Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 2

July 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 2, 2015.

GLAI



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * GLAI → LOL (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GLAI&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not mentioned at targeted article. From the history, it looks like it's a WP:NEOLOGISM acronym for Giggling Like An Idiot. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD nonsense. I have to believe Tavix, I've never heard of it but I don't do txtspeke. GLAD → Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders (not, sadly, Giggling Like A Dumbass). There doesn't seem to be anything much closer, GLAP  → GLA Land and Property. Glae is red, I thought that was a good Scots word, am I mistaken? Si Trew (talk) 04:16, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I was thinking of Lallans "gley", like in Rabbie Burns, "the best-laid plans of Meisen men gang aft agley". Si Trew (talk) 05:10, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as nonsense per nom. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Major element



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Major element → Nutrient (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Major_element&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Requesting Delete because this redirect prevents access to other more common meanings and usage of the term "major element". The text of the current target article Nutrient does not mention "major element", but perhaps it is an indirect reference to what the article calls "the "Big Six" ... the elemental macronutrients for all organisms", but I'm only guessing. Nutrients, however, are only a small subset of all chemicals. Major element has a much wider meaning in chemistry and other sciences where, for example, it often means the chemical elements which are most abundant in any sample of any substance, in contrast to minor elements and trace elements. For example, major element is a concept often used in geology and mineralogy when analysing rocks and minerals. For example, see Compatibility (geochemistry). An external link to definition of major, minor and trace elements is http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/19323/definition-of-major-minor-and-trace-elements-in-analytical-chemistry. GeoWriter (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD confusing. In the opposite, we don't have minor element but we do have trace element, which is pretty much a DAB but has a para for its meaning in geochemistry. It's a bit too vague for an article title, I think: Might as well redirect to Hydrogen as the most abundant chemical element in the universe, but that is clearly not what is desired here. Si Trew (talk) 04:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete "element" does not mean "nutrient" -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 04:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as vague. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:06, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK to encourage article creation. I think there's enough info for an article on the Chemistry term. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 13:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Frozen (película de 2013)



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Frozen (película de 2013) → Frozen (2013 film) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frozen_(pel%C3%ADcula_de_2013)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD. Disney's Frozen has no connection with the Spanish language. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Weak delete. We don't usually create foreign-language redirects unless there's a connection between the language and the target. This redirect would be appropriate if there is another movie called Frozen made in 2013 in a Spanish-speaking country, but the 2013 Disney movie Frozen has no connection to Spanish. However, before I make my decision, I'd like to see the discussion play out first. SONIC678 &#124; Let’s hang out here 21:17, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, Since Sonic wants to see it play out, I'll try to muddy the chilly waters then. Let's assume we wanted to keep the Spanish title here in English, then it could just be Frozen (película), there would be no need to disambiguate with the year. (And we haven't pellicule] nor pellicular, sadly, lovely word).
 * As it happens, es:Frozen (película) is a redirect to es:Frozen, a DAB that is IW'd to en:Frozen. es:Frozen (película de 2013) is red. So if it does not exist in Spanish WP why should it in English WP? The Spanish DAB says at the top "Frozen (que en inglés significa «congelado»)" (back translating, "which in English means freezing") but does not link it. We do not, for example, have congelado. WP:RFOREIGN, surelí? Si Trew (talk) 04:00, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 *  Let it go Delete per nom. It's also named "Frozen. El reino del hielo" in Spanish so the retarget is a bit inaccurate-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:55, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
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Indigenous languages of Brazil



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 13:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Indigenous languages of Brazil → Languages of Brazil (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indigenous_languages_of_Brazil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Not sure if this redirect is required? I would have thought the page "Languages of Brazil" would be sufficient on it's own. &#124; Nayptatalk opened his mouth at 12:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * comment - seems a likely search term.   78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 13:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless, unless there is some side that "portuguese" is somehow an invading language, but all seems very WP:NPOV to me. Si Trew (talk) 13:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as "languages of Brazil" would probably be the best target for someone wanting to find that information. We also have Indigenous languages of the Americas, but both targets also contain "other" information, whether it's non-native languages in Brazil or indigenous languages in other S. American countries. I guess it's a matter of which part are you emphasizing? The former target emphasizes "Brazil" whereas the latter target emphasizes "indigenous languages". -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:54, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per SimonTrew and Tavix. The page this redirect redirects to is probably the best place to find information about indigenous languages spoken in Brazil. SONIC678 &#124; Let’s hang out here  21:22, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep target contains (some of) the topic of this redirect; though a list of languages of Brazil would be good to have. -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 03:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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Now You See Me 3



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 13:34, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Now You See Me 3 → Now You See Me: The Second Act (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Now_You_See_Me_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Now You See Me: The Second Act is not released. How third sequel is coming? 27.62.31.241 (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as target got the development information for the third film. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 14:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The target has sourced information about a sequel so this is a valid redirect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this canvassing? to save my redirects.72.10.168.88 (talk) 17:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment perhaps, but Tavix put it clearly and concisely in the reply. Si Trew (talk) 19:48, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:CRYSTAL is not applicable? and closing administrator note: pure canvassing.  Silver    Samurai   07:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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Fantastic Four 2 (2017 film)



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 13:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Fantastic Four 2 (2017 film) → Fantastic Four (2015 film) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fantastic_Four_2_(2017_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * The Fantastic Four 2 (2017 film) → Fantastic Four (2015 film) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Fantastic_Four_2_(2017_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

2015 movie not released. No news about sequel 27.62.31.241 (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as the release date of the sequel is announced and it's not too far (2017). Production may begin this fall. And the target contain development information about the sequel. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 14:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The target has sourced information about a sequel so this is a valid redirect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this canvassing?72.10.168.88 (talk) 17:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment perhaps, but Tavix put it clearly and concisely in the reply. Si Trew (talk) 19:48, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as WP:CRYSTAL Silver    Samurai   07:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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TRON 3



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * TRON 3 → Tron: Legacy (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TRON_3&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The sequel is cancelled. 27.62.31.241 (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep the information about the cancelled sequel is in the article indicated -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, as 67.70 says. It's not actually expressed this way in the article proper, but in reference 167, and the article reliably says its working title was tr3n, which also redirects there. So a bit weird but harmless, someone searching for this will find what they are looking for. Perhaps refine both to section Tron: Legacy? Si Trew (talk) 07:59, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. TRON3, Tron III, Tron III are all red, but Tron 3 also → Tron: Legacy. Perhaps its legacy is that it seems to break the rdcheck filter. Si Trew (talk) 08:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as the target got detailed information about the recently cancelled sequel. But who knows if they start the production in near future. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 14:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The target has sourced information about the sequel so this is a valid redirect. The fact that the sequel is cancelled is irrelevant here. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Happy with the keep, but do you think would be a good idea to refine both (and a few others, that broke rdcheck) to Tron: Legacy, or should we leave it as it stands? Si Trew (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should be refined. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Jurassic Park VI
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 9%23Jurassic Park VI

Jurassic World 2



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 13:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Jurassic World 2 → Jurassic Park (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jurassic_World_2&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

unconfirmed 27.62.31.241 (talk) 06:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep the targeted article contains information on the sequels to Jurassic World -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 06:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ' "Delete' Struck Si Trew (talk) 19:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC).it doesn't contain anything saying "Jurassic World 2" (or "Jurrasic World II"), therefore is WP:CRYSTAL and WP:RFD nonsense.
 * Comment. With my procedural head on, I have amended the listing here to include the section to which the R goes (Twinkle doesn't do that, we really should get that sorted, where to list for Twinkle amendments?), without prejudice, and added to it, but it's not in any part of the article. Actually the redirect is not tagged with the usual so I should probably do that... please await calamity here. Si Trew (talk) 07:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The section does address developments from Jurassic World, hence a viable search term would be "Jurassic World 2" -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 08:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think I got away with it. Si Trew (talk) 07:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as target got the detailed information about the sequel, and film's title is Jurassic World so readers may search by typing Jurassic World 2 to read about the sequel. -- Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 14:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. The target has sourced information about a sequel so this is a valid redirect. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:00, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Information about this subject is mentioned at its current target. Steel1943  (talk) 19:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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Sample Chess Game



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 13:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sample Chess Game → Chess (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sample_Chess_Game&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as misleading. The target article doesn't contain a "sample chess game" so this redirect can do nothing but disappoint. -- Tavix ( talk ) 03:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * delete non-sequitar -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 06:08, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD nonsense, WP:SURPRISE per Tavix. non sequitur ("it does not follow"), by the way. Si Trew (talk) 07:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as misleading.I was thinking of retargetting this to List of chess games since that article offers samples of chess matches but I guess that's pushing it -- Lenticel ( talk ) 05:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Second thoughts: Nobody I presume wants a list of chess notation e4 e5 kxb N and so on, as what I assume is supposed to be a kind of redirect to a beginner's guide to chess. Perhaps can advise? But Chess is possible to refine the target, and we have  and  (apparently now in Lua as Module:Chessboard). On the other hand, we don't have Sample Monopoly Game, Sample Scrabble Game and so on (we don't have Sample chess game for that matter), so I can see this would lead to a combinatorial explosion. Si Trew (talk) 05:22, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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