Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 December 20

December 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 20, 2015.

Afghanistani (disambiguation)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Afghanistani (disambiguation) → Afghanistani (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afghanistani_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Request deletion because the target Afghanistani has not been a disambiguation page for sometime, and currently redirects to Afghan. Afghanistani was a dictionary definition since at least 2011, despie being tagged as a disambiguation page. Nothing links to this redirect, except for this deletion discussion. The redirect was bot created in 2011. --Bejnar (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:01, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and I'm surprised this is even a word. I always hear Afghani or simply Afghan as the term to describe someone or thing from there. Legacypac (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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The Wikipedia Adventure
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Gary Trainor



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. I think I should take extra caution because this discussion could become a precedent. From my reading of the discussion below and my own review of the search results, the "delete" side has correctly pointed out that there are two people called "Gary Trainor". Neither is independently notable but both are mentioned in other articles - Meghan Trainor's father, and an actor in Beautiful: The Carole King Musical. This creates a valid case of WP:XY which should trump the two other valid arguments - "keep as R from relative" and "delete it's not useful" - as neither addresses WP:XY. "Notability is not inherited" is also mentioned below but another editor has already pointed out that it isn't relevant to redirects. Deryck C. 21:49, 2 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Gary Trainor → Meghan Trainor (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gary_Trainor&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Created by editor and then immediately redirected by same editor. A couple of problems with this: Gary Trainor (father of musician Meghan Trainor) is unlikely to be searched for; there is an Irish actor named Gary Trainor who could be searched for and readers will redirected incorrectly. I don't see the need for this redirect and believe it qualifies for deletion. Notability is not inherited. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:36, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * How is this any different than Austin Swift redirecting to Taylor Swift or Tish Cyrus redirecting to Billy Ray Cyrus? But I know that you will rule that out as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS so, here it goes:

He collaborated thrice on Trainor's album, Only 17, I believe that is enough to target his name to the nearest relevant page. --MaranoFan (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as Only 17 has been deleted, ruling out this potential target, and because the fact that an individual is notable does not necessarily make their relatives notable. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:05, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as potentially misleading for some readers, especially as he is not notable, and the target is not partcularly helpful. --Bejnar (talk)
 * Keep as R from relative. He's mentioned there, and we don't have articles on notable people by this name. I agree he's not notable on his own, but redirects don't need to meet notability standards. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Wp:R (confusing) per nominator due to possible mix-ups between the potentially-notable actor and the clearly non-notable relative. Let the user see the search results, which has mentions of both topics. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 00:32, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If one of these is notable should there be a disambiguation link to search results. Peter James (talk) 00:53, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per 210.etc. Simplifying the process of seeing search results is a technical benefit of deletion that we should encourage, when applicable.  Nyttend (talk) 02:05, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Theres just a mention there, not enough relevant content. Peter James (talk) 00:53, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as her father's influence in her life is arguably at least partly notable and goes on up to working with her on her musical tracks. He also is, indeed, mentioned on the other page. He possibly should be referred to in more depth in that article, but that's an editorial decision up to them. It should be noted that Gary Trainor has been directly quoted in various publications such as here. I don't see how this isn't a reasonable application of R from relative. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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Oxygenshortages



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Oxygenshortages → Hypoxia (medical) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxygenshortages&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Oxygenshortage → Hypoxia (medical) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oxygenshortage&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Fake made up stickwordstogether redirects. Legacypac (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as impalusible search terms. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:07, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Doubleplusunmake speedful, or upsend sidewise unbreathe. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete not a real compound word in English. Unspaced words are not useful as redirects. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 22:09, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete this is wrong. Hypoxia is only one type of shortage of oxygen; incomplete combustion is also highly likely -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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God Manifest
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Dwellingplaces



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:22, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Dwellingplaces → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwellingplaces&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dwelling-places → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwelling-places&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dwelling places → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwelling_places&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dwellingplace → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwellingplace&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dwelling-place → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwelling-place&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Dwelling Place → Tabernacle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dwelling_Place&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

A dwelling place is called a house in English. Legacypac (talk) 15:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete just wrong. And all similar. 15:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbod (talk • contribs) Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 22:11, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or Retarget to Dwelling, since this clearly isn't the current target -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:26, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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Fiveyear plans
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Ducttapers



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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Sphilbrick. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Ducttapers → Duct tape (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ducttapers&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ducttaper → Duct tape (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ducttaper&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ducttaping → Duct tape (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ducttaping&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ducttaped → Duct tape (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ducttaped&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Ducttapes → Duct tape (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ducttapes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Sticking two words together does not make it a good redirect. Pluralizing something that should not have an S is not good either. Neelix, so can be speedy deleted if desired. Legacypac (talk) 15:50, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy deleted delete all per WP:G6 as housekeeping (tagged): although these are old, they are all implausible redirects. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:13, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Excuse that typo. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Onedimensional man



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Onedimensional man → One-Dimensional Man (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onedimensional_man&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

puremade upword by slidingtwo wordstogether. Legacypac (talk) 15:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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Tricon Global Restaurants Incorporated
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Antiimperialisms



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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Catfish Jim and the soapdish. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Antiimperialisms → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperialisms&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac
 * Antiimperially → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperially&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Antiimperialistically → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperialistically&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Antiimperialistic → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperialistic&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac
 * Antiimperialists → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperialists&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac
 * Antiimperials → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperials&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Antiimperial → Anti-imperialism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antiimperial&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

None of these are actual words. The search engine is smart enough to find the answer if you type these, so they are just spreading bad words across wiki mirrors. Legacypac (talk) 15:17, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete all per WP:G6, about to tag them. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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My Masters



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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by SouthernNights and Sphilbrick, respectively. --BDD (talk) 03:58, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * My Masters → Rabbi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_Masters&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] Legacypac ([[User
 * His Master → Rabbi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=His_Master&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Made up meaning by Neelix. This could be how a slave addresses his master or lots of other things Legacypac (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - a standard way of addressing groups of middle-class men in 16th-century England, cf the play A Mad World, My Masters (1605). Johnbod (talk) 16:01, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not only middle-class, as shown in this quote from Sir Francis Drake, from a speech to his crew off of Puerto San Julian, Argentina, prior to entering the Strait of Magellan (May 1578):
 * For by the life of God, it doth even take my wits from me to think on it. Here is such controversy between the sailors and gentlemen, and such stomaching between the gentlemen and sailors, it doth make me mad to hear it. But, my masters, I must have it left. For I must have the gentleman to haul and draw with the mariner, and the mariner with the gentleman. What! let us show ourselves to be of a company and let us not give occasion to the enemy to rejoice at our decay and overthrow. I would know him that would refuse to set his hand to a rope, but I know there is not any such here...
 * As some encouragement to in his efforts, I offer the next of Drake's quotes, in a letter to Sir Francis Walsingham, from off Cape Sagres, Portugal (17 May 1587):
 * There must be a beginning of any great matter, but the continuing unto the end until it be thoroughly finished yields the true glory.
 * --Mirokado (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note that Sphilbrick has already speedily deleted the second one. --BDD (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Kudos for the most original RfD vote I've ever see go to User:Mirokado. Legacypac (talk) 17:41, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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My great one



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 * The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by Feezo. --BDD (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * My great one → Rabbi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_great_one&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neelix was playing with meanings and seems to have come up with this one for the target. Highly unlikely anyone will use this to search or link. The article says Rabbi can mean "great one". Legacypac (talk) 15:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * delete Johnbod (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G6, as is clearly implausible. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 00:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Introducingly



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:21, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Introducingly → Introduction (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Introducingly&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

another double ending nearly fake word. Legacypac (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 22:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Hustlingly



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Hustlingly → Hustling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hustlingly&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neelix redirect, 344 total ghits for this essentially made up word. A few people have created it too, but it's just not a proper word. Legacypac (talk) 15:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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Pharisaists
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Indian Land



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 * The result of the discussion was no closure action required (except removal of RfD template). The conclusion is "keep redirect, create relevant disambig page and add hatnote from primary target", which has already been enacted. Read the amazing iterative debate below on how editors in this debate solved the problem amongst themselves. Well done everybody. Deryck C. 21:29, 2 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Indian Land → Indian Land, South Carolina (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_Land&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

while this was pointed by Neelix at a proposed town by this name, I'm not at all convinced this is the best target on wikipedia for the term which referred to large parts of the USA and was used in other countries. Ideas? Legacypac (talk) 14:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - people might be looking for anything Johnbod (talk) 16:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Including the country of India. Legacypac (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as valid R from short name, and probably would be the title if not for WP:USPLACE. Hatnote to Indian country or Indian Country (disambiguation). --BDD (talk) 16:24, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep since Indian Land (disambiguation) doesn't exist, making the nominated redirect the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for its target by default. Steel1943  (talk) 02:26, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This book is often referenced in Wikipedia. https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwss-ilc.html Indian Land Cessions in the United States 1784-1894, enough so it may deserve an article about it. Legacypac (talk) 07:37, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but "Indian Land" seems like only a PTM for the book, unless that's a standard shorthand for it or something. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The book, to me, is an indication that Indian Land relates to land controlled by Indians as a primary meaning. I'd never heard of the small community in SC before, but it is common usage to refer to native reserves near me as Indian Land. However most of the Google hits on first page relate to the town, so I'm not too concerned about deleting it.  Legacypac (talk) 03:22, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep in some form (ie: do not delete). I can see a disambiguation, but there'd be considerable overlap with Indian Country (disambiguation), Indian reserve (disambiguation) and/or Indian reservation (disambiguation). I'm fine with keeping it with a hatnote, but I'm not sure which disambiguation to use and/or if they should be merged. If they're merged, a retarget to that disambiguation could work too. -- Tavix ( talk ) 04:18, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Indian Country (disambiguation) (actually covers the topic best), Indian reserve (disambiguation) and Indian reservation (disambiguation) are about the same thing exactly and should be merged for sure - I'd tend toward reservation as the one left standing. Legacypac (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I would agree with that for the most part. I wouldn't say it's the same thing exactly, but they are similar enough topics where merging makes sense. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:29, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * They're the same to the extent that the same topics are listed on both dabs, so why not combine them? One can redirect to the other; no preference on which. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:15, 22 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per BDD and Steel1943: not ambiguous. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:15, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Tavix. Lacking all other meanings, it would be an unquestioned redirect to its present target, and the existence of other reasonable targets is even more reason not to delete.  I'm tending toward Indian Country (disambiguation), since there doesn't appear to be a better target.  Nyttend (talk) 23:02, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Proposal. I was not trying to delete, but find a better suitable target. I suggest we combine the three current DABs favoring the lead of Indian Country but under Indian Reserve. Add Indian Land, South Carolina as an entry and point Indian Land at the combined DAB. Legacypac (talk) 23:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So we move the text The terms Indian Country, Indian Reserve, and Indian Territory may be easily confused. Articles on related topics are titled as follows into Indian reserve (disambiguation), redirect IC (d) and IL to it, and do whatever else is useful that I've forgotten? That seems entirely reasonable to me, and if that's what you mean, I'll support it unless I hear a better idea.  Nyttend (talk) 02:10, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Legacypac (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Disambiguate for all the various uses of Indian land (traditional Amerind lands, Indian Reserves/Reservations, Indian land claims, the town, the land of India, the lands in the Indian subcontinent, the "unsettled uncivilized lands" of ages past of the West) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 11:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation and redirection done here: Indian reserve (disambiguation). Feel free to adjust if I missed something. Legacypac (talk) 17:51, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've undone this since it disrupts the ability for the closer to comprehend the consensus in this discussion. If consensus results in this change, it can be performed when the discussion is closed. Steel1943  (talk) 19:57, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - A note leading people to the related disambig page is what we need, and with that everything seems alright to me. However, going directly to "Indian reserve (disambiguation)" is fine as a second choice as well. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:36, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't necessarily disagree with the amalgamated dab, but I still don't see anything there that would typically be called Indian Land. Indian land, sure, but since that is going to lag behind "reservation", "reserve", and "country" in frequency, I think WP:DIFFCAPS is appropriate here. --BDD (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, interestingly enough, Indian land is a red-link. You would think if that was common, then the redirect to Indian reserve (disambiguation) would have already been created. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Would we even be discussing this if it wasn't created by ? Not every redirect he ever created is bad; we don't need to go overboard with scrutinizing his edits. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
 * don't worry only questionable ones are sent to RfD. Legacypac (talk) 02:32, 2 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, and I updated the hatnote on Indian Land, South Carolina to bypass the redirect to the new Indian reserve (disambiguation) meta-dab. Wbm1058 (talk) 19:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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Andhra Kshatriyas
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Andhra Kshatriyas → Raju (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andhra_Kshatriyas&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect creates the false impression that Raju are Kshatriya (this is one of the major warring issues in caste articles on Wikipedia and we routinely reject self-aggrandising claims). Sitush (talk) 11:46, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete no one's name should be directed at a title like that. Legacypac (talk) 07:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Not a name - did this get added to the wrong section? Peter James (talk) 01:01, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Rubbish computer (Merry Christmas!: ...And a Happy New Year!) 13:17, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Legacypac, was your comment here intended for Yves Fauqueur below? --BDD (talk) 15:19, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I took it as a personal name that included the caste. Maybe I took it wrong, but I agree the caste should not be redirected to here either. If this is an alternate name for the caste, redirect to the caste page. Legacypac (talk) 17:11, 28 December 2015 (UTC):

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John Allen Wyeth
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 * The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator. Non-admin closure. Safiel (talk) 05:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * John Allen Wyeth → John Allan Wyeth (1894-1981) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Allen_Wyeth&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This article and the target article were created in the last couple of days. The target article was FAR better than this article, so I changed this to a redirect. No title disambiguation is needed since there are no other notable persons of the same name. Delete this redirect and its brief history as an article and move the target here, without leaving a redirect. Safiel (talk) 05:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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Pepsi B
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. Just Chilling (talk) 23:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Pepsi B → Pepsi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pepsi_B&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Cokesi → Pepsi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cokesi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Homemade Pepsi → Pepsi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homemade_Pepsi&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These are no longer mentioned at the target section. I can't figure out what they're referring to. --BDD (talk) 05:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Legacypac (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
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Yves Fauqueur
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:37, 29 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yves Fauqueur → Prefect of Saint Pierre and Miquelon (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yves_Fauqueur&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] <span style="background-color:; color:;"> <span style="background-color:; color:;"> <span style="background-color:; color:;">  04:59, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - no deletion grounds have been specified. Mentioned at the target and seems otherwise nn so WP:RED does not apply. Just Chilling (talk) 03:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * What do you want to do with this redirect? You didn't give a rationale... -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:56, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDDEAL and the final point of WP:RFD, to encourage the creation of an article. This guy appears to have a position comparable to the Governor of Guam or the Governor of American Samoa, and I don't see why he should be considered non-notable.  Nyttend (talk) 02:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete concurring with Nyttend. I apologise for not leaving a rationale, although I must say that I originally thought that the reasoning was somewhat obvious. The link is misleading; it would be similar to pipe-linking Barack Obama to President of the United States. Fauqueur does not have his own article, although, with his link in blue, many will think he has got one. With this redirect gone, it would be far more likely that he will have an article created for himself eventually. <span style="background-color:; color:;"> <span style="background-color:; color:;"> <span style="background-color:; color:;">  05:20, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Pepsi Sí">Pepsi Sí
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. Nabla (talk) 20:19, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Pepsi Sí">Pepsi Sí → Pepsi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pepsi_S%C3%AD&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Pepsi Si → Pepsi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pepsi_Si&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at the target article or at List of Pepsi variations, which would be the more likely place. Googling seems to confirm that Pepsi has marketed such a product, but I can't really tell if it's actually different from regular Pepsi. --BDD (talk) 04:31, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I recall seeing this in Cuba recently. I didn't take very much notice of what exactly it is, though, since their local cola is so much better than anything we get here, being made with proper cane sugar and not the HFCS crap we have. But if there's no content about it then a redirect isn't really appropriate. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:57, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and add it to the article Nothing much is needed to prove it's existence Legacypac (talk) 20:55, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * To Pepsi or List of Pepsi variations? Not the latter, because it's not actually a different product. I'm skeptical of the former, too, unless it can be demonstrated that this is part of a noteworthy marketing to Hispanics. As is, this looks like it's just a variant packaging. Bud Light is perennially released in cans with colors corresponding to a local sports team, sometimes even with NFL logos if I remember correctly. Pepsi products had characters from Star Wars: Episode I at one point. Same stuff on the inside, though. --BDD (talk) 21:01, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, Delete it seems like a minor packaging variation - less significant than bilingual Canada vs US (where there may even be a formula variation I understand). I'm good with delete. Legacypac (talk) 08:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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<span id="Fault(geology)">Fault(geology)
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 * The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Fault(geology)">Fault(geology) → Fault (geology) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fault(geology)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

I considered tagging this one with CSD #3, but it may not qualify for speedy under that criteria, so posting here instead because I'm not seeing how this one is practical. Dawnseeker2000 18:51, 12 December 2015 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - this does not appear to be a R from move so I don't see the utility. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:22, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep because it's been there for 4 years without causing any problems. I see no evidence of bad faith so even if you and I don't see the utility, the original creator of the redirect obviously did see some value.  Even if that value is very, very small, there is zero benefit to deleting it.  Rossami (talk) 02:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment – I would say that keeping it (and WP projecting an image of ineptitude) is a problem. Dawnseeker2000  20:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That would be an incorrect assumption. Redirects are supposed to be "wrong".  If that were the correct title for the page, that's the title the main article would be at.  Redirects help our readers find the correct article.  They cover for a multitude of sins including aliases, typos, misspellings, non-standard nomenclature and, as relevant here, variations in the arcane naming conventions used for some of our articles.  Redirects do far more than merely support the search engine.  They have to because not everyone navigates the wiki by way of the search engine.  All that is why we have very different (and much looser) standards for redirects than we would or should ever tolerate for article content.  Rossami (talk) 15:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:RTYPO. The stats show that this gets some use, with several peaks of 3 hits/day in November and October, and one peak of 4 hits/day in mid October. -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:27, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 04:16, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete the activity is bot and webcrawler noise level. It's just wrong and likely a typo on the part of the creator. Legacypac (talk) 16:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. No good reason has been presented for causing linkrot by deleting this redirect: it's not harmful.  Nyttend (talk) 22:58, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
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World flesh devil
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 * The result of the discussion was delete all. Nabla (talk) 20:10, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * World flesh devil → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_flesh_devil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mundus caro diabolus → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mundus_caro_diabolus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Devil flesh world → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devil_flesh_world&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Devil world flesh → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devil_world_flesh&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * World devil flesh → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_devil_flesh&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Flesh world devil → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flesh_world_devil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Flesh devil world → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flesh_devil_world&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Mundus diabolus caro → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mundus_diabolus_caro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Diabolus mundus caro → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diabolus_mundus_caro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Diabolus caro mundus → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diabolus_caro_mundus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Caro mundus diabolus → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caro_mundus_diabolus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Caro diabolus mundus → The world, the flesh, and the devil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Caro_diabolus_mundus&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

As a closer, I found no consensus at this previous batch nomination. On my own, I find a subset of these worthy of deletion. Those that have no punctuation or other indication of being a list seem like unlikely/nonsense search terms. If this were likely, you'd expect to see something like Father son holy ghost extant. As a side note, if you're looking for a fun theme park for the whole family, I really can't recommend either Devil Flesh World or Flesh Devil World. Not at all. --BDD (talk) 03:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Thanks for renoming this junk. The previous batch turned out to be too big I guess. Legacypac (talk) 14:48, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per my previous rationale. Search results are better for these generic searches. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:59, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete everything except "mundus caro" (it's the right order) per Ivanvector. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 22:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Discuss-Dubious, wouldn't that apply to World flesh devil as well? --BDD (talk) 20:00, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess so; it's more like a search string than a good redirect. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 00:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
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Celtic hand
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:17, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Celtic hand → Dupuytren's contracture (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Celtic_hand&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Possible (OR) regarding the redirect as no sources claim that there is such a medical name. Zyc1174 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
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