Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 2

December 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 2, 2015.

Occasionability



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all except keep "occasionalist", "occasionalistic", and "ocassionalists", and retarget "occasionally" to occasion, without prejudice against speedy renomination (ping Tavix). Unanimous consensus is that this is redirect spam created by Neelix but some items were contested. Deryck C. 17:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Occasionability → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionability&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionable → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionable&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionably → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionably&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalisms → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalisms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalist → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalist&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalistic → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalistic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalistically → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalistically&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalists → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalities → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalities&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionality → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionality&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionally → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionally&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionalness → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionalness&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionate → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionate&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionated → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionated&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionated → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionated&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionates → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionates&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasionating → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasionating&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasioned → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasioned&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasioner → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasioner&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Occasioners → Occasionalism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasioners&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:NOTDIC. Not all variants of the word "occasion" refer to occasionalism. I've redirected occasions and occasional to occasion, but I believe these are too implausible to be useful or helpful at either target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:26, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep "occasionalist", "occasionalistic", and "ocassionalists" as "[c]losely related words" per WP:RPURPOSE; redirect "occasionally" to occasion; delete the rest as implausible. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete all as another block of Neelix junk. (I thought we were going to come up with a way of not having to go through this....) Mangoe (talk) 14:47, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * We did, here. The problem with this set is that some of them could be considered helpful, so I wanted to take them here so people could pick out the ones they wanted to keep (as seen above). The result will probably end up the same or similar, but the extra scrutiny certainly wouldn't hurt. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all as useless Neelix redirect spam —Мандичка YO 😜 20:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all as useless Neelix redirect spam. Madeup or very rare words are not useful search terms. Legacypac (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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Ajared



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete all Beeblebrox (talk) 00:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Ajared → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajared&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ajaring → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajaring&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ajaringly → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajaringly&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ajarred → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajarred&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ajarring → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajarring&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Ajarringly → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ajarringly&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Hinged doors are the only things that can be ajar. Ajar is a disambiguation page with no relation to the word and the variants are just silly. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator; implausible synonyms. (Also, should we add a jar to this discussion? Created by same user at the same time, but that one targets jar instead.) 210.6.254.106 (talk) 00:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hinges a door



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete all. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:48, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hinges a door → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinges_a_door&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]


 * Hinge a door → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinge_a_door&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hinges doors → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinges_doors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hinging a door → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinging_a_door&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hinging doors → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinging_doors&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hinged a door → Hinge (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinged_a_door&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]  Added by -- Tavix  ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Totally implausible redirect—nobody is ever going to search for this, nobody is ever going to link to this, and even in the unlikely event someone does search for it even the stupidest reader will be able to figure out that what they're looking for is at Hinge and Door. &#8209; Iridescent 22:33, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * No surprise here, but there are multiple variants that I've added to the nomination. They're all implausible and should be deleted. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Let do



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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete Beeblebrox (talk) 00:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Let do → Laissez-faire (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Let_do&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, vague phrase that doesn't refer to "Laissez-faire" in English. It's also poor grammar since it's a literal translation from French. Whatever the case, my searches do not come up with anything related to the target article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete as vague. I didn't get any hits for the exact phrase but obtained hits on "Let's do X" instead -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Con Keegan



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 * The result of the discussion was delete all (including Jon-Leigh Pritchard). Deryck C. 17:04, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Con Keegan → Crumpsall (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Con_Keegan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bernadette Newing → Gorton North (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bernadette_Newing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Wendy Helsby → Gorton North (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wendy_Helsby&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nilofar Siddiqi → Gorton North (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nilofar_Siddiqi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mick Loughman → Ancoats and Clayton (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mick_Loughman&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete, these are non-notable, local-level, Manchester-area politicians. There's a mention for some of these, but it's not significant enough to support a viable redirect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:51, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: Similar discussion took place at: Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 25. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:02, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * comment Jon-Leigh Pritchard should also be deleted, as I don't think it's a sufficient mention to be a supportable redirect -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Carpet Book



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 23:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Carpet Book → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carpet_Book&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This make no sense. To me, a carpet book would be a book of carpet samples. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not only would this primarily refer to a book of carpet samples (for which there is no article completely on point), but Google suggests a different book, The Carpet People, as the novel most closely associated with this phrase. As that's just a partial title match, there's no point in retargeting. I found no information connecting this phrase to Harry Potter. Apparently this is a term used by a few fans to refer to a pirated copy of the book leaked before the official release date. While the leak is covered in the article, this term is so obscure that it doesn't seem worth keeping as a redirect to the current article. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 00:43, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete per nom -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete while the Carpet People book may be closer it is not a great match and the most likely target books of carpet samples is not an article.--72.0.200.133 (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, possibly speedily (though it's old enough that speedy probably can't apply). This redirect was originally created as the result of a pagemove of content that was later deleted via AfD.  The redirect should have been speedy-deleted at the same time rather than being repointed.  Rossami (talk) 19:05, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Trophy Club Municipal Utility District 1



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 * The result of the discussion was delete as unopposed. I'm not a big fan of permanent protection on anything but wouldn't oppose if you want to salt it yourself. Deryck C. 17:08, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Trophy Club Municipal Utility District 1 → Trophy Club, Texas (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trophy_Club_Municipal_Utility_District_1&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This term is not mentioned at the target page, which is not surprising as a small-town utility board is generally not going to be a notable subject. As this has also been a sort of magnet for what looks like several years of disruptive editing and potential WP:BLP violations, I propose permanently WP:SALTing it. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:38, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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F G



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to FG. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 11:05, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * F G → Family Guy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F_G&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

FG is not a redirect to Family Guy, no reason this should be  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 19:17, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We may also want to consider deleting F Guy, which is also a redirect currently targeted to Family Guy. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Follow-up comment: Actually, I think Lenticel is correct, so I am going to change my vote to retarget to FG as a plausible misspelling/ variant. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak Retarget to FG as a plausible misspelling/ variant. I'm also fine with delete per above reasons.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * retarget to FG -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget. Omission of the space is entirely plausible.  Rossami (talk) 19:07, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Σκάκι



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. WP:RFOREIGN is only an essay but it seems to reflect the general sentiment of RfD participants quite well. Deryck C. 17:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Σκάκι → Chess (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%CE%A3%CE%BA%CE%AC%CE%BA%CE%B9&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Per WP:NOTDIC and WP:RFOREIGN The Traditionalist (talk) 17:13, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete WP:NOTDIC general topic with no particular affinity for Greek -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTDIC doesn't apply. It's not an article, there is no definition here, nor any greek, it's simply a redirect. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 18:55, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Given the response to redirects on NOTFAQ deletion at WP:NOT, if we conclude from that discussion that it could apply to NOTDIC, then yes, this is a NOTDIC case and it would be applicable to redirects. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Alternative language words are regular used and severes a useful purpose for those who vocabulary in English is not fully developed. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 18:55, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. Foreign language redirects are only helpful when there's a connection between the language and subject, and I'm not seeing one here. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:27, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:RFOREIGN is an essay, and a poor one at that. WP:Essays are not policy. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 12:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's actually an explanation of the guideline WP:R. Redirects from unrelated foreign languages are obscure synonyms, and are thus unhelpful. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ...and WP:Essays are not policy is just an essay anyway... - Nabla (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep WP:RFD "5. Someone finds them useful. You might not find it useful, but this may be because you browse Wikipedia in different ways." Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 12:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC) Ambox warning pn.svg — Duplicate vote: Sun Creator (talk • contribs) has already cast a vote above.
 * delete Greek language is not specially related to chess. - Nabla (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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Aesthete



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:23, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Aesthete → Aestheticism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aesthete&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Esthetes → Aestheticism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esthetes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These redirects are mistargeted. Suggestions? Legacypac (talk) 04:09, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Aesthetics, as . Si Trew (talk) 05:39, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep They are not mis-targeted; why do you think so? An Aesthete is not someone who engages in Aesthetics, but in Aestheticism. Johnbod (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Strong keep per Johnbod.--The Traditionalist (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * "a person who has or professes to have refined sensitivity toward the beauties of art or nature. 2. a person who affects great love of art, music, poetry, etc., and indifference to practical matters. Also, esthete."  Compare to "Aestheticism (also the Aesthetic Movement) is an intellectual and art movement supporting the emphasis of aesthetic values more than social-political themes for literature, fine art, music and other arts.[1][2] It was particularly prominent in Europe during the 19th century, but contemporary critics are also associated with the movement, such as Harold Bloom, who has recently argued against projecting social and political ideology onto literary works, which he believes has been a growing problem in humanities departments over the last century."  Legacypac (talk) 17:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per Johnbod. Rossami (talk) 19:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Aestheticizations



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 23:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Aestheticizations → Aestheticism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aestheticizations&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neelix redirect for an obscure word. This word (in singular form-thanks) is used in the title of at least two other Wikipedia Articles that are not about the style of art discussed at the target. Legacypac (talk) 03:42, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Not quite. "Aestheticization", singular, is used in at least two other titles (Aestheticization of politics and Aestheticization of violence). For those, we have an R but not Aestheticisation of politics, nor Estheticisation of politics nor Estheticisation of violence, nor Estheticization of politics nor Esthetisization of violence.
 * We have, and    all → Aestheticism too. I'm not sure the largely US (and Canadian?) spelling without the initial "A" should then have the "-isation" form, since the "-ise" form was abolished in preference to "-ize" in the same spelling reform (i.e. Webster's), I think. ("Ae" + "ize" is fine.) Si Trew (talk) 09:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We have, and    all → Aestheticism too. I'm not sure the largely US (and Canadian?) spelling without the initial "A" should then have the "-isation" form, since the "-ise" form was abolished in preference to "-ize" in the same spelling reform (i.e. Webster's), I think. ("Ae" + "ize" is fine.) Si Trew (talk) 09:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak redirect to Aesthetics, or delete. Johnbod (talk) 18:10, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTDIC, we don't need redirects from every obscure forms of every word. I'd be hard pressed to be able to use this word in a sentence, much less an encyclopedic article. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete - implausible search term —Мандичка YO 😜 06:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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13 November 2015



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:26, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * 13 November 2015 → November 2015 Paris attacks (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=13_November_2015&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="13/11 attacks">13/11 attacks → November 2015 Paris attacks (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=13/11_attacks&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * <span id="13/11">13/11 → November 2015 Paris attacks (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=13/11&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Someone is trying to make this attack have a 9/11 style name. Legacypac (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I added the redirect for "13/11" (I didn't make the others) during a time when the title "13/11" was listed on the attack's page as an alternate name. I'm fine if you delete it. --<small style="font: 13px Courier New">Monochrome _ <small style="font: 13px Courier New">Monitor  22:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all - Strong delete the first one, and a trout for whoever created that one. 72.198.26.61 (talk) 22:24, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep the first possibly convert into a set index for events of that day. But it is clearly a reasonable search term for this topic. 11 September 2001 exists -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget 13 November 2015 to November 13 as plausible redirect since both the attacks and other Nov. 13, 2015 events are stated there. Delete the rest as unlikely synonyms since my google search points me to bible verses instead of the attack. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 11:53, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep 13/11 attacks, an American (and many others) alive since the mid-90s would be likely to search for the Paris attacks article in this way due to having lived through the 9/11 attacks. Retarget 13 November 2015 to Portal:Current events/2015 November 13, an acceptable cross-namespace redirect between two reader-facing spaces, and a page which presents the searcher with a list of the various content they may be searching for. 13/11 is already deleted and should have been anyway, it's too vague, it could refer to the number or a ratio or who knows what. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Americans would likely search using 11/13 attacks and not 13/11 attacks due to the American date order. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:01, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete "13 November 2015", a day in standard notation cannot be assigned to a single event. --LukeSurlt c 11:59, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We already do that with 11 September 2001 which does redirect to a single event. So, yes, it can, as one already has. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:41, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete all as neologisms. The argument would be different if there were established evidence that the attacks were actually being referred to via this notation.  I can find no such evidence.  The hypothetical that someone might use these terms because of the similarity to 9/11 is insufficient even by our loose standards for redirects.  Rossami (talk) 19:12, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - nobody is actually using these terms yet —Мандичка YO 😜 06:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment the cover of Newsweek is using '11 13' or '11/13' depending on how you interpret the imagery used. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:43, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
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Red aspect
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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to Railway signal. --BDD (talk) 20:28, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Red aspect → Rhodope Mountains (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_aspect&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As best as I can see he invented this term from some of the meanings of the mountain's name. The term seems more closely related to signal lights, but I suggest delete as confusing and let someone recreate if useful. Legacypac (talk) 01:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to railway signalling - it's engineer for red light. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 05:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems to have applications in traffic lights too. Legacypac (talk) 08:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to railway signalling with a hatnote to Traffic light, possibly via the R at . Red light (DAB) seems doesn't cover these particularly; it lists traffic light more generally, but not anything red that goes to Automotive lighting such as, , or . Interestingly (or not),  and  have different targets. Si Trew (talk) 08:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment we don't have Yellow aspect nor Green aspect nor White aspect. Si Trew (talk) 08:38, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We could, though, that usage unambiguously refers to railway signalling. And as far as I understand it (not very well) railway signals are never referred to as "red light" "green light" etc, the signal is referred to as displaying a particular aspect, which is often combinations of different coloured lights, so hatnoting from red light isn't quite proper. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:59, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, but we do often put these kind of things in a "see also" section; those outside the railway industry ) may not use that term (from my statisitical sample of 1, I should say "red signal" is more common, but Red signal is, er, red and Red Signal is a stub article about a 1941(?!) Bollywood film. A "green aspect" apparently is sometimes used to mean consideration for the natural environment, but not enough to deserve anything on Wikipedia (or even Wiktionary) about it. I presume the reason for "aspect" is that it's not necessarily a light source (could be a railway semaphore signal). Si Trew (talk) 03:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes I believe that's correct, and I see your point about having this in a see-also section. Railway signalling is considerably more complicated than just stop and go, that's my concern, but I guess we're not here to educate users on how to drive a train. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 08:40, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Railway signalling does that more than Railway signal, so perhaps perversely I change my mind:

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 * Retarget to railway signal. Si Trew (talk) 12:46, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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<span id="HP&">HP&
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="HP&">HP& → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HP%26&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I think this is more trouble than it's worth. Every Harry Potter title begins "Harry Potter and" so it's a WP:PTM for any title in the series. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. It seems to be a partial title match to anything called "HP & <X>". HP can range from the books to Hewlett-Packard -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:32, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Lenticel. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 06:02, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete worthless —Мандичка YO 😜 20:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Before we delete this out of hand, let me explain something. Deathly Hallows is the 7th book in the series, and so is sometimes referred to as "HP7". Since the ampersand (&) is the "shift function" on the 7 key, and because the H and P are capitalized, it's almost certainly a case of users who forget to lift their finger off the shift key when they try to type the number - thus, a totally plausible typo. I hope my explanation helps here. Mizzou1993 (talk) 06:36, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * HP7 exists as a disambiguation page. — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 06:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't create redirects based on obscure typos like that, only common misspellings. —Мандичка YO 😜 06:46, 5 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:XY. Partial match or typo or of multiple things (e.g. H&P), correct name of nothing. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 07:04, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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Bed dancers
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all without prejudice against recreation of "bed dancer" because I don't know how strongly Ivanvector feels about his "keep". Deryck C. 17:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Bed dancers → Lap dance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bed_dancers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bed dancer → Lap dance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bed_dancer&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bed dancing → Lap dance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bed_dancing&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bed danced → Lap dance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bed_danced&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Bed dances → Lap dance (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bed_dances&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These terms specially mean dancing on a bed, which is NOT lap dancing (a contact dance). The bed is just an alternative to a hard stage. Retarget to ?? Legacypac (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep bed dancer - a bed dance is a variant of a lap dance mentioned in the article's lede, and one who performs [bed]lap dances is a [bed]lap dancer. Delete the others - implausible modifications. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:22, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the article is wrong. I see bed dancing as closer to pole dancing. Legacypac (talk) 17:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I searched bed dancer and can't verify such a term exists for lap dancing or such an activity as a form of lap dancing. Bed Dance is a film. Urban Dictionary suggests this is just moving around on your bed to music.  It could easily be slang for intercourse too. I removed the term bed dance(r)from the target article lead as unsourced. Legacypac (talk) 18:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * Delete - bed dancer is just not a term. Even if a lap dance were performed on a bed, it would still be called a lap dance! —Мандичка YO 😜 10:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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Hdph
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 17:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hdph → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hdph&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:R. This acronym does not refer to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It does, however, refer to a few other things (none of which have articles) and I feel like someone would more than likely be looking for something else and not the book. -- Tavix ( talk ) 07:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete per nom. I'm also getting weird hits ranging from a Doctorate in Philosophy to different types of electronics -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom —Мандичка YO 😜 06:46, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
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Harry Potter and the Deadly Veil
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. Deryck C. 17:20, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Harry Potter and the Deadly Veil → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Deadly_Veil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Deadly Veil → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deadly_Veil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Harry Potter and the Forest of Shadows → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Forest_of_Shadows&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Pyramids_of_Furmat&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Heart of Ravenclaw → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heart_of_Ravenclaw&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Harry Potter and the Heart of Ravenclaw → Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Heart_of_Ravenclaw&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

At Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Rowling mentions three possible titles for the book. None of these were considered as possible titles, so they are unsubstantiated guesses at what the title was going to be. As such they should be deleted per WP:CRYSTAL: "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation." -- Tavix ( talk ) 07:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. These were legitimate redirects to "Forthcoming seventh Harry Potter book" (or whatever it was called) before the actual title was announced; the names were all registered as trademarks by Bloomsbury shortly after #6 was published, so it was reasonable at the time to assume they were the prospective titles. Nowadays, however, nobody is ever going to search on them. &#8209; Iridescent 20:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Not so Weak delete per Iridescent. Johnbod (talk) 02:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - guesses on what the title could have been; nobody is actually going to search for these, even if looking for alt titles for Deathly Hallows. Any hardcore fan that knows these titles or stumbles across them would easily know the name of the seventh HP book. —Мандичка YO 😜 20:30, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
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