Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 January 10

January 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 10, 2014.

Rubbin's Racin'



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 * The result of the discussion was Deleted. Test page created as first edit by now blocked disruptive account. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Rubbin's Racin' → Romper Room (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Inappropriate redirect - no apparent link to target. Literally the only Google record which contains the two phrases is [http://www.rubbins-racin.com/forums/showthread.php/13281-The-BASHING-and-MOANING-stops-now!-KEEP-IT-CONSTRUCTIVE! here] - where Rubbin's Racin' is the name of the forum and Romper Room is the name of a specific thread. Hence, I recommend deletion. Acather96 (click here to contact me) 21:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Romper Room is a term for chaos, but here it's a kid's show, as it should be. No appropriate way to redirect this.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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Monster hunter2



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Monster hunter2 → Monster Hunter 2 (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This odd redirect should be deleted. It seems to only exist because somebody mistakenly tried to write an article at this title instead of "Monster Hunter 2". —Kodiologist (t) 14:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Plausible search term for "Monster Hunter 2". --Randykitty (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep plausible misspelling.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, per above. "Odd redirects" often help our readers find articles. Joefromrandb (talk) 14:47, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - missing the spacebar is a very plausibletypo. Wily D 09:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
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Nature Climate Change



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 * The result of the discussion was delete.  WJBscribe (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Nature Climate Change → Nature (journal) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Misleading redirect. Nature Climate Change is a different journal than Nature, even though it's from the same publisher. Maintaining the redirect means that links to NCC will turn up as bluelinks, significantly reducing the probability that editors will realize that this article needs to be created. Randykitty (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

not mentioned in target article; list of Nature Publishing Group's publications is rather long &mdash; rybec   02:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete per WP:REDLINK. Thryduulf (talk) 22:42, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete per WP:REDLINK. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK seems good. The Whispering Wind (talk) 21:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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Jillian Harris



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 * The result of the discussion was moot. Redirect was converted into an article, and therefore is now outside of RfD's close. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 14:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Jillian Harris → The Bachelorette (season 5) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

convert to stub I didn't notice this went to AfD in 2009 as a redirect to Bachlorette season 5 (2009), so I converted the redirect into a stub article. I'm not sure if this should be discussed at RfD or AfD. If it is to be at AfD, someone please convert the nomination. I converted this to a stub article, because to me, her name should redirect to Canada's Handyman Challenge as the host of the 2012 season 1. However, she also a big part of Love It or List It Vancouver 2013 season, ... so there are three plausible articles to redirect her to. Therefore, a stub article ended up being created. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

70.50.148.122 created an article, then promptly added an AfD tag, with the edit summary "didn't see the nom, so renom this". I've removed the AfD tag. &mdash; rybec   02:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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The UK Trams Portal



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The UK Trams Portal → Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * The uk trams portal → Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [ history] • )    [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

These are the only portal redirects starting with 'The', which we typically avoid for content. UK Trams Portal and Uk trams portal already exist. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Succession Box



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Succession Box → WikiProject Succession Box Standardization (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

WP:CNR to WikiProject, which has very short shortcut WP:SBS. Low pageviews. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

This had no on-wiki links, nor is it documented in the shortcut area on the target page. &mdash; rybec   05:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:XNR -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 05:46, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. No mainspace reader should ever be exposed to such a redirect into our engine room. -DePiep (talk) 13:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Cross-namespace redirect out of article space, per WP:RFD.5 -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:50, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. The target is useful only to editors already familiar with succession boxes and templates, so there is no need for a CNR. That is not sufficient on its own though to delete a redirect, even if it is cross namespace. However an ehow page that trips the spam blacklist (search for "how to decorate a succession box" as an exact phrase) and report that there is a type of small decorative object called a succession box, and  notes it as part of an early fire alarm system which is backed up by a 1932 patent for an improved one . If reliable sources can be found then I believe the decorative box at least would deserve an article at this title ("succession box" in the Wikipedia meaning is massively used on other wikis though so finding relevant sources for other uses is not trivial), so this redirect is probably in the way of encyclopaedic content which is a reason to delete. I explicitly do not endorse the nominator's comments about the existence of another shortcut as valid reason for deletion, but the existence of Succession box is the reason I'm advocating deletion here rather than a move into project space. Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
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Project Russia



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 * The result of the discussion was Project Russia (books) moved. --BDD (talk) 22:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Project Russia → WikiProject Russia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

WP:CNR to WikiProject without term 'WikiProject' in the name. As far as I can see, this is the only one with 'Project x' naming. This naming feels too much like a searcher will assume it is a title of a real thing. I wouldnt be surprised if there are several real things called 'Project Russia'. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Move Project Russia (books) over it and add hat notes about the Discovery Institute (Real Russia Project redirects to it) and Timeline of largest projects in the Russian economy (Russian projects redirects to it). That is, unless there are still more articles with similar names. &mdash; rybec   05:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate per findings above -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 05:46, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with rybec re moving Project Russia (books) to Project Russia, as this CNR has caused that page to be prematurely disambiguated. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:41, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Move per Rybec. —  Scott  •  talk  11:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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List of RHPs progress



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * List of RHPs progress → WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Progress (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

WP:CNR created in 2013 to a wikiproject work tracking page, which has shortcut WP:NRHPPROGRESS, matching the wikiproject shortcut WP:NRHP. Anyone who unintentionally follows this redirect ends up on a very large page which is slow to load and scroll. The redirect does receive a decent number of pageviews. If it is a few users regularly using it, maybe they would be happy if it is moved to a shorter shortcut like WP:NRHPP or WP:NRHP/P. John Vandenberg (chat) 04:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Implausible name for a shortcut. Since this is in mainspace, we have a standard for XNR naming, and this one is below. ~(btw, since WP:NRHPPROGRESS has 203 hits in 2013-11, we can seriously doubt the meaning of both "shortcut" and "is used" statements: not plausible for this name). -DePiep (talk) 12:39, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete XNR; proper shortcut already exists -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 00:08, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, irregular and implausible. —  Scott  •  talk  11:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Batter (cooking) (redirect)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:47, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Batter (cooking) (redirect) → Batter (cooking) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unnecessary redirect, don't see a point TheChampionMan1234 03:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a discussion at Legoktm's talk page about these. The creator said they would only be used for 90 days. However, this one was created in May 2013. These could be documented with an edit summary or with HTML comments. &mdash; rybec   03:44, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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O Rei



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. WJBscribe (talk) 22:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * O Rei → Pelé (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Disambiguation page should be created because Eusébio is also known as "o Rei". BenficaNNossaPaixao (talk) 05:21, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. Rei (given name) has been made. I've added a hat note to Pelé, for now. Could people who search for "o Rei" be looking for O Rei do Gado? &mdash; rybec   05:44, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Maybe but they should type "gado". BenficaNNossaPaixao (talk) 06:17, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I've created O Rei do Futebol as a disambiguation page. I'm not saying people searching for "o Rei" should be routed through it. &mdash; rybec   00:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * At Talk:O Rei do Futebol, has left a comment implying that Pelé is the primary topic. &mdash;  rybec   02:07, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Most media outlets (and I believe most people) know Eusébio primarily if not by his first name, by the nickname "Pantera Negra" (Black Panther). The "rei do futebol" (king of football) moniker has way stronger association to Pelé than any other player. X X X antiuser eh? 04:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Having O Rei and O Rei do Futebol both redirect to Pelé with a hatnote to Eusébio is fine; it's essentially a WP:TWODABS situation. --BDD (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
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IX Air Service Command



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * IX Air Service Command → IX Tactical Air Command (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete Page. The IX Air Service Command is a different unit (later designated IX Air Force Service Command). It was a support command, not an operational command. The IX Tactical Air Command article does not address support units of Ninth Air Force. There is no article on IX Air Force Service Command. Lineagegeek (talk) 22:31, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Concur Bwmoll3 (talk) 23:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
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