Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 12

October 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 12, 2014.

User:83.84.60.13



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was Thryduulf's solution. SkyLined is clearly trying to be helpful, rather than disruptive, but the fact that this is a dynamic IP means that keeping these pages as they are could be disruptive. Thryduulf's solution will accommodate SkyLined without creating harm based on other users that may use this IP. --BDD (talk) 15:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Delete this is apparently a dynamic IP address, so there is no support for this as to will permanently be assigned to User:SkyLined. User:SkyLined should just track what IP addresses he uses and watchlist their talk pages. Leaving a note that he started using the IP address on date-X would be better than having a redirect at this location.. 67.70.35.44 (talk) 22:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * User:83.84.60.13 → User:SkyLined (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * User talk:83.84.60.13 → User talk:SkyLined (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:83.84.60.13&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Overwrite with pages that note edits from this IP between date X and date Y (or between date X and the present) were made by user:SkyLined, with a link to their user page. I agree with the anon that these redirects are inappropriate, but deletion is not required to replace them with useful pages. Thryduulf (talk) 22:31, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment has also usurped 86.89.144.60 and  which has been blocked for 2 years -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 03:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Update SkyLined has aksed for deletion of these at Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 13 and Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 13; Clearly indicating this is not the right way to leave things permanently. -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 10:41, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * NOTE see also Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 October 15 -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 10:41, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Please don't speak on my behalf, especially not if you misrepresent the situation: I requested the removal of redirects for IP addresses that I no longer use, and explicitly did not request the removal of the IP address that started this discussion. That indicates I like to update Wikipedia when needed. It does not indicate I agree that we should proactively remove useful information because it may become outdated at some point in the future. — SkyLined (talk) 12:37, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * When was the last time you were correctly associated with those two deleted IP address redirects? How many years were they functioning in the wrong manner? That they suddenly were requested for deletion right after being pointed out seems to indicate they have not been useful for atleast a time, and were not cleaned up. -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 04:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Leave. Please leave a link to Wikipedia policy on which you base your request. In my experience the redirect is helpful to other Wikipedians in case I make changes without logging in (which I frequently do for minor changes). My internet is always on and this has been my IP for at least a year now (even though it is officially dynamic). I have been doing this for previous IP addresses and it has never led to any issues. I have requested the deletion of the older IP address redirects, thank you for reminding me. Btw. did you really mean to imply I forcefully, illegally redirect IP addresses to my user page, are you just unaware of the meaning of "usurped", or just trolling? — SkyLined (talk) 07:46, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * There isn't a Wiki policy to cite, as we don't make a policy for everything that could possibly happen. The problem with this redirect is that if your ISP changes your IP, even to something completely different like IPv6, they won't tell you and you won't know, which would cause a problem if someone else gets assigned this number. That said, I think 67's idea of placing a note on the IP user page stating that you use it sometimes is a good solution for everybody. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This whole discussion is a waste of time. The old IP addresses for which I had redirects never caused any issues and I don't see how this could ever lead to a problem that is worth any effort to prevent. Please let me know if you can think of any example of a problem that would be mitigated by changing the redirect. Personally, I prefer spending what little time I have editing articles rather than debating non-issues, so I'll leave the decision to you (as well as implementing any changes you decide upon). 83.84.60.13 (talk) 22:11, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It is already broken. Or are you saying your ISP will never reassign your old IP addresses to other ISP subscribers, and no one on your ISP will ever access Wikipedia in English? Do you own the IP addresses in question? (are you assigned by ICANN theses IP addresses) If not, then you've already broken Wikipedia. Whenever another user who is not you starts editing Wikipedia from these addresses, they will have improper talk and user pages -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 03:12, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Bashar the Messenger



 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Bashar the Messenger → Darryl Anka (links to redirect • [ history] • )     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is a fairly un-notable term and doesn't need to be a redirect. Jorm (talk) 06:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * keep this redirect gets 200+ hits most months, so clearly the term is used. Although the article doesn't use this term verbatim it is clearly the right topic, so it is not misleading or harmful. Notability is not a criterion for redirects - what matters is that they are plausible and correct, and this is both. Thryduulf (talk) 08:18, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - discussed at target, no rationale presented for deletion. Wily D 10:56, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.