Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 January 24

January 24
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 24, 2014.

Mosques near the World Trade Center



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Mosques near the World Trade Center → Park51 controversy (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is not a rational search term, seems to be merely a WP:POVPUSH by notorious Conservapedia admin Ed Poor. jps (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep or retarget to Park51. Last I checked, a redirect creator's other online interests are not a valid reason for deletion, and this seems like a rational search term to me. A reader looking for information about this topic will not necessarily know that center is called "Park51", nor are they likely to know about Wikipedia's tendency to label things a "controversy", so a search like this is quite possibly how they will start looking. 172.9.22.150 (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "Mosques"? Plural? You can check the stats and explain how this month's peak at 4 hits per day is indicating that this is a popular search term. jps (talk) 22:29, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * This is actually a tricky one. Here are the arguments I'd make for each position:
 * Keep: While this is indeed a misnomer, this sort of POV redirect is explicitly allowed under WP:RNEUTRAL. This is definitely a topic which has been "represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms." No, I'm not aware of anyone claiming Park51 was somehow multiple mosques, but I'm not going to say delete due to one extra letter.
 * Delete: Whatever the creator's intent, this redirect began life as a list of mosques near the World Trade Center, which seems WP:SYNTHy, or at least too esoteric to stand as an article. If it was going to redirect anywhere, this is the most logical target, but I can't help but thinking anyone using it will be mislead to read about a proposed building that sort of contains a mosque sort of near the World Trade Center site, rather than an actual list of actual mosques. The existing Ground Zero Mosque and Ground Zero mosque controversy redirects do the job just fine.
 * But I just can't decide which of these to give more weight to. Make of this what you will. --BDD (talk) 00:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. I've not been following this controversy at all, and I've not read the article, but I am vaguely aware that it exists. I couldn't tell you the name of it at all, or whether it was due to one or multiple mosques being proposed (if pushed I'd have said that there was more than one proposal for a single mosque), so its pot luck whether I would search for the singular or plural, so both are very likely search terms for someone like me - and being only peripherally aware of a controversy is hardly an uncommon thing. Thryduulf (talk) 16:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - rational or not, it's an extremely likely search term, and appears to send the reader to what they're looking for. Wily D  10:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Flamestinguisher



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy deletion. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Flamestinguisher → Fire extinguisher (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Made up word created as a redirect. noq (talk) 19:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.