Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 15

July 15
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 15, 2014.

NBA Hall of Fame



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Keep. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  23:15, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * NBA Hall of Fame → Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Redirect should be deleted because National Basketball Association Hall of Fame doesn't even exist. If it doesn't even exist, it shouldn't even be there. Robert4565 (talk) 23:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as R from incorrect name since it is a viable search term, and what they want is the target. Tagging INCORRECTNAME will keep it out of search results. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: this redirect implies connection between target and NBA, which does appear to exist (judging by target). I am not knowledgable enough of this matter to !vote confidently though. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 18:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep and tag per IP. There's unlikely to ever be a dedicated NBA Hall of Fame separate from the general basketball hall of fame, so that will be where NBA greats are honored for the foreseeable future. --BDD (talk) 21:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
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Virginia Panhandle
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 5%23Virginia Panhandle

Generalization (logic)



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Generalization per the nominator's rationale. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 02:13, 21 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Generalization (logic) → Universal generalization (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I propose retargeting to Generalization, as an R from unnecessary disambiguation, since this established WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is about a concept in logic. The current target, universal generalization, is a specific concept in mathematical logic. It was formerly located at this title, but there are only a few incoming links to be fixed. Given that readers searching for "Generalization (logic)" probably want the topic we describe at Generalization, I think fixing those links and retargeting is worth it. BDD (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Support retarget - since Generalization is already the primary topic, and is about logic as well, this should be redirected to that. starship  .paint   ~ regal  12:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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Template:R from template



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 20:47, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Template:R from template → Template:R to redirect template (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is misleading; there are many types of redirects to or from templates besides those pointing to redirect templates themselves. BDD (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: this redirect makes the target appear applicable to wider set of redirects. Also, redirect can't be from template by definition. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:17, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * whatever Keep : All the R from templates of that era, IMHO would have better been R to whatever, but the naming convention was R from, so that's what I kept. Like all these, this is an auto-categorizing template, and THIS is the wrong discussion page... CFD and the people interested in tracking page usages would be more appropriate. Then again, where is the sense in needlessly editing pages where the silent template does nothing to hurt the project. I swear, far too many of you folks have too much time to split hairs over things which have been in place over half a decade. Get a life. It's not broken, there's nothing to fix. DO something useful besides add edited pages to the server archives.
 * Given the many template redirects it used to be within have been deleted, do as you will. No one really used the R from templates properly anyways. // Fra nkB 15:42, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * delete, ambiguous. Frietjes (talk) 23:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Windoze $leven



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Windoze $leven → Satiric misspelling (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Implausible misspelling. 7 is not spelled “sleven”. ï¿½ (talk) 15:53, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:R criterion 8: obscure neologism. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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Template:West-Virginia-geo-stub



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 20:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Template:West-Virginia-geo-stub → Template:WestVirginia-geo-stub (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Misnamed - a template of this name would refer to the geography of the western part of Virginia state, not to the state of West Virginia. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep As far as I can tell, there are no stub categories related to Virginia named by cardinal directions. And as a native Virginian, I can testify that despite the existence of Western Virginia, this is a very rare phrase. There barely is a west Virginia Even as a Virginian in Virginia, this would usually be taken for a mispronunciation of West Virginia. No one is going to use this to describe places in Virginia. --BDD (talk) 18:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As a non-Virginian (most stub sorters probably aren't Virginians), there's no reason for me to figure this fact out; in fact, when I look at Virginia, it looks like there should be a part called Western Virginia - the part that Wikipedia calls "Southwest Virginia". עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:19, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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Land of liberty



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Land of liberty → United States (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Patent POV creation. Creator not notified. – S. Rich (talk) 05:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Certainly not the land of liberty, that would be France. Liberty, Egality, Fraternity -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Misleading POV. Many countries--including the United States--are places with individual liberty. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to My Country, 'Tis of Thee as this is the second line of the song. Ego White Tray (talk) 01:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete we have no article about the one potentially-notable subject that's actually called by this title (the 1939 film Land of Liberty ), and Special:Search serves perfectly well for finding articles which mention this phrase, like the song All Hail, Liberia, Hail! quant18 (talk) 07:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: there is nothing wrong with POV redirects, but US is not the only country claiming this title, and disambiguation is impractical – we can't have "choose the land of liberty you like" kind of DAB. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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Land of freedom



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:41, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Land of freedom → United States (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Patently POV. Creator has been notified about POV edits, but I am not notifying creator as to this XfD. – S. Rich (talk) 05:22, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. As any country with a functional government is by definition restricted in its freedom, only regions without functional governments actually are free. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Misleading POV. Many countries--including the United States--are places of freedom. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * An admin should look at the user’s contributions, which are full of blatant POV-pushing. ï¿½ (talk) 15:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. My rationale here is the same as in above disussion. These redirects should share the same fate. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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挪威



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * 挪威 → Norway (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Not especially Chinese. TheChampionMan1234 03:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per the guideline WP:R point #8, and the reasons expanded in the essay WP:FORRED. quant18 (talk) 03:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Norway has no particular affinity for Chinese. WP:NOT a translation dictionary. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FORRED. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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New Korea



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * New Korea → South Korea (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Both North Korea and South Korea were established around the same time. TheChampionMan1234 00:16, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Retarget to New Korea Party? Not sure what else to do with it, if that's not a good suggestion it should probably be deleted. quant18 (talk) 02:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: references to South Korea by this name are equally prominent as references to restaurants, places and other topics. The stats are well below noise level, so this is no loss. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as no plausible target can be identified.- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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China Kingdom



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget all to History of China. Though there is a case to be made for retargeting to Ancient Chinese states, the consensus is to point these redirects to the broader target. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 19:40, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

This redirects to the page on the modern China, so not appropriate here. TheChampionMan1234 00:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * China Kingdom → China (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Chinese Kingdom → Dynasties in Chinese history (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinese_Kingdom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Chinese kingdom → Ancient Chinese states (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chinese_kingdom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Comment I added Chinese Kingdom and Chinese kingdom to this discussion, since they should probably all have the same target. Ancient Chinese states is probably the best target, though I wouldn't be sad to see the whole lot deleted. quant18 (talk) 04:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * REtarget to History of China, which lists the pre-Qin Chinese hegemonic dynastic kingdoms, as well as the Ten Kingdoms, the Three Kingdoms, the Warring States, etc. -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:20, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to History of China and tag with R to disambiguation page to make usage of these titles be reported by DPL bot. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 19:33, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Retarget to History of China per Dmitrij D. Czarkoff.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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