Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 June 29

June 29
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 29, 2015.

Webcameron



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. This term is not mentioned in the target article so any searcher would be left none the wiser. BDD summarises the policy position well. Just Chilling (talk) 00:35, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Webcameron → David Cameron (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Webcameron&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

There is no mention of this pun in the article. The Theosophist (talk) 09:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Neither do we have "Samcam" but SamCam → his wife Samantha Cameron and it is kinda well known (I think) that they did these web broadcasts. only God and the ballot box knows why, nevertheless it is not WP:RS. Si Trew (talk) 10:26, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello Simon, I missed you! It looks like we do have SamCam... --The Theosophist (talk) 10:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Well that's nice that you missed me, I took a bit of a break as there was something contentious I wanted to step aside from... all resolved amicably I am sure but felt i step aside. With your strike, I am not sure now what your intention is to do with it. Si Trew (talk) 10:35, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You see, I wrote it after you had noticed that there was such a page, but I had not noticed that you had.--The Theosophist (talk) 10:37, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Backwards runs history until reels the mind. Do you wnat to add SamCam to the nomination? Si Trew (talk) 10:45, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, correct target. Add the template, if desired. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC).


 * Rich, what makes you say this is the correct target? It sounds like this is the name of a website. --BDD (talk) 16:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It is (or rather was) - a website of David Cameron. It could be elevated to an article in its own right, there seem to be plenty of sources, or redirect to a more specific page such as "Political campaign tools of David Cameron"  if there were one. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC).


 * Comment, Webcameron was David Cameron's one time official website (see here and here), while SamCam is a nickname used for his wife. This is Paul (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, as usual, that SamCam is not named for the webcam but just a good journalistic short-cut. A quick search shows it is used for webcams by Sam's Chowder House though, a presumably non-notable US restaurant chain. Si Trew (talk) 22:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Could be a bit confusing for those outside the UK I suppose. As for Webcameron I think that should probably have its own article if enough info can be found, especially as the Tories seem to have distanced themselves from it in more recent times. I'll see what I can find, and whatever happens here, if there's enough stuff I'll write something. This is Paul (talk) 23:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Since it's not mentioned at the target article, the redirect amounts to little more than an Easter egg for people already familiar with the term. For others, it would confuse; delete for that reason or WP:REDLINK. --BDD (talk) 16:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - SamCam's been mentioned in various news sources which is why it's known but I don't think I've ever heard of "WebCameron" before and I very much doubt anyone else has either. Implausible. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Not mentioned in article. --Dweller (talk) 10:22, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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Geisha Montes



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 15:30, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Geisha Montes → Geisha Montes de Oca (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geisha_Montes&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

User:MRDU08 moved the article Geisha Montes de Oca to "Geisha Montes" mistakenly. The surname of Geisha’s father and her patriline is "Montes de Oca", not "Montes". If a person types "Geisha Mont..." on the Search, it will appear inmediately "Geisha Montes de Oca", so this re-direct is not needed. ★ Nacho ★   (Talk page) ★ 20:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as harmless. There does not seem to be another notable (or even non-notable) "Geisha Montes". In the meantime without prejudice I mark as . Si Trew (talk) 07:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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Zyxst



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Zyxst → Sixth (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zyxst&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

This was created with the note: "Obsolete form according to Oxford English Dictionary." However, I don't see the value of redirecting this to a disambiguation page that doesn't contain any entries using this spelling. Delete per WP:RFD because it is "a novel or very obscure synonym" for "sixth." -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix - I get the same results. If there are reliable sources for the history of this obsolete spelling, then I suggest it be added to our article 6 (number) and this redirected there. However, I didn't find any. Furthermore, I think the interpretation might be inaccurate. I found a passage from a Middle English Dictionary: "This endenture y made at Exeter the xiij day of Jun, the ȝere of Kyng Harry the zyxst the furste." And another: "How Kynge Herry the Sexyth..Ys trewe Kynge of Fraunce." Perhaps the medieval English were not consistent spellers? Or much more likely I don't know what I'm talking about. Ivanvector (talk) 21:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The mediaeval English were certainly inconsistent spellers: it was not considered very important. And it lasted a long time after the middle ages: no great importance was put on spelling until the 18th century, really. Si Trew (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Incidentally I imagine "furste" above is meant in the sense of cognate German Fürst since he has just been called the sixth. See that "the" is so spelled, not with thorn (letter) (Þ, þ) which we commonly and wrongly transliterate as "y, Y" ("Ye olde") – although that may just be a transliteration into the modern English alphabet without thorn (letter) – yet I, Y and J are somewhat interchangeable ("This" but "Kynge") and the King's name is spelled (or spelt) in two different ways. And all that just from two very short examples. Si Trew (talk) 07:40, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * My interpretation of the first phrase is "this endenture is made at Exeter the sixth day of June, in the first year of King [Henry] the Sixth" which would be 1421 I suppose; contrasted with year of our Lord. But again, I'm no scholar of Mediæval English. Ivanvector (talk) 15:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTDIC This is the Modern English Language Wikipedia, not the Middle English language Wikipedia, for which carries a different language code enm (note, enm.wikipdia.org is not the same as en.wikipedia.org) -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 04:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as all above. I have a feeling this is here just for Scrabble fans: WP:NOTDIC. We don't have Zyxt fortunately, and neither is in my (1994) OSW. We do have zyzzyva, a tropical American weevil, and that is possible to play in Scrabble using two blanks: that's not listed in my OSW either. Zzz. Si Trew (talk) 07:24, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


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Wal-Mart Knowledge Management



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Wal-Mart Knowledge Management → Walmart (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wal-Mart_Knowledge_Management&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete as confusing; the article doesn't mention this concept at all. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:11, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This was the subject of an AfD in November 2008. See: Articles for deletion/Wal-Mart Knowledge Management. The consensus there was to merge to Wal-Mart but was just redirected there in May of 2009. No merge actually took place. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - one of our more prolific sockmasters is involved in this. Was originally spam anyway, nothing worth keeping. Ivanvector (talk) 21:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless Wal-Mart's brand of Knowledge Management is exceptionally valuable. But then, we do have McDonald's University → Hamburger University, which doesn't even hatnote to University of Hamburg. Have cans will worm. Si Trew (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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鋼琴



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * 鋼琴 → Piano (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%8B%BC%E7%90%B4&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Delete per WP:RFD because this is a "novel or very obscure synonym for an article name." -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:05, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Tavix and WP:RFD. This is a Chinese name, and even though "鋼琴" translates to "piano," we don't usually create redirects unless there's a connection between the language the redirect is written in and the target page. The piano was invented in Italy, so it's doubtful it has a connection to Chinese. SONIC678 &#124; Let’s hang out here  00:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete It's not "novel or obscure": 鋼琴 has been in standard modern Chinese for some good long while. It is true that there is no special affinity with Chinese for general pianos. Unless there is a Chinese book/film/song/album that uses that as the exact title, then we can retarget to that.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 04:41, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDIC Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary. This topic has little affinity for the language of this term, being a general topic of European origins -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 04:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as obscure synonym. Pianos are also not native to Chinese culture. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * They're not native to English cuture either, until some idiot from Germany whacked one across the channel, a few years ago, what happened with that,we ended up with bloody Wagner and the Prince Regent and the Royal Albert Hall and Tomorrow Belongs To Me →  Cabinet (musical). Now that is a good song, Oh fatherland fatherland show us the sights are children are waiting to see/ Or glory our future escapes our sin/Tomorrow beongs to me.
 * Now, I ask you, what have the Germans ever done for us. Well okay forget the Georgian architecture, forget the dutch draining the fens, forget Beethoven and all that lot, but WHAT HAVE THE GERMANS EVER DONE FOR US?. Volkswagen?s. Müller? They come over here with there silly accents and... oh dear... OK they did give me a BMW. Si Trew (talk) 00:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I was umming and arring on this one. Piano is a shortend form of pianoforte, soft and loud, literally, in Italian. So it is not English either, yet nobody would dispute (I think) that piano is an english word, especially if you dropped one on his foot. ("Do you know the piano is broken? Well, you hum it and I'll play it). Si Trew (talk) 00:32, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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2016 in Pakistan



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:21, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * 2016 in Pakistan → List of years in Pakistan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2016_in_Pakistan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2017 in Pakistan → List of years in Pakistan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_in_Pakistan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * 2018 in Pakistan → List of years in Pakistan (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018_in_Pakistan&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The target article contains no information on "201x in Pakistan" which makes these redirects unhelpful and misleading. Someone searching for this would want to find specific information about that year in Pakistan, but would be disappointed to find that we don't have any. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:RFD confusing, as above. Si Trew (talk) 17:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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Nyuyok Siti



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Delete as an implausible search term. I'm not getting any evidence that this is a foreign language, this just looks like an extremely bad way to spell New York City. WP:RFD applies. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nyuyok Siti → New York City (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nyuyok_Siti&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nyuyok Si → New York City (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nyuyok_Si&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Nyuyok → New York (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nyuyok&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Delete per WP:USEENGLISH. Si Trew (talk) 17:41, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:USEENGLISH refers to article titles, not redirects. Besides, I don't see any evidence that this is a foreign language. (If so, what language is it?) -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, bang goes my attempt at being brief for a change. Each is a Romanization of Korean. http://www.wordsense.eu/New_York_City/ is probably RS and I quote: "뉴욕 시‎ (Nyuyok si), 뉴욕 시티‎ (Nyuyok siti), 뉴욕‎ (Nyuyok)". Si Trew (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. In KO:WP, ko:뉴욕 시 ko:뉴욕 시티 are redirects to the article ko:뉴욕, translated in its infobox to English "City of New York" and interwiki'd to New York City. (There's a DAB at ko:뉴욕 (동음이의) including both New York State and New York City, which are translated thus, among others: this IW's to New York (disambiguation) here at EN:WP.) Si Trew (talk) 06:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * . Yes, perhaps that was a bad choice of criterion: this more an ad-hoc orthography into English (I'm just playing detective here, I don't know Hangul/Hanji/Korean so I am not qualified to say if this meets any standard for Romanization of Korean.)
 * As you know, my view is that since redirects exist in article namespace – so that it's hard to tell from many angles if a link is a redirect or an article – then they should generally follow WP:TITLE, with obvious exceptions for slips such as and . However, there are things like this that are not simply slips, so I'd find it hard to draw a firm dividing line. It's less certain whether any particular  is useful, for example (and I was translating an article with a French-language title, affichiste, yesterday afternoon, so was probably under the influence of that).
 * In short, we are in the unfortunate position of the policeman who believes an offence has been committed but cannot make any law fit the crime, so is required to invent his own. Si Trew (talk) 05:24, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the research, Simon. Since it's a romanization, that's probably why my translator didn't pick it up. I was thinking more along the lines of 70.51 and thinking it was an attempt at spelling it with a Brooklyn accent. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment is this an attempt to spell it with the pronunciation of Brooklyn English? -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 04:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Does a Brooklyn accent count as WP:RFOREIGN? Si Trew (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think it does, since people have been keeping eye dialect spellings; but since you've discovered this isn't some weird attempt at Brooklyn English, but actually Korean, it fails WP:NOTDIC, Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary, and this is a native English language topic. So.. Delete -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 04:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I did actually have my tongue in my cheek when I wrote that. I know it is an R to New York City English, as indeed is Bronx accent and several others. It was once New Amsterdam, (That's why they had to name it twice) but never mind, Cornelius Vermuyden turns in his grave once more... Si Trew (talk) 22:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Nyuyok → New York State. Tavix, do you want to add that to the nom? Si Trew (talk) 05:55, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm adding it now. Thanks for checking. -- Tavix ( talk ) 20:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, was I mistaken? In Korean it goes to New York State, not New York. But I'm sure you must be right. Si Trew (talk) 21:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment. We don't have We don't have 뉴욕 시, 뉴욕 시티 or 뉴욕. Nor should we: vice versa, ko:Nyukok Siti, ko:Nyuyok Si and ko:Nyuyok are red. I was looking for a List of names for New York City or something like that, but couldn't find one. Si Trew (talk) 06:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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The Capital of the Sun Belt



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The Capital of the Sun Belt → Houston (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Capital_of_the_Sun_Belt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Capital of the Sun Belt → Houston (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capital_of_the_Sun_Belt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Neither the articles on Houston or the Sun Belt make this claim, and I'm honestly having a hard time finding usage of it anywhere. Searching for "Capital of the Sun Belt" gives me only 6 hits. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget as to Nicknames of Houston, where it's referenced. I lived there for two years in the late 90s and can't recall it being called that, but I'm not omniscient. Checking variations (Tavix probably already did this), fortunately we haven't:
 * Capital of the Sun belt
 * Capital of the Sunbelt
 * The capital of the Sun Belt
 * The capital of the Sun belt
 * The capital of the Sunbelt
 * The Capital of the Sun belt
 * The Capital of the Sunbelt
 * Si Trew (talk) 07:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit of a liar, the reference gives as "Golden buckle on the Sun Belt", not "Golden buckle of the Sunbelt" as was at my proposed target – I've fixed that. The reference (New York Times) doesn't say "capital" at all. Si Trew (talk) 08:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, none of those sources reference Houston as a "Capital of the Sunbelt." I'm not sure it's a notable nickname, especially with how few ghits I'm getting. For now, I'll put a tag over that section pending the outcome of this discussion. (I'm not disputing the nickname "Golden Buckle on the Sun Belt", just the Capital one) -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment One of the 8 ghits I get for "capital of the sun belt" is a New York Times piece that refers to Los Angeles in that manner. (source). So if anything, it's vague. -- Tavix ( talk ) 21:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've added numerous references to the article to support the claim. I can find many, many more. Postoak (talk) 22:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks . I appreciate it. I've figured out that my problem was that I was searching for "Sun Belt" (two words) when the actual nickname is "Sunbelt" (one word). I get 12,000 hits searching for it that way which makes a lot more sense. I've removed the disputed tag (although a few of those sources were unreliable). Since there are sources that mention other cities as the "Capital of the Sunbelt", I still think it's vague as a redirect (although as an entry to Nicknames of Houston, it's definitely okay). -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * And thanks but what do we do? It's in the target I gave, as a section title for Captial of the Sunbelt, but erroneous. Do we delete that section? That is out of our remit: but patently as far as I and Postoak can see, Houston is not the capital of the sunbelt, and California seems more likely. What to do? Si Trew (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. I WP:BOLDly removed the unsourced attribution to the Sun Belt in the article that I suggested, and renamed the section to "Golden Buckle of the Sun Belt", with this edit. "Golden Buckle" is referenced, although hanging by a thread. I think these can both now go Delete, then. Si Trew (talk) 22:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I reverted your edit. Check out Postoak's references that were added, the nickname is definitely used. The confusion came from me searching for "Capital of the Sun Belt" and getting 8 ghits when the nickname is actually "Capital of the Sunbelt" (12,000 ghits). -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Well my number plates said "The Lone Star State", TSV G63 on my Ford Ranger pickup truck (what else? One must "go native". So when I was in Texas, I drove that. In a proper country like England I drove a nice old Jaguar S type, on the correct side of the road, thank you.) In Hungary I drive an old Trabant. If you want to annoy a Texan, mention 1959 when Alaska made it not the biggest state in the Union any more. If you want to annoy a Hungarian, say Trianon. They're still a bit miffed about that. Si Trew (talk) 22:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind me collapsing this, it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. -- Tavix ( talk ) 23:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No I don't mind. I noticed that you took an irrelevant ramble above and uncollapsed it into the article (or am I mistaken?) It is part of how I work, these seemingly irrelevant rambles sometimes have a point and someone says "Oh, ah, I know what you mean" and can act on them better than I could. In articles I am terse, cut it to the bone, in talk I ramble, so that others might pick up on something I missed. As Voltaire said to his cousin, "I have only made it longer as I have not time to make it shorter". Which Charles de Gaulle, who we have here at RfD, repeated as "reculer pour mieux avancer". But it just French idiűom. But I only read in French so perhaps that is a bad translation. Reculer pour mieux santer, old bean: step back so we can hit em harder. Si Trew (talk) 00:12, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


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Floweredy
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 7%23Floweredy

Untitled AR Murugadoss project



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Untitled AR Murugadoss project → Kaththi (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Untitled_AR_Murugadoss_project&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Outdated redirect, this project is no longer untitled. -- Tavix ( talk ) 15:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete it's not untitled any more -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 05:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:RFD makes no sense. No links except for this discussion and the move in 2014; hits average about $1 1/3$ a day: but three or four some days, which is above noise level. Si Trew (talk) 08:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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William Bill Wilson, Jr.: A Life of Servitude



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted by User:Shirt58. (non-admin closure) by Si Trew (talk) 13:34, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * William Bill Wilson, Jr.: A Life of Servitude → William Bill Wilson, Jr. (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Bill_Wilson,_Jr.:_A_Life_of_Servitude&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

this is not a name that people will search for to find this person, and the word "servitude" is incorrect (should be "service") and is actually a disparaging term, though the article creator obviously didnt intend that. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed I left the redirect after renaming the article but it is clearly not required. Theroadislong (talk) 15:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete per WP:G7, then (and WP:RFD). Was only created two days ago. Si Trew (talk) 17:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Have nom'd for CSD, I was hoping User:Theroadislong would do that. is his name really William Bill Wilson? I mean, he has a first and middle name the same: Bill Bill Jr.? References don't indicate that. Is he not William ("Bill") Wilson Jr.? Bill Wilson → the name DAB at William Wilson, but he's not mentioned there. Si Trew (talk) 08:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've marked the target as . Si Trew (talk) 08:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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Interesting Facts of the Bible
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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Interesting Facts of The Bible → Bible (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interesting_Facts_of_The_Bible&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
 * Interesting Facts of the Bible → Bible (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Interesting_Facts_of_the_Bible&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Facts from the Bible aren't necessarily interesting. In fact, the article on the Bible doesn't even mention the word "facts". -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Moreover, leaving our own Bible article aside, a concordance here shows that "fact" is only used once in the entire King James Bible, and even then that's in the Apocrypha. "Interesting" doesn't appear at all. But that would be an interesting (or not) fact about the Bible. Si Trew (talk) 17:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTFAQ this is a FAQ-list name-like title, and Wikipedia is not a FAQ repository, so should not contain titles simulating titles of FAQ lists -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 05:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTFAQ, with 70.51. Si Trew (talk) 06:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * But it's nice to know that there is only one fact in the King James Bible, and even that's apocryphal, and not interesting. Si Trew (talk) 07:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - unlike all of you, I find the fact that there is only one fact in the King James Bible, and that it is apparently the fact that the Jews and Greeks in Cilicia were upset about Onias being slain without cause, quite interesting indeed. Or maybe it's just interesting that someone in antiquity bothered to write it down at all. But neither these meta-fact about facts (or lack thereof), nor the fact itself, are much of any encyclopedic value. Ivanvector (talk) 19:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * No, even E. L. Wisty wasn't interested in it. But I'm glad you did the work to make our position clear, being the singular factotum. Si Trew (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Eh, Ivan, you are saying that the Bible isn't the Gospel? or just the Jewish back end of it? Si Trew (talk) 10:00, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I should be clear: I respect everyone's religion though I have none of my own. I respect my friends and family, so I am kinda Christian in that sense, but it is the prerogative of Mel Brooks and so on to make Jew Jokes. Unfortunately, and this is wrong, for a gentile to make those jokes is really hard, this is the consequence of Auschwitz nd so on, that it is totally unacceptable for a gentile to tell a silly joke about a Jew, when Jews are sarcastic about themselves all the time (perhaps I should have been born Jewish, I can do the sarcasm, my life.).


 * I hope the happy day arrives when that symbolissm no longer exists. More Hungarian Jews were carted off to be executed than all put together from northern Europe: ten million hungarians went upside, especially Cigany. But that is not WP:RS. Hitler made Hungarians drive on the right, when he barged in in 1939 after having a bit of a go at Czechoslovakia, they drove on the left, but not many Hungarians remember it. (I tried a few years ago to improve Right-_and_left-hand_traffic with little success). Si Trew (talk) 10:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment The original page contained trivia about the Bible (longest verse etc) see . Delete. Irrelevant redirects and original content non-encyclopedic. --Dweller (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * yes, but we are not a Bible concordance, essentially, WP:NOTDIC Si Trew (talk) 13:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hence my "delete" opinion. --Dweller (talk) 09:59, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted both by User:Drmies. (non-admin closure) by Si Trew (talk) 20:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Blank redirect999 → Wild for the Night (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blank_redirect999&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]
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I'm pretty sure this is nonsense. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pinging who created these redirects apparently as placeholders while moving pages; there may be others. My guess is these all fall under WP:G6. Ivanvector (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete housekeeping cleanup -- 70.51.203.69 (talk) 05:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Nominated both for WP:G6 housekeeping at WP:CSD; WP:G7 plays since author agrees they are part of a three point turn and hir the kerb (or curb). Recently created, WP:RFD novel or obscure synonym. Si Trew (talk) 19:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment xf back to here both Rs are for G6, G7, and WPD novel or obscure. Si Trew (talk) 19:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy delete. I've never seen a G8 on an interwiki link before, but it seems perfectly cromulent here. --BDD (talk) 16:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * -word → wiktionary:-word (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=-word&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

The linked Wiktionary entry was deleted. Jc86035 (talk • contribs) Use &#123;&#123;re&#124;Jc86035&#125;&#125; to reply to me 14:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per WP:G8 because this is a redirect to an invalid target., I'll tag it for you. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * The result of the discussion was speedy deleted by . Procedural close. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector (talk) 21:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * <span id="Robert Gardener (disambiguation)">Robert Gardener (disambiguation) → Robert Gardner (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Gardener_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure:  ]

Accidental creation by me - spelled wrong Pam  D  10:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, taking to WP:CSD as WP:G7 author requests deletion. Si Trew (talk) 11:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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