic alphabet will surely go to their own language's Wikipedia. The article is properly Interwiki linked here at RU:WP and here at RUE.WP for example, so as an outsider typing those terms into an external search engine they are likely to find a couple written in Cyrillic, and if they then really want to come to the English Wikipedia then they can do so via the Interwiki links on the left hand side, as Thryduulf implies, otherwise we end up adding redirects to every possible article in Cyrillic... and then do so for Arabic and Sanskrit and Bopomofo and Devangari and ancient English Runic and Morse Code and so on... which is absurd. Si Trew (talk) 10:36, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 04:43, 10 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago → List of Prime Ministers of Trinidad and Tobago (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This page should have a full article about the office of state, rather than a redirect to a list. LukeSurlt c 18:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK per nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 20:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:REDLINK suggest one should create links to future articles rather than delete existing redirects to make them. -- 签名 sig  at  05:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep When there's enough content to make Officeholder of Foo and List of Officeholders of Foo articles, great. But otherwise, it's perfectly common practice to have redirects like this. For example, Governor of West Virginia redirects to List of Governors of West Virginia, a featured list (an RM to move it to Governor of West Virginia failed last year). That page has information about the office as well as a list of its holders, and there's no reason this one can't as well. I'm usually supportive of REDLINK deletions, but here, it would just remove a perfectly likely search term. --BDD (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Such redirects are called "Redirects with possibilities". It's ok to convert the redirect to an article, no need to delete it for that. In the meantime, List of Prime Ministers of Trinidad and Tobago is the best place to start getting some information on the office. -- 签名 sig  at  05:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as perfectly plausible search term and sensible target in the absence of an article of its own. Si Trew (talk) 11:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per BDD. --MelanieN (talk) 16:48, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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АПРОТ



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * АПРОТ → AP.9 (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. I can’t find anything to suggest “АПРОТ” is related to AP.9, and even if it is, the rapper in question has no connection with any Cyrillic-using languages. Gorobay (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete gansta rapper born and raised in California. Cyrillic not indicated in the article as having any affinity for this person. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment the title "АПРОТ" appears to be a endrun around sanctions ( AP.9 was salted in 2010 and AP.9 (rapper) was "salted" in 2013, the creator of this page (subsequently moved to AP.9 (rap artist), then moved to AP.9) copied the content from the protected-redirect . The current content at AP.9 itself is a copypaste of material from AFC that has been refused twice Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AP.9 -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Update the page history of AP.9 (rapper) has been histmerged into AP.9 -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 00:31, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per 70.50. Si Trew (talk) 11:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment The AP.9 article is being considered for deletion at Articles for deletion/AP.9 (2nd nomination). It has been suggested there that it be redirect to Mob Figaz where AP.9 (rap artist) has redirected since yesterday. Thryduulf (talk) 15:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Weird redirect; there is no way anyone is going to use this for a search term. --MelanieN (talk) 16:43, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Navika Kotia



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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close - converted to an article and so no longer within RfD's scope. Anyone may nominate it for AfD if they believe it should be deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 15:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Navika Kotia → English Vinglish (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete: Not in accordance with purpose of Redirect (Closest is, Sub-topics or other topics which are described or listed within a wider article). The target article doesn't discuss the Redirect in detail. Redirect find its mention only twice, once as  Sapna (Navika Kotia) in plot section and other as, Navika Kotia as Sapna in the Cast section of the article. And, It probably falls under the #5 Reasons for deletion (The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting Apple to Orange). Anupmehra - Let's talk!  13:29, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete she has various roles mentioned in WP articles, no need to single out this one. Siuenti (talk) 17:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep: Recently i've added info and references. Babita arora  08:58, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Since you've turned the redirect into an article, I recommend speedy close as out-of-scope for RFD. Siuenti (talk) 11:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Shat



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 * The result of the discussion was dabify. --BDD (talk) 17:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Shat → wiktionary:Special:Search/shat (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This page is unnecessary. The subject does not seem notable enough to deserve an entire article redirecting to Wiktionary. The page view statistics show that the article never received more than 20 hits per day. There are no real reason for keeping this article.  KJ  click here  10:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep . Notability does not apply to redirects. There are a lot of other Wiktionary redirects that get fewer hits than this one, but that is no reason to delete them all. Regardless of how many hits this page gets, if a user does search for "shat" on Wikipedia at all, I think it's a good idea to redirect them to the Wiktionary entry to avoid confusing the reader with hundreds of results, none of which is relevant (see Redirects for discussion). Smtchahal (talk) 11:10, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Moving to disambiguate per WillyD. Seems reasonable. Smtchahal (talk) 11:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per Smtchahal. 20 hits a month is a lot for a redirect, let alone 20 hits a day. Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per WilyD. Thryduulf (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, people might be looking for Al Shat, the Libyan football team, or The Shat, William Shatner. Siuenti (talk) 17:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That would be a reason to disambiguate, not to delete. Wily D 19:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambig - actually, the point is well taken, this should either be redirected to Shit, or disambiguated between Al Shat, T J Hooker, and Shit, plus maybe other terms? Wily D 19:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per WilyD -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 21:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per WilyD, 70.50. It may also be used as the past tense of "shot" or "shut", even if incorrectly or in dialect, Old English strong vowels in verbs tend to vary that way at least in the United Kingdom, although WP:DICDEF of course. Si Trew (talk) 11:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
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Numerical cipher
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 March 10%23Numerical cipher

Delicious delicacies



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:13, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delicious delicacies → History of Firefox (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Reference to a single line of text on beta version(s) of Firefox that was a joke, doesn't serve a encyclopedic purpose and isn't noteworthy Elassint  Hi 06:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete there are many delicious delicacies, and Firefox isn't one of them, since it isn't edible. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 08:05, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I won't expect a lot of people to look up "delicious delicacies" on Wikipedia if they were looking for Mozilla Firefox. Smtchahal (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete for the reasons stated above. Si Trew (talk) 09:54, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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