Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 1

October 1
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 1, 2014.

Republic of Crimea (country)



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was procedural close. The action the nominator wishes to be considered is not specified. This is without prejudice against immediate renomination with a clear proposed action and rationale. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 11:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Republic of Crimea (country) → Crimean Federal District Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 아수라장 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 1 October 2014‎ (UTC)
 * to an article with the same base name, which is nonsense, but Wikipedians like Ezhiki do it
 * Republic of Crimea -
 * to an article with the same geographic coverage, which is also an entity existing after the country, which is nonsense too, but less than the above
 * Crimean Federal District
 * to one of the articles that belong to this destroyed base article
 * International recognition of the Republic of Crimea - itself redirected to Political status of Crimea and Sevastopol
 * Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation
 * to some random other article
 * Political status of Crimea and Sevastopol
 * So which do you want to do with it? Si Trew (talk) 19:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Note. The redirect was not tagged (I've now fixed that). The current target (since May) is Annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation. Thryduulf (talk) 07:43, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep without prejudice against immediate renomination: It isn't obvious where this conversation is supposed to be going, and there is no rationale given for making any change. If the nominator figures out what they want us to do, they can renominate.  -- N  Y  Kevin   13:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
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Stéphane Chazelas



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:27, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Stéphane Chazelas → Shellshock (software bug) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

The helpfulness of this redirect is very questionable. The subject of the redirect is claimed to be the discoverer of its target article's subject, but it doesn't seem like the subject of the redirect is explained in detail enough to be a helpful redirect to this page. (For example, there isn't a section dedicated to the subject of the redirect to explain who/what the subject is.) So, basically, delete per WP:REDLINK. Steel1943 (talk) 22:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * KEEP I added four references to additionally prove the significance of the software engineer behind the findings. They were removed as references.
 * Copied here: Stéphane Chazelas'
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debasish Dey (talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 October 2014‎
 * What you have presented does not in any way address my concern in this nomination, nor states any real alternate basis to keep this redirect. In fact, what it actually does is enforce that it should be deleted per WP:REDLINK for being notable as a separate topic. Steel1943  (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debasish Dey (talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 October 2014‎
 * What you have presented does not in any way address my concern in this nomination, nor states any real alternate basis to keep this redirect. In fact, what it actually does is enforce that it should be deleted per WP:REDLINK for being notable as a separate topic. Steel1943  (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * What you have presented does not in any way address my concern in this nomination, nor states any real alternate basis to keep this redirect. In fact, what it actually does is enforce that it should be deleted per WP:REDLINK for being notable as a separate topic. Steel1943  (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete; I actually came here to nominate it myself. Off topic for target article, nearly completely so; will never merit more than the single sentence already there.  Anyone looking for biographical information on this person and only getting "he discovered a bug once, though it happened to be easily exploitable and in widely-deployed software" will be sorely disappointed.  Same reason  wasn't redirected to Bash (Unix shell), only more so.  Redirect creator's insistence on bolding the name in the target article because [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shellshock_(software_bug)&diff=627875786&oldid=627875395 "This is a significant achievement"] (reverting its removal four times!) is particularly alarming. &mdash;Cryptic 00:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. The target was only created on 26 September 2014 (one week ago); the redirect on 1 October (yesterday). I can't help feeling this is WP:NOTNEWS(particularly WP:NOTWHOSWHO), but if so it is (presumably) outside our remit. Since the redirect is mentioned at the target, it seems a sensible redirect. Whether the target article should exist (yet) is another story. "One bloke found one bug once" is not really very encyclopaedic, in my opinion, but it seems to have enough RS and all that. Stephane Chazelas does not exist as a (nor as anything else). Si Trew (talk) 09:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Student erotica



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:43, 17 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Student erotica → Erotica (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete. Link is to non-existent section created by banned user. Sticky search term, so I'm uncertain "student erotica" is (or was) anything beyond a neologism being aggressively promoted by this user.

A more specifically appropriate redirect target would also be acceptable. / edg ☺ ☭ 21:04, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. In attempting to find a better target, I did a quick Google search. It seems quite a common term to mean a kind of erotic fiction featuring students (and often their teachers) at colleges, universities etc. e.g. here, "Emily Cantore", with a rather pleading note to "please buy my books" on an incredibly slow loading front page. Student romance does not exist. Student porn does not exist. Erotic fiction redirects to Erotic literature, which perhaps would be a better target, but for that "student" is not found there. I'm inclined to say Delete, then, to encourage the creation of the article. Si Trew (talk) 09:49, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * (Added) although I note also the original contributor, User:Student erotica (and presumably the same on an IP, User Talk:151.197.111.178), used it (in 2007) in the sense of "erotica written by students". That sense seems to be a nonce, but the sense I found it seems reasonably well established. Si Trew (talk) 12:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Supreme Military Council (Syria)



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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close, with no prejudice against a clearer nomination in the future. --BDD (talk) 14:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Why is Supreme Military Council (Syria) redirected to Syrian National Council? Is that based on any source, for example? --Corriebertus (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Supreme Military Council (Syria) → Syrian National Council (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Supreme_Military_Council_(Syria)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * note nomination formatted, creator notified and redirect tagged. Thryduulf (talk) 20:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ???? What is the suggested action here? Ivanvector (talk) 23:01, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * This has been listed here for discussion, rather than the nominator proposing a specific action. This is perfectly acceptable. The outcome may be any of keep, delete or retarget, depending on the discussion. As there hasn't been one though, this should probably be relisted. Thryduulf (talk) 11:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks like a deletion nomination to me, with a suggestion that "Supreme Military Council" is an improper synonym for "Syrian National Council" (no such body is mentioned at the target article, so this is conjecture). Perhaps Corriebertus can clarify the intent. --BDD (talk) 18:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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Wilberforce College



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 * The result of the discussion was restore article. --BDD (talk) 14:31, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Wilberforce College → Kingston upon Hull (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete per WP:REDLINK. There's only one mention of the college in the target article, and the subject deserves its own. --BDD (talk) 14:50, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * May be best to revert back to the short stub article, rather than delete. Keith D (talk) 23:41, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea. Redirecting seems excessive, especially to such a vague target. --BDD (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment.
 * (I note a pipe at List_of_African-American_firsts from "College" to "University".) Perhaps, but this is stretching it, also:
 * I note that Wilberforce Institute redirects to a section in University of Hull. Si Trew (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. Central State University, which was Central State College until 1965, is also in Wilberforce, Ohio. Central State College redirects to University of Central Oklahoma. I've added some hatnotes variously. Si Trew (talk) 08:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. It's included in the navbox at, so it appears on "What Links Here" for a lot more articles than actually mention it in the main text. There were a few American articles that linked to this wrongly (rather than Wilberforce University, which was called W. College originally). I fixed them. Si Trew (talk) 08:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment. It's included in the navbox at, so it appears on "What Links Here" for a lot more articles than actually mention it in the main text. There were a few American articles that linked to this wrongly (rather than Wilberforce University, which was called W. College originally). I fixed them. Si Trew (talk) 08:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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Talk:Skyquake



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 * The result of the discussion was boldly overwritten with project tags by Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Talk:Skyquake → Talk:Skyquake (Transformers) (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Preventing Skyquake from having its own talk page, which should be redirected from Talk:Mistpouffers. Noyster  (talk),  11:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Cases like this don't require deletion, I've boldly overwritten the redirect with project tags (I've used the ones that are on Talk:Mistpouffers). I've updated the tags at Talk:Mistpouffers to class=redirect and added a to it to direct future comments to the right place. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
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Savannah Summers



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Pro Wrestling Womens Alliance per Edgarde's bold edit (non-admin closure) . Since this was done more than a month ago and there has been no further discussion, I conclude that there is no objection. Feel free to relist if I have interpreted wrongly. Ivanvector (talk) 22:41, 14 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Savannah Summers → Professional wrestling in Australia (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Should be deleted as there is no mention of this wrestler in the target article. Rationale similar to that of a recent AfD (Buddy Murphy) where the admin deleting addressed the redirect option as non existent for this reason. It will also prevent the most recent IP (before me) from creating the article again - it would have to be an established user. 144.137.40.224 (talk) 05:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * comment the subject's name (but nothing else) is mentioned at Pro Wrestling Womens Alliance. Thryduulf (talk) 13:05, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * retarget. Since Pro Wrestling Womens Alliance cites a source which lists Summers (albeit with no other information), I think it is an adequate redirect target. / edg ☺ ☭ 13:55, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Boldly retargeting. Retaining Rfd template. / edg ☺ ☭ 14:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
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