Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 22

May 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 22, 2014.

Poopsocking



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:48, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Poopsocking → Video Game Addiction (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Poopsock → Video game addiction (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poopsock&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]  Note: added to original nomination. —  Scott  •  talk  22:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Poopsock → Video game addiction (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poopsock&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]  Note: added to original nomination. —  Scott  •  talk  22:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Poopsocking is an urban term (the type you would see occur on Urban Dictionary). It's definition there is "Defacating into a sock in order to avoid having to get up from your computer to use the toilet. Often utilized when playing online role playing games". Hardly encyclopedic, and all of it's mentions seem to be on sites with the same reliability as Urban Dictionary. ''' Flipandflopped  (Discuss,   Contribs)  23:53, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note - the redirect was created by what seems to be a blatant troll. Look at the creator's talk page and user page history. ''' Flipandflopped  (Discuss,   Contribs)  00:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete what about all the other events you don't want to break away from? -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:08, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per 65.94. We haven't snotpooping or peefeeling or whatever. This is simply WP:MADEUP. Unless you can quote a dictionary that records it (For years I snipped and recorded contributions to the Longman's Dictionary of New Words exactly for that purpose: I even had to pay the stamp; unfortunately the Internet outran it.) 14:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom-- Lenticel ( talk ) 04:44, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Note, I've added poopsock to the nomination, which was created at the same time by the same user. —  Scott  •  talk  22:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete in the absence of reliable sources, but I'm pretty sure this isn't just something someone made up one day: . -- N  Y  Kevin   22:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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Useless Inept Twat



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 * The result of the discussion was deleted by Anthony Bradbury. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Useless Inept Twat → David Cameron (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Obvious attack redirect. Lewis Hulbert (talk) 21:54, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's true anyway lol?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuicyMelonz (talk • contribs) 21:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete for blatant reasons. ''' Flipandflopped  (Discuss,   Contribs)  23:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete too ambiguous to indicate any single target -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:07, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete' as per 65.94 and Flipandflopped. Si Trew (talk) 09:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
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List of lakes named Fish Lake (disambiguation)
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 June 6%23List of lakes named Fish Lake (disambiguation)

Glenden Enterprises



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:28, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Glenden Enterprises → Chris Fontaine (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete Redirect could plausibly be turned into a full article. Per WP policy, if the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject, it is better that the target article contain a redlink than a redirect back to itself. D-Day (talk) 18:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep a separate article should not be created on the driver's team. It is best treated as a combined article with a redirect. Insufficient independent notability and a very reasonable redirect. Candleabracadabra (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep'. It could be a separate article, but it isn't and until someone creates one it's the best target. WP:NOTFINISHED. Si Trew (talk) 00:12, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Move to Glenden as shorter title. We've just been discussing "Ltd" and "plc" as suffixes of (British) company names – I just reeled a few off for examples – and I forget exactly S.A. as French ones and p.A as Italian ones? What about Volkswagen GmbH or Harris Pty or whatever? Wouldn't this come under the same reasoning? That RfD, right here today, has not got consensus yet, but surely it is a suffix in the same way? Either Glended Enterprises is either an "Inc." or something, or it is not: but Glenden does not exist so it would be sensible to move it to a shorter title. Trotter's Independent Traders does not exist, nor Trotters' Independent Traders, but Trotters Independent Traders does and redirects to the British sitcom Only Fools and Horses, as it should. There's no obvious pattern or guideline I can divulge here. Si Trew (talk) 13:55, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's much point in moving this redirect. There's no significant history that needs preserving. Someone could create Glenden, certainly, and the article could be made there. --BDD (talk) 16:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Very, very bad idea - "Glenden" is not the name of the team, claiming it is would be original research. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fontaine is not the only driver who has driven for the Glenden Enterprises team; the current target does not discuss the team, and adding it there would be WP:UNDUE. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:55, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Create a stub. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:43, 25 May 2014 (UTC).


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Fred Biagi



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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. Absent some evidence as to whether Biagi is independently notable, this will stand. --BDD (talk) 16:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Fred Biagi → Biagi-DenBeste Racing (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete Redirect could plausibly be turned into a full article. Per WP policy, if the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject, it is better that the target article contain a redlink than a redirect back to itself. D-Day (talk) 18:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Keep. It could be but it isn't. Are you suggesting WP:REDLINK?. Since others seem to be the experts on motor racing, why doesn't one of them make the article? Si Trew (talk) 00:08, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Why don't they, indeed? Maybe because they see a link that already exists? - The Bushranger One ping only 02:54, 25 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


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Template:WPCO



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Number   5  7  10:57, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Template:WPCO → Template:WikiProject Companies (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

While "Co" is a common enough abbreviation for "Company," CO stands for other things as well, of which Colombia and Colorado also have dedicated WikiProjects. Thus, this is likely to cause confusion. It also doesn't match WP:CO. Finally, the variant Template:Wco was recently deleted (by me, in the interests of full disclosure). --BDD (talk) 15:55, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- agree that this is potentially confusing. Currently only used productively ~15 times, so impact will be low.  On the other hand, there are relatively few short template aliases for this banner, as suggested by https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py?page=Template:WikiProject_Companies . --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 23:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - Useful shortcut in all capital letters. Because it was produced in 2008, the time for changing this longstanding shortcut has already passed.  There is an active discussion about this type of issue at WT:SHC, for which I have requested closure at WP:ANRFC.  Barring a change to something more suitable, this redirect does no harm now that it has been created.  Though consensus may state otherwise at this time, I feel that in most cases, that we do not want a lower case redirect to point to a different location than its upper case counterpart.  Additionally, we have redirects such as albums and songs.  Whoever nominates these should be obligated to correct them manually.  On a side note, "Template:Hmm" has not been removed from all templates following RfD. --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. WPCORP already exists and is only two letters longer. We should not be ambiguous in this matter, considering WikiProject Colombia and WikiProject Colorado -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 06:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and 65.94. Sound reasoning there. Si Trew (talk) 19:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Orphan and keep The redirect does no harm, but having the full name increases readability. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:46, 25 May 2014 (UTC).


 * delete as confusing, too many meanings for CO. Frietjes (talk) 20:39, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 *  Comment - There are several template redirects with multiple potential meetings. Hat isn't about headwear and cob isn't about maize (see Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_March_18 for additional template redirects with multiple potential meanings).--Jax 0677 (talk) 20:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete The existing shortcut WPCORP is a more viable and less ambiguous/confusing option. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:30, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
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Bukkit



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. The reason given for deletion "Non-notable server software" is not a policy-compliant ground for deletion. Being non-notable (and I am making no judgement on notability in this case) is a standard reason for creating  a redirect rather than writing an article. This term is mentioned at the target that is a sensible place to point this redirect. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Bukkit → Minecraft (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Non-notable server software for minecraft Shuasa (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Declaring an interest, I am a software engineer and I have never heard of it – in that sense you're right – but I don't work in games software. Nevertheless a quick search of fora shows there is lots of interest in it. Sure, should be an article: but while it isn't, this is the right target. The only thing I could think of a reason to delete is if it were a proprietary product, but it seems to be pretty much open source e.g [bukkit.org] – and this is a typical model to encourage people to create games for a platform but of itself it is not WP:PLUG etc, the article seems reasonably neutral (e.g. not written by the company itself and so on). I am not qualified to write the article: wish I was, but at worst WP:REDLINK to encourage its creation. It's not as if it goes to bucket or Hyacinth Bouquet or something, and is not a WP:PLUG as far as I can see: it goes to the relevant topic. Si Trew (talk) 11:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability is not a requirement for redirects. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:47, 25 May 2014 (UTC).


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Brazilian aardvark



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 * The result of the discussion was Procedural close (by non-admin): Good-faith editors just slipped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs) 12:10, 22 May 2014‎


 * Brazilian aardvark → Circular reporting (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Per my comment on Talk:Brazilian aardvark, this should be targeted to the page to which it is most relevant, which in this case is Coati, whether the term really refers to this animal or not. Jinkinson  talk to me  03:42, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Somehow I completely missed that section. WIth redirects is often best to just be bold, and open discussions if reverted. Often new articles have appeared since the redirect was creation, or the creator simply missed a better target. Diego (talk) 08:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


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