Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 10

March 10
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 10, 2015.

Celtic sea salt



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 * The result of the discussion was Delete per WP:SNOWBALL (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 09:23, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Celtic sea salt → Sel gris (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Celtic_sea_salt&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Requesting deletion due to inaccuracy. Celtic sea salt is not just Sel gris, but other types of salts as well. Also Celtic Sea Salt is a trademark and not a generic term for Sel gris as this implies. Mattnat1 (talk) 21:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well I would guess Celtic sea salt is any salt from the Irish Sea. The sea has been known to be a bit saline. What would you guess? Si Trew (talk) 04:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps it is a specific brand of salt... in which case WP:NOADVERTISING... Si Trew (talk) 04:31, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * And lo and behold we have celticseasalt dot com... Si Trew (talk) 04:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:RFD #2 (confusing, misleading or inaccurate), #4 (self-promotion) and possibly #5 (makes no sense). Per nom and per their website, "Celtic Sea Salt" is a brand marketing many kinds of sea and other salts. Ivanvector (talk) 14:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:PROMO. as well as all the others Victor said. Si Trew (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That"s a bit naughty of me to pun his name. I think it is understood I do it on purpose. Si Trew (talk) 14:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTADVERTISING -- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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Jianada



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Jianada → Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jianada&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete per WP:FORRED. There's no inherent connection between Canada and any Chinese languages. BDD (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTENG. This is pushing it a bit far... 04:34, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTDICT Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary, nor a transliteration crossindex -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and others. While Chinese migrants did make significant contributions to Canadian history, Canada is not especially Chinese. Ivanvector (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTENG, WP:NOTDIC, WP:FORRED and WP:SNOWBALL. Si Trew (talk) 09:30, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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Kaenada



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget as described. JohnCD (talk) 15:52, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Kaenada → Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kaenada&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Togil → Germany (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Togil&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

As a Korean name for Canada, this would fall under WP:FORRED. It's currently tagged as a misspelling, which seems very implausible to me. Looking at Google results, it appears to be a Korean personal name, though maybe it's just being used as a pseudonym. "Togil" has the same issues except for the misspelling. --BDD (talk) 18:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * We're not here to speak Korean. Would throwing Kannada into the mix be helpful or harmful? Si Trew (talk) 04:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually I think more likely as a misspelling of Kannada for the first one. Not checked the second yet, Si Trew (talk) 04:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

***Yeeőp. I am happy with that. Si Trew (talk) 08:01, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget the second (Togil) to Names of Germany, where it is listed. Si Trew (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Retarget Kaenada to Korean Canadians (Hanguk-gye Kaenada-in) (Delete is also fine). Retarget Togil to Names of Germany per Si Trew -- Lenticel ( talk ) 06:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget Togil → Names of Germany per Si Trew. Ivanvector (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget Kaenada → Name of Canada: this is a simplification of IPA for the pronunciation of "Canada" in English, and close to the IPA for a number of other languages. The romanization into French of the Laurentian language word that this comes from is variously "kannada", "kanata", "kanada", etc., depending on school of thought and which particular language it is said to come from. Ivanvector (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm happy with that, Si Trew (talk) 21:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with a Retarget to Name of Canada as well.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 23:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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Celebrity deaths
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 April 2%23Celebrity deaths

Light-hearted



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 * The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Light-hearted → Happiness (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Light-hearted&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Light-Hearted → Happiness (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Light-Hearted&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]
 * Lightheartedness → Happiness (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lightheartedness&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

How do we know that we aren't talking about Humor? We don't. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:20, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep lighthearted doesn't even mention humor. It could mean humor, but how is a "not found" search screen more helpful? Art LaPella (talk) 00:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, a "Not found" search screen is more useful, because then one can try to search another way. What is harmful is if a redirect takes you directly to the wrong topic (which the things on the left and top do) so that one doesn't even get to the search screen. For this reason I have asked at WT:RFD to get a search button on the page, but that's just my opinion. To me, it's like GOTO Considered Harmful, but I am just one of many and others disagree. Si Trew (talk) 11:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Dunno. We don't have Light comedy or Light humour but this is a common British expression. Light entertainment is too far a stretch, and the Light Programme doesn't broadcast any more. From the spelling of "humor", as in Light humor, kinda James Thurber kind of humour, I guess this may be unknown in the US, but doing a search, there are plenty of articles that say "light hearted" but no really good link. Light hearted is red. Perhaps not WP:WORLDWIDE? Si Trew (talk) 10:36, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Happy go lucky is the closest I think in meaning, but that's a DAB to films etc. What to do? Si Trew (talk) 10:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep - Wiktionary defines "lightheartedness" as "the property of being lighthearted, joyous, cheerful, without a care". Cheerfulness redirects to Happiness, and the Joy disambiguation page lists Happiness as the first entry, so having these lightheartedness pages redirect to Happiness as well seems most appropriate and consistent to me. Neelix (talk) 20:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:35, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - my dictionary search points me to "heavy hearted" which is a poetic term or sadness, melancholy, etc. Makes sense that its opposite "light hearted" should refer to happiness then. Creeping up on WP:DICDEF but I think the target we have is the most appropriate for this. Heavy heart, heavy hearted, heavy-hearted are red, but Heavy Heart is a music dab page. Ivanvector (talk) 17:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For consistency, I have created the "heavy hearted" redirects. Neelix (talk) 22:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Surely that would be R from opposite? Si Trew (talk) 06:18, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have apparently lost the ability to type. :) 07:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs)
 * But What Becomes of the Brokenhearted then? I'm led to believe, she found love, but then she farted... Si Trew (talk) 09:34, 13 March 2015 (UTC) (More seriously, we have neither Broken hearted nor Broken-hearted, apparently). 09:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have created them as redirects to Broken heart. Neelix (talk) 19:58, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It would help if you didn't. Rs are cheap, but time is expensive. Si Trew (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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Sun Television News Channel
Relisted, see Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 17%23Sun Television News Channel

ABA Divisions and Conferences



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Red Conference → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_Conference&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * White Conference → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_Conference&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Blue Conference → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue_Conference&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Connie Hawkins Division → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Connie_Hawkins_Division&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Roger Brown Division → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Brown_Division&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * ABA-Canada → American Basketball Association (2000–present) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ABA-Canada&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

This is the fourth in my series of ABA related redirects, after Atlanta Experience, Carolina Cheetahs, and the other team redirects. This time, we're dealing with former/proposed divisions and conferences of the ABA. They should be deleted per WP:RFD #10: "If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject," and per WP:RFD #2 "the redirect might cause confusion," due to the fact that that the article doesn't contain information about these divisions/conferences. WP:REDLINK might also come into play here. Tavix | Talk  01:07, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all - these redirects offer the reader no benefit. I'm not convinced about WP:REDLINK, I think they should just not exist. Ivanvector (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:WORLDWIDE: I refer you once again to Countries that are Not The United States. If in doubt, check atlas. Si Trew (talk) 08:08, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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