Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 29

August 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 29, 2015.

Team Sarah



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Team Sarah → Sarah Palin (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Team_Sarah&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term is not mentioned in the target article. Through search engines, the top result does relate to a topic with strong ties to the subject of this article (a group that seems to promote the subject of the target article ... yet their site requires a login and password to see anything) ... most of the rest of the results are for a music group from the Philipines that were on a show called The Voice. So, I'd say delete for probably being a WP:PROMO for a third party related to the target, and WP:REDLINK for the music group. Steel1943 (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Just for background info, the team is called as such because they are coached/led by singer/actress Sarah Geronimo. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - It's not a helpful target. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete it's usually Team Palin. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:49, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer 13:15, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obscure term that is not a likely search phrase. - MrX 21:46, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - other issues aside, simply Sarah is very vague. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 08:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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Palintology



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 21:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Palintology → Sarah Palin (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palintology&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The term is not mentioned in the target article. All results show this to be some kind of meme or joke in regards to the subject of the target article. So ... delete for essentially being a WP:BLP violation as a redirect ... or very weak retarget to Paleontology as a misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 23:06, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer 13:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - not a plausible misspelling. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:12, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Super Weak Retarget to Paleontology, torn about its plausibility, probably not likely (hence the super weak). — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 08:13, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or retarget. It wouldn't surprise me if "palintology" was a phonetic rendering of "palaeontology" in some accent (a southern US drawl perhaps) but I don't know that. Either way, the current target is not appropriate. Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Considering that in US English it is "" ( → Paleontology) (and you have Noah Webster to blame for that) it is just a mere slip, twixt a cup or a leap (you have Shakespeare to blame for that? Macbeth III.iv I think, Mrs. Macbeth being a nagging wife like mine). WP:NOTDIC, WP>RFD. Si Trew (talk) 07:12, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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逻辑
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College logic



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 21:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * College logic → Logic (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=College_logic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Term not used in article. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete college course names should not redirect to topic articles -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:49, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Rubbish computer 13:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * delete as vague. There's a lot of subjects taught within college logic courses -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:02, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I tried to look for Collegiate (a DAB to some schools, as if schools had any logic) and going around the fences the school of philosophy of Plato and Aristotle for example, who took a collegiate approach. Platonic logic is red, but even were it not, it would seem a far stretch, as Collegiate does? Aristotle, in the Metaphysics, generally boils down to a reductio ad absurdem argument, but then he didn't know how many teeth his wife had. Del it, then. Si Trew (talk) 07:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Simply not a helpful redirect. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 13:43, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Islamick



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 * The result of the discussion was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Islamick → Islam (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islamick&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Implausible misspelling. Islamic means "of or relating to Islam" and "ick" doesn't. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:09, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's an old spelling. See these Google Books results - Example: "While Amana's fate hangs in the balance, local pundits are already aware that the issue of rearing Islamick fundamentalism could have a direct bearing on local politics come the general election." WhisperToMe (talk) 00:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WTM's findings -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:41, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WTM. Rubbish computer 13:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep -ick is a variant spelling for -ic -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - plausible spelling. Wily D  07:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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Motor City (2014 film)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete both  per WP:R. Just Chilling (talk) 13:43, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Motor City (2014 film) → Hughes brothers (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Motor_City_(2014_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Motor City (film) → Hughes brothers (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Motor_City_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:R. The target contains no mentions of this film and Motor City (disambiguation) doesn't have any entries for films of this name. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:57, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete for the redirect that mentions a year, weak keep for the other. IMDb lists a film of this name as "In Development" . Since I don't have IMDbpro access, I can't see any details, but assuming good faith on the part of the creator, I assume the target is a reasonable one, and the film has simply been delayed. So, the redirect with a year is clearly invalid at this point, but either of WP:R (a stretch, but not impossible) or WP:R could apply to the other redirect. Xtifr tälk 09:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not how it works. You're just assuming a connection and we shouldn't do that. Unless there is sourced material in the article on that film, it'll be confusing and/or speculatory. Anyone looking for information on the film will be disappointed because nothing exists there and it's a WP:CRYSTAL violation. When/if this film starts production, it'd be super easy to write an article on the subject, so let's wait until then. See also: WP:REDLINK. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:28, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Rubbish computer 13:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Ayy lmao



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 22:19, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Ayy lmao → Internet meme (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ayy_lmao&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Know Your Meme confirms that this is an Internet meme, but it's probably not a notable one, and it's not discussed at the target article. BDD (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete to encourage article creation I personally consider Know Your Meme to be a reliable source, although Know Your Meme has had more coverage on more clearly notable memes than this one. It may be possible to find more coverage on other websites. So I favor deleting this redirect to encourage article creation since I think it might be notable. --Mr. Guye (talk) 22:20, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Encouraging article creation is usually considered a reason to keep a redirect. (Note: that's not my !vote, merely part of my observation.) WP:R: Anyone can edit a redirect; not everyone can create a new page. Xtifr tälk 09:09, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In this case it'd be an argument for deletion since the target contains no information on the subject. See WP:R. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Rubbish computer 13:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 17:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Challenge (internet)
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Post-2009 Pacific hurricane seasons



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete all as uncontroversial housekeeping. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Post-2009 Pacific hurricane seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2009_Pacific_hurricane_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post–2010 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post%E2%80%932010_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post–2009 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post%E2%80%932009_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2010 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2010_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2009 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2009_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2009 Atlantic Hurricane Seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2009_Atlantic_Hurricane_Seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2008 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2008_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2008 Pacific hurricane seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2008_Pacific_hurricane_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2008 Atlantic hurricane seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2008_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2007 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2007_Southern_Hemisphere_tropical_cyclone_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Post-2006 Atlantic hurricane seasons → Tropical cyclone naming (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-2006_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete all as outdated redirects that would now be confusing. The target doesn't contain a list of this sort, and it hasn't since the year listed. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Support deleting all of them. It was a temporary solution. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:54, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all - No longer needed.Jason Rees (talk) 19:13, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete – What the Hink and JR said. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


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On-line drama addiction
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 13:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * On-line drama addiction → Internet troll (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=On-line_drama_addiction&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I suppose you could say some trolls have this, but it's not a commonly used phrase; it doesn't appear at all at the target article. BDD (talk) 18:48, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete since I can name several social media sites that meet this criteria. Steel1943  (talk) 01:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as there appears to be no suitable target. Rubbish computer 21:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. I was thinking if this can actually be made into an article -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. We do not have Online drama addiction. WP:NONCE, WP:NOTNEWS. Section Internet troll, the site being entirely unreferenced anyway, links to Encyclopedia Dramatica. There, it is not mentioned nor anywhere else in the article or its target. (As if that was the right way to fuse a greek and latin noun, and then lose the ae in doing so) is mentioned in Internet Troll, to which at best this should be refined as WP:RFD nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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To anarchize
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Alternative versions of Thor
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. Deryck C. 21:41, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Alternative versions of Thor → Alternative versions of Thor (Marvel Comics) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alternative_versions_of_Thor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Alternate versions of Thor → Alternative versions of Thor (Marvel Comics) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alternate_versions_of_Thor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Alternate versions of thor → Alternative versions of Thor (Marvel Comics) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alternate_versions_of_thor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This is a similar problem of unnecessary disambiguation to that below. Again, I think these should go to a title like Thor in popular culture, but lacking that, I'm not sure what to do with these. Neither Thor nor Norse mythology in popular culture seem like very good retargeting options. --BDD (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete WP:BIAS Wikipedia is not the Marvel Encyclopedia. Thor is not a Marvel invention. This is clearly prejudiced against non-Marvel topics -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per 67. Rubbish computer 21:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per anon -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I indirectly created the redirect when I originally moved the page from Alternative versions of Thor to Alternative versions of Thor (Marvel Comics). However, the idea behind the page move is line with the rationales listed above. The title needed to be disambiguated to clearly define the scope of the article, the Marvel Comics Thor. I agree with for the need of a Thor in popular culture article, to list the other incarnations of Thor.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think I really like the idea of simply deleting these and leaving the target article titled as is. We typically shouldn't have titles like "Foo (bar)" if "Foo" is red. --BDD (talk) 13:19, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Thursday. Si Trew (talk) 09:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Thor in other media
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Norse mythology in popular culture. Deryck C. 21:40, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thor in other media → Thor (Marvel Comics) in other media (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thor_in_other_media&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Thor in film → Thor (Marvel Comics) in other media (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thor_in_film&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Outside of category names, it's unusual to see disambiguators in child articles. In these cases, there's unnecessary disambiguation, which is especially problematic. I understand the logic here, though. We really could use a Thor in popular culture article, but for now, I recommend retargeting these to Norse mythology in popular culture or moving the longer title over the redirects and retargeting the second item there. I'm tempted to favor the moving, but retargeting probably makes more sense in the long run. --BDD (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete or REtarget WP:BIAS Wikipedia is not the Marvel Encyclopedia. Thor is not a Marvel invention. This is clearly prejudiced against non-Marvel topics -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget to Thor. Not exactly the best target but at least our readers can gain some info about Thor in media and film there. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 13:00, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Lenticel. Rubbish computer 21:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per my rationale in the other discussion.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 12:54, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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Women in law
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Women in law → Women in the United States judiciary (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Women_in_law&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

WP:BIAS. Hat tip to This is Paul for drawing attention to this in a similar RfD. BDD (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:REDLINK as there appears to be no suitable target. Rubbish computer 17:54, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What was the RfD? --Lquilter (talk) 03:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Lquilter, it was Lady lawyer (discussion). Still ongoing as of now. --BDD (talk) 13:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete WP:Systematic bias. This is not the US Wikipedia. Women exist outside the United States. Law exists outside the United States. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:55, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete to encourage article creation -- Lenticel ( talk ) 14:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete noticed this because it was mentioned at Lady lawyer. I was thinking the same thing as Rubbish computer above. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 07:52, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I would much prefer we have a "women in law" article that focuses generally and not just in the US. So delete without prejudice for creation of a new article. --Lquilter (talk) 01:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be WP:RNEUTRAL, contrary. Would you suggest we also have Men in law, then? Le alone that we have, and ridiculously redirexts to Sibling-in-law, for fucks sake, I am going to delete that, no RS. These were red when I started this discussion at RfD and if I find that another editor has been making them on the sly, their contributions are about as much use as a snake in an arse kickikng competition.


 * Mother-in-law I have marked to section.
 * Sister-in-law was red.


 * A DAB it if anything. Now, there is no point saying essentiall WP:FORRED unless you want WilyD up your tail for "no good reason has been presented for deletion" even when one has but you have not explicitly said so. I say DAB it. It could mean the historical role of women not having the vote, suffragette movement (haven't checked if that is R yet etc). Could be the whole thing about Wome's suffrage (again haven't checked yet, on purpose). Could be Fenűminism at which at a DAB I doubt we should branch into its various forms (AND STOP HITTING ME OUCH WIFE GET OFF ME)


 * In the alternative, who's gonna write the article, Cherie Booth? Probably me, cos I have a copy of The Female Eunuch on my bookshelf, and have the privilege of Germaine Greer completely ignoring me on Parker's Piece. Bloody hell, I bought her book. Si Trew (talk) 08:13, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * OK let's start.
 * Father in law → Parent in law
 * Father-in-law → Parent in law
 * Father-in law red.
 * Father in-law red.
 * Grandfather in law red.
 * Grandfather-in-law red. (I'm a liar, Affinity (law)).
 * Grandmother in law → Affinity (law) WP:SURPRISE!)
 * Grandmother-in-law →  Grandparent

I am sorry I didn't realise Wikipedia is probably also WP:SEXIST cos most editors are male. On the whole, they try to stop hunting wildebeest and edit intelligently. A woman trying to WP:PUSHPOV is not what I want to find, "LadyLawyer", aka {{ping|Lquitter]]. Now, with the gramps, the grandmother has two different places it could go, and the poor old grandpa has nothing to go to. Did I ever say this was simple? Si Trew (talk) 08:36, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I would also add Women in Love to thart DAB. Many cultures do not have the English 'W' and pronounce it V. Si Trew (talk) 08:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * With extreme prejudice I have to say that with this edit here at RfD, User:lquilter removed all my comments. Whether he or she likes them, they are for discussion. With extreme prejudice I think lquilter did wrong to remove them from the discussion. Si Trew (talk) 08:51, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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The Rock Poster Art of Todd Slater
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 * The result of the discussion was WP:BOLD-ly restoring article. This is essentially a "wrong forum" close. TheLongTone (the editor who converted this article to a redirect), if you have an issue with the state of this content, I would recommend nominating it for WP:AFD. As it stands, due to lack of coverage at the targeting regards to identifying the redirect, the redirect could be seen as unhelpful. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 16:40, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The Rock Poster Art of Todd Slater → Todd Slater (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Rock_Poster_Art_of_Todd_Slater&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I request that the redirect be deleted and the article it replaced be reinstated. The article was removed by user @TheLongTone without engaging in Talk first. Attempts at reasonable discussion via Talk page have been met with disrespectful attitude and no attempt to discuss. Ukebloke (talk) 16:27, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Other Government Agency
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Kobato
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 * The result of the discussion was keep. WP:TWODABS recommends against two-item disambiguation pages, and there was not consensus to create one here. I've added a hatnote at the target article. At some point, it will probably be appropriate to have a disambiguation page, such as if the anime and the manga are split into separate articles. "Kobato." may also be an inappropriate title per MOS:TM. A requested move might find consensus to move it to a title like Kobato (manga) and have the base title a disambiguation page after all. --BDD (talk) 21:43, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Kobato → Kobato. (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kobato&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Shall I convert this redirect page into a two-topic disambiguation page consisting of just Kobato. and Kobato Station? George Ho (talk) 04:22, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh. Do we know what the station was named after? --BDD (talk) 04:46, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment there are three topics, the anime, the manga, the station, and wiktionary 鸊/鵻 (こばと/kobato); Two just happen to be covered by a single article, because of weird WPANIME conventions on not making articles, even though the rest of Wikipedia have separate articles for comics and TV cartoons. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect - {Edit} While having a disambiguation page that separates out the anime, the manga, and the station... that seems right to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * CoffeeWithMarkets, could you clarify? Do you want to keep the redirect as is and have a Kobato (disambiguation) created, or would you prefer to disambiguate the base title? --BDD (talk) 13:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I would have Kobato (disambiguation) / Kobato, yes. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * Disambiguate. Rubbish computer 17:56, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Move over R the article at Kobato. to Kobato as WP:PRIMARY (and then delete the R with the stop). I can't see that the trailing stop (be it in English or kana) is actually part of the name, and a gsearch for example brings up several results without it (Wikipedia here being the first, but that's no surprise). F'rexample kobato.wikia.com/wiki/Kobato_Hanato doesn't use the stop neither a kana stop nor English one., what do you think? Si Trew (talk) 11:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Dabify to Kobato. and Kobato Station. Of course, it can also be resolved with a hatnote at Kobato.. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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Administrative city
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 * The result of the discussion was refine to Cities of South Korea, without prejudice against creation of set index page. Deryck C. 21:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


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Generic term that is now redirected to Cities of South Korea. Rationale is unclear. Think it should be deleted. Savonneux (talk) 07:52, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep and refine to Cities of South Korea, or disambiguate if there's any other topic in Wikipedia called "administrative city". Redirects don't need to be preemptively disambiguated if there's no other topic by the same name. This is the common and official translation of "행정시". 58.176.246.42 (talk) 08:13, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I just meant that it is hopelessly vague and it doesn't seem to refer to anything on the page it redirects to. Of note also is that "administrative city" seems to refer specifically to capitals and the like, per Encyclopaedia Britannica, so it would be deleted as a WP:DICDEF on here pretty fast. Translation thing maybe?--Savonneux (talk) 09:07, 20 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Refine. "Administrative city" is a specific type of subdivision in South Korea that is not apparently used elsewhere. Many places have an administrative capital that would make a good hatnote target if it wasn't a red link. This is comparable to Adminstrative region (a specific type of subdivision in Brazil) and Administration county (a former specific type of subdivision in the UK). Thryduulf (talk) 11:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Refine to Cities of South Korea per above points. Rubbish computer 13:52, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Huh. Someone unfamiliar with South Korea's system of designating cities would probably be ASTONISHed at this, as I was. I guess I would expect something discussing the idea of a city as an established administrative unit, as opposed to just a bunch of people and buildings together. That said, this isn't a term I'd search for, and it seems implausible overall, so perhaps readers using this would indeed be looking for the South Korean concept. --BDD (talk) 15:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If we have anything discussing that idea then I'd certainly consider linking to it either a dab or via a hatnote, but I haven't found anything. Thryduulf (talk) 17:54, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Very weak retarget to Capital city since that is where most political states' administration is located. (Seriously, very weak.) Steel1943  (talk) 22:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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Aaaaaa
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 * The result of the discussion was delete Aaaaaaa, keep the other two. Jenks24 (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


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 * AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA → AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I will take and add WP:PROMO Si Trew (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Same as 'Aaaaaa'. Vincent60030 (talk) 11:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Vincent60030 (talk) 11:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC) I think this redirect should be deleted since there is already the shortened form Aaaaa. So, this redirect should be 'merged' into the other redirect. Vincent60030 (talk) 03:09, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete with nom. Aaaaa also goes there, and could perhaps be added to the nom. Si Trew (talk) 07:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: Well, I think that Aaaaa redirect is also a possible search option since it is very close to Aaaaa! because ppl normally don't use exclamation marks to search for something. So, I think only this one will be deleted and further submissions will be declined leaving only 'Aaaaa!' and 'Aaaaa'. Vincent60030 (talk) 09:45, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment. We also have Aaaaaa and Aaaaaaa (but not Aaaaaaaaa). I limited my comments to when I thought it was useful to keep. We have not Aah! but Aah →  DAB at AAH, for example. Aha also  → AHA, a DAB, but  of course is a completely different band from A-ha). Si Trew (talk) 11:00, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment:Ok, I see. Vincent60030 (talk) 11:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I knocked the two together. Hope that is OK. Added another, too. A bit WP:PROMO to have all these redirects to one book. Si Trew (talk) 11:18, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * We have AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA for example. Needless DAB, promo. The plot thins. Si Trew (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete Aaaaaaa and keep the longer one (because redirecting from the title without punctuation is a common form of R from stylization) and Aaaaaa (because Steam, a major game retailer, uses six "A"s here so it would be R from alternate capitalization). --66.87.124.119 (talk) 14:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I won't !vote here because I'm WP:INVOLVED, but I agree with the IP above. We should only have redirects that are legitimate alternate capitalization/stylizing of names of the game that are documented in reliable sources (and I think Steam is okay since WP:COMMONNAME only talks about "reliable English-language sources" not independent sources). If I were to vote, I would vote to keep delete Aaaaaaa and keep the others. If we're not going on sources, we'd have to have redirects from all 20 varients ranging from Aaaaaa to Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|<span style="color:#FFF;background:#00f;display:inline-block;padding:1px 1px 0;vertical-align:-0.3em;line-height:1;font-size:62.5%;text-align:center;">'''TALK
 * Delete the non-capitalized redirects; keep AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA as a legitimate alternate title. WP:PROMO doesn't apply here - if the redirect title were Greatest game ever then PROMO would apply, but titles are not promotional merely by existing. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, but these are not titles (are they?): if AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! is the title of the book and "a reckless disregard for gravity" is the subtitle, then the topic should be moved to reflect that: we don't generally list things with their subtitles (is this WP:COMMONNAME? I mean we do have Lines written a few miles above Tintern Abbey but not in all its possible variants of capitalization, and we don't have Lines written a few miles above Tintern Abbey while Revisiting the Banks of The Wye during a tour, 13 July 1798 even though it was originally published with that title.


 * Perhaps my reasoning is rather circular: the book is not called "Aaaaaaa" in any form of capitalisation, or anything like it. So the redirects to it, I argue, are promotional because they redirect to one book whose title is nothing like what the redirect says. Now, I am not claiming they are intentionally promotional, I am simply saying they have that effect. But I can see why you would say that PROMO don't apply and you are probably right: I'm quite happy to strike that part of my argument. If not, I still see WP:COMMONNAME comming into play. Si Trew (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * According to the article, the video game (not book) is properly titled as it appears here, i.e. it is not a title-subtitle thing. The article also mentions in the lede that Aaaaa! (six letter A's total) is a proper shortened title. Based on that I think we can call Aaaaaa a R from alternate punctuation. I think we can keep AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA for the same reason; although the article doesn't call it a proper short title, it's a natural short title given the hyphen. The other redirects with numbers of letters A other than six should be deleted, unless a better target is available. My comment above is struck because I can't work out a change to it without disrupting the thread that follows, so I'll restate below. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Aaaaaaa; keep Aaaaaa and AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA as alternate titles, per the discussion with Si Trew directly above. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I always wanted to be first in the dictionary, but I found it such Aardvark. (Someone had to do it.) Si Trew (talk) 21:03, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Keep If one of the first two is a typical shortened name, that's obviously valid, and I don't expect readers to have perfect knowledge of how many repeated characters to include. The third, though a bit bizarre, doesn't seem ambiguous. --BDD (talk) 16:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete Aaaaaaa, keep Aaaaaa and AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA, per 66.87.124.119's point. --Rubbish computer 18:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete Aaaaaaa, keep Aaaaaa and AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA, to go along with the emerging consensus. -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep all per WP:CHEAP. One does make less sense than the other two, but even it is a plausible typo. Xtifr tälk 09:24, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Kenneth Peter Townend (1921–2001)">Kenneth Peter Townend (1921–2001)
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 * The result of the discussion was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Kenneth Peter Townend (1921–2001)">Kenneth Peter Townend (1921–2001) → Kenneth Peter Townend (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kenneth_Peter_Townend_(1921%E2%80%932001)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This redirect is from a title that wouldn't likely ever be accessed. It is simply clutter in the article graph. Kiwi128 (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:CHEAP -- the redirect is accurate, and a common way to write people out in the world at large is in this manner -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as a harmless redirect, given that the "disambiguator" is the period of years which the subject was alive. Steel1943  (talk)|
 * Weak Keep - While this is of marginal use, redirects are cheap. I don't think keeping this hurts anything. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per above reasons. Rubbish computer 11:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - plausible search term. Wily D  07:07, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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IPad Pro
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 13:55, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


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There is no such thing as an iPad Pro, as As11ley stated in the edit summary for revision 669499089. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 02:19, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - The 'iPad Plus'/'iPad Pro' hullabaloo right now is just based on a bunch of rumors, and it's better to delete the redirect. If such a product gets developed and distributed by that name, then we can create the actual needed article. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Rubbish computer 11:35, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Dark Invasion
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 * The result of the discussion was procedural close on the first redirect, since Captain Assassin! wrote an article on the book. Retarget the second redirect there since it covers the potential film. Consider this withdrawn. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 17:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Dark Invasion → Bradley Cooper (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dark_Invasion&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="Dark Invasion (film)">Dark Invasion (film) → Bradley Cooper (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dark_Invasion_(film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:R. There is no mention of this film at the target article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - The book Dark Invasion is notable enough to have an article of its own. The film is just a project right now and falls under WP:CRYSTAL.
 * Making a note here that the above comment was added by me. Since there's now an article for the book, I'm fine with a Retarget. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep both as I've added content in the book article and redirect the film article to that. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 02:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per Captain Assassin! Rubbish computer 11:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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