Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 11

December 11
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 11, 2015.

The big W



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, R3, by . (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The big W → Wikipedia (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_big_W&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Do people actually say this? Regardless, it's a poor redirect because there are many other "big W"s that aren't Wikipedia.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete WP:R3. Tagged. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:51, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's at the old Woodwards site in Vancouver. Legacypac (talk) 23:18, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, a film whose Macguffin is a "big W". I don't think anyone calls Wikipedia "The Big W". 64.105.98.115 (talk) 02:49, 12 December 2015 (UTC) 64.105.98.115 (talk) 02:49, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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Going to the bathroom



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Going to the bathroom → Defecation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Going_to_the_bathroom&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This could plausibly redirect to many things.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 16:56, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as inaccurate (and therefore misleading), unnecessary, and unencyclopedic. Softlavender (talk) 06:14, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nonsense. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as just crap. Legacypac (talk) 04:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:PERSON



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget. Since persondata is deprecated, I'm very tempted not to have a hatnote back there, but for now, I'll include it. --BDD (talk) 16:19, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * PERSON → Wikipedia:Persondata (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:PERSON&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A vast number of uses seem to indicate that when people reference this redirect they are really referring to WP:NPERSON. I'm wondering if that's a more suitable target for that reason, as well as the fact that its current target is no longer going to be used on Wikipedia. Izno (talk) 16:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support retarget to Notability (people), so long as a hatnote refers back to the current target. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:53, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * retarget to Notability (people) per nom but leaving a hatnote pointing to original target per Ivanvector -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:11, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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Big Hero 6 hijacking



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by, criterion R3. Procedural close. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:54, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Big Hero 6 hijacking → Lufthansa Flight 181 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Big_Hero_6_hijacking&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Redirect makes absolutely no sense, why would it be called the "Big Hero 6 hijacking" Supercell121 (talk) 16:13, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete - agree with nominator, this is a nonsense redirect.   78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 16:14, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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Too soon



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. There's some indication that this could be a standalone article as well. --BDD (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Too soon → The Aristocrats (film) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Too_soon&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Request deletion of the redirect. It's a somewhat common 'joke' phrase that is directing to a very specific use, which is a sub-section of another article. Confusing. There'll probably never be a WP article for this, but perhaps should be a wiktionary article. Wittylama 13:34, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - agree with nom. Target doesn't explain what the "too soon" interjection means, just gives one extremely obscure example of it. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I created this redirect 8 years ago next month, and this is the first complaint I've heard. Far from being an "obscure example", it in fact redirects to what is perhaps the seminal use of the phrase in the English speaking world as documented by the film, i.e. the comedian Gilbert Gottfried joking, on stage, in New York City, about the 9/11 attacks very shortly after they happened, and cries of "too soon" being the audience's general response. As such, I fail to understand the nominator's self-professed confusion. If the nom thinks there should be a wiktionary article, they should go create one; that's a different project and it doesn't involve us. The nominator also makes a specious and unsupported claim that the meaning of the term has somehow evolved since 2001, but I will note that the first google hit for the term at the Urban Dictionary disagrees. -- Kendrick7talk 05:07, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Heh, ran across this on Reddit today. Via a discussion about an octopus using as coconut for shelter (which I was not in any way a part of), of all things. So yes, the connection is still a thing. -- Kendrick7talk 04:47, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as completely misleading. Spam. Softlavender (talk) 06:15, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Spam? What? Why? Because it redirects to a subsection of an award winning documentary? I suppose it could just as easily be redirected to Gilbert_Gottfried with some adjustments if that's your concern. I assure you, I wasn't a spammer 8 years ago, and I'm not one now. -- Kendrick7talk 06:29, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete misleading, per Ivanvector -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:55, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as per others. Legacypac (talk) 11:31, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure a full-on delete is necessary since the phrase has certainly crept into popular culture, but I also don't think the present target (or any related to it) are the correct location for this phrase. --Izno (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey,, I'm not quite the hipster I used to be so I'm not up on the latest pop culture. Could you explain what you think the correct target would be otherwise? -- Kendrick7talk 18:04, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Off the cuff, I can't think of anything. There are any handful of usages (World of Warcraft, Steve Irwin, 9/11 apparently) where it's been applied, which goes the WP:NEO route as being problematic (as in, problematic having a whole article on the subject). Pointing it to any one of the phrases certainly isn't right. --Izno (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps writing a stub on the subject could fix this? -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to think maybe I could stub this out, given refs like:
 * But I honestly think the existing redirect is doing the job just fine as it is. -- Kendrick7talk 05:14, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I still don't get it; the 9/11 Gottfried incident (2001) predates the invention of World of Warcraft (2004) and the death of Steve Irwin (2006) and is arguably the genesis of the term in popular culture to begin with. I don't think too soon deserves an article either, but I'm having a hard time understanding the animosity towards this 8 year old redirect. "We don't know where to redirect it so therefore let's not redirect it to anything" is a Loki's Wager fallacy. -- Kendrick7talk 22:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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Haizhu Square



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 * The result of the discussion was stubbified by ; no longer a redirect. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Haizhu Square → Haizhu Square Station (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haizhu_Square&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Haizhu Square is not the station. Cwek (talk) 03:03, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or stubbify the station is at the square, so is a subtopic, and is referred to as that, so a short form name. It'd be easier to just write a one-line stub instead of deleting it, and an additional line to indicate the station. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:11, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Stubbify using the content at Talk:Haizhu_Square... not sure how to do it myself with the rfd notice there. Siuenti (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Procedural close as it's already been turned into a sourced stub by Siuenti, and the topic appears to have notability independent of the station. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 13:16, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
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