Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 20

July 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 20, 2015.

The ice fishing story



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The ice fishing story → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_ice_fishing_story&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete. Vague. There are a lot of "ice fishing stories," not just the one in American Hustle. Besides, the article doesn't even mention the ice fishing story. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:51, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete highly vague. The proper target would be a fish story, for which we do not have an article on this common social fib -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per above rationale. Vague. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 06:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Untitled David O. Russell/Abscam project



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Untitled David O. Russell/Abscam project → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_David_O._Russell/Abscam_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled David O. Russell/Abscam Project → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_David_O._Russell/Abscam_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled David O. Russell Project → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_David_O._Russell_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled David O. Russell ABSCAM Project → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_David_O._Russell_ABSCAM_Project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled David O. Russell → American Hustle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_David_O._Russell&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

These are outdated redirects as this film now has a title. These redirects are no longer useful or helpful and are now confusing. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all. This page was moved properly from its original (wrong) title, so the history is intact. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete the slash pages WP:SLASH; delete all as misleading, since it is not untitled anymore -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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Shady Talez



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Shady Talez → Eminem (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shady_Talez&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Shady Talez (2012 film) → Eminem (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shady_Talez_(2012_film)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ] -- Tavix  ( talk ) 20:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFD. It's confusing because there's no mention of "Shady Talez" at the target. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:18, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. It seems to be a project/film that may or may not be happening . — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 06:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Untitled first studio album



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 * The result of the discussion was delete and salt. --BDD (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Untitled first studio album → Versa (band) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_first_studio_album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Untitled Second Album → The Telescopes (album) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_Second_Album&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD because this is excessively vague. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:50, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete with Tavix. We've had loads of these lately and I think WP:CONSENSUS is that, using the law of excluded middle, any "untitled" album is either:
 * Titled, in which case the R is simply wrong
 * Untitled, in which case it is WP:CRYSTAL and fails WP:N, WP:V and WP:RS.
 * Si Trew (talk) 18:14, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt the first per nom, per the usual "my band is about to release an album!" criteria (WP:CRYSTAL). It was blanked and redirected on 19 March 2010, then a new article was created 29 April 2010 when the album was actually released, so the two pages don't share history and the "untitled" redirect can simply be deleted. Add salt because this title is never going to be a useful name for a redirect - "excessively vague" is always going to apply to any page living in this space, so let's just prevent creation now. Also delete the second, maybe per WP:G4. See Articles for deletion/Untitled Second Album (2nd nomination). The Telescopes actually did have their second album re-released as "# Untitled Second", but that is not a match for the name in this redirect. Untitled Second (album) maybe, but not this. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt clearly a lot of people have had these in their careers -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Party and party



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Party and party → Party (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Party_and_party&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Unnecessary redundancy of the redirect's article's title that is not mentioned at its target article. Steel1943 (talk) 16:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, but I was wondering if it could possibly be retargeted to something to do with the first party and the third party in a legal case, a kinda Jarndyce v Jarndyce thing: even so it is not very helpful. (First Party is apparently a Turkish political party; Third Party is a DAB, Second Party is red but Second party → Party (disambiguation). Si Trew (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was asked at my talk page to comment. I don't have a strong opinion either way.  I'll go along with consensus. Bearian (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Girls night



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Girls night → Party (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Girls_night&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The redirect's term is not mentioned at the target article. Also, the term "girls night" is not specifically associated with "party" either. Steel1943 (talk) 16:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It should also either be Girl's night or Girls' night, depending on how many girls there are. Hen night →  Bachelorette party may be possible as a weak retarget. Si Trew (talk) 18:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd have to disagree with this retargetting option since I don't see the term "bachelorette party" called a "girls night" in any sense of the punctuation. That, and I have seen "girls night" more commonly referred to as either a girls night "out", or as a promotion for discounts at a dance club. Steel1943  (talk) 02:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete many bars and clubs have girls nights, and other venues; which does not indicate parties, and girls nights outs don't mean party either -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:04, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Other possible meanings. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 06:07, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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Party pooper
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 28%23Party pooper

Slavic clans of Montenegro



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Slavic clans of Montenegro → Serb clans (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slavic_clans_of_Montenegro&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Deletion. Confusing name, which comes up when searching for "Slavic c...". Gbook hits for "Slavic clans"+"Montenegro" is 0. Compare with Celtic clans of Scotland → Scottish clans Z oupan 01:55, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No links--Z oupan 01:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. I understand WP:RNEUTRAL, but this is a bit of a WP:POV if you ask me: for Scots, I can understand as that is an established word to use for the ancient tribes (if usually used wrongly) but this is stretching it. Si Trew (talk) 11:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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