Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 9

February 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 9, 2014.

Good enough software



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 20:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Good enough software → Principle of good enough (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Apparently only used to promote a WP:NOT/WP:NOT article. Be..anyone (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Unless I've misunderstood, the promoting part aside, that sounds like a problem with the article and not the redirect. How does this redirect "promote" the target, it looks like nothing other then a perfectly plausible redirect to me. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:50, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems like anyone searching for this term is looking for the article they get directed to. Wily D 09:35, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Thanks
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 18%23Wikipedia:Thanks

Pepsi Coliseum



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Pepsi Arena. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 06:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Pepsi Coliseum → Fairgrounds Coliseum (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Pepsi Coliseum should be redirected to the arena in Quebec now (Colisée Pepsi), because the arena in Indianapolis is a) not currently in operation, being closed for renovation, and b) doesn't have Pepsi in its name anymore p  b  p  22:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate or retarget per nom -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 07:37, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab Pepsi Arena, which includes "Pepsi Coliseum" uses as well (though a split might be a good idea there). --BDD (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to the dab Pepsi Arena, which includes "Pepsi Coliseum" uses as well. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:56, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Kaiperambalur



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Kaiperambalur → Kai Perambalur (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Useless redirect. Stefan2 (talk) 19:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * At 14:33, 8 February 2014‎ I obeyed a request to history-merge Kaiperambalur to Kai Perambalur. Later someone copy-and-pasted Kai Perambalur to Kaiperambalur. At 19:24, 9 February 2014‎ I history-merged this new Kaiperambalur to Kai Perambalur, and then moved Kai Perambalur to Kaiperambalur. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, a user moved Kai Perambalur to Kaiperambalur using Special:MovePage and then moved it back using copy and paste move. When I noticed that, I requested a histmerge. Today, it turned out that it had been moved to Kaiperambalur again, this time as a copy & paste move. I do not see why anyone would look for an article about a location like this in the Wikipedia namespace, so I don't think that a redirect from there is needed. It is true that the article was in the Wikipedia namespace for a couple of days, but there were probably not many who noticed this.
 * There was also an additional change from Kai Perambalur to Kaiperambalur. Google Maps displays the place as "Kaiperambalur" but accepts "Kai Perambalur" as identical when typed in in the search box. Bing Maps displays the place as "Kai Perambalur" but also accepts searches for "Kaiperambalur". Therefore, I would assume that both names are valid and that we should choose one of them and have a redirect from the other one, as we currently do. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:28, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Not needed. Tito ☸ Dutta 01:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt clearly this is being abusively recreated. -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 07:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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Atomic Energy Commission investigation of John F. Kennedy assassination evidence
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 19%23Atomic Energy Commission investigation of John F. Kennedy assassination evidence

"Next generation consoles" redirects



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. WJBscribe (talk) 21:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Next generation (video game consoles) → History of video game consoles (eighth generation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Next_generation_(video_game_consoles)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Upcoming Xbox console → History of video game consoles (eighth generation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Upcoming_Xbox_console&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Comparison of next-generation game consoles → History of video game consoles (seventh generation) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_next-generation_game_consoles&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

These redirects are speculative and subject to WP:CRYSTAL. Wikipedia is not a source for speculation, and we don't know if there will be any next generation consoles ("next generation" referring to the generation following the current). See also the RFD for "Next gen consoles". Hey mid  (contribs) 13:49, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 *  Keep Retarget/Delete/Neutral Keep retarget the first one to History of video games, delete the second one, neutral on the third. We can have sourced material about the next generation, and the history article would be the appropriate place for it. If that sourced material includes comparisons and are in our article, then the third one is reasonable. The second redirect, about the Xbox is not reasonable, that requires WP:CRYSTAL knowledge that the next Xbox will be called Xbox and will exist. However, new videogame consoles are always being produced, so the first one isn't very crystal, since we should be able to find sourced material to support some new iteration of something. -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 07:53, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My point is, we don't know about the future. For example, we don't know whether Sony is currently working on a new console, a PlayStation 5, and/or a new handheld etc. I believe it's not Wikipedia's duty to speculate about the future. I also feel that the term "next generation" is too subjective; some refer to it as the current generation of consoles (the eighth), others refer to it as the future generation of consoles (the ninth). Hey  mid  (contribs) 09:04, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The right place to point "next generation" and "comparison" would be History of video games. Whatever someone's subjective view of what next generation means, it'll be part of that article. Whether the next gen is PS4 or next revision Ouya, it's part of the history of videogaming. Sorry about being unclear as to what I was meaning on the first redirect. -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 12:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous outcome of Next gen consoles. --BDD (talk) 17:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Page titles with "next" or "upcoming" in are never a good idea as inevitably they will soon become out-of-date. 5.70.112.176 (talk) 22:45, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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 Rîbnița sub-district, Transnistria 
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 February 19%23Rîbniţa sub-district, Transnistria

Canny (attribute)
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Italian immigration to Italy
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Oh my goodness gracious
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