Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 March 12

March 12
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 12, 2015.

Trikamji Bapu



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:26, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Trikamji Bapu → Bardai Brahmins (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trikamji_Bapu&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

I don't really know much about this subject, but I'd like to take this redirect here for a second look. According to the caption of an image on the Bardai Brahmins page, Trikamji Bapu was the founder of the Bardai Brahmin Samaj. However, that's the only information about him since he's not mentioned in the main prose of the article. He seems like he could be notable enough for an article, so I'm suggesting to delete this redirect per WP:REDLINK until someone who knows more than I do can create an article. Tavix | Talk  17:25, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK-- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:REDLINK, and above, this is showing up a lot and also WP:RFD, confusing. Si Trew (talk) 21:49, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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Ponerosa pine in the Salt Cabin Park Exclosure area



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 * The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Ponerosa pine in the Salt Cabin Park Exclosure area → Rocky Mountain ponderosa pine forest (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ponerosa_pine_in_the_Salt_Cabin_Park_Exclosure_area&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Typo in name, unlikely to be searched for —hike395 (talk) 12:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * n.b. This formerly redirected to Ponderosa pine in the Salt Cabin Park Exclosure area, which was a double redirect. I've fixed it. --BDD (talk) 13:30, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Must be extremely unlikely search term. The Trail of the Lonesome Pine (take the high F, stanley) would seem more likely, somewhere near the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. (When I hear the word revolver I reach for my culture). Si Trew (talk) 08:57, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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University of Ontario Institute of Technology redirects



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 * The result of the discussion was delete both. Anyone who wants to compile a list at the second title is welcome to try, but the inclusion criteria are not obvious. JohnCD (talk) 14:44, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Technology-enriched learning environment → University of Ontario Institute of Technology (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Technology-enriched_learning_environment&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]


 * Laptop-based university → University of Ontario Institute of Technology (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laptop-based_university&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Delete generic terms; WP:ADVERT to the university at the target. There are many tech-enriched learning environments, indeed there are many studies about computer assisted learning having nothing to do with this university, and studies of how providing technology helps underpriviledged children. And Lynn University required the purchase of iPads ; while others require e-textbooks  ; and online universities require computers to access courses 65.94.43.89 (talk) 07:29, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Technology-enriched learning environment is a specific name for UOIT's laptop learning program. Similar programs elsewhere are not called by that name (i.e. it is unique to UOIT), so naturally, anyone looking for that specific name would almost certainly be looking for UOIT. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Laptop-based university is a generic name, I agree with you, but instead of deleting the page, we should just start a list of universities and other institutions with a laptop-based learning program, such as UOIT and those you mentioned (e.g. Lynn and those that require e-textbooks/online universities). &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * delete both The first is a promotional trademark for a single non-notable program, and not appropriate for a redirect. The second is non specific promotional phrases. Inappropriate for a redirect to one university, inappropriate as a list of multiple universities that offer such very common programs under various names (all distance or online  learning programs are, in a sense, laptop based, because that's what most students use. )  DGG ( talk ) 18:00, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: I would suggest changing the redirect for the former, promotional trademark, as you mentioned, so that it leads to a page listing laptop and/or online learning-based institutions at laptop-based university. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 15:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I must be the only person in the world who has actually been to the University of Ontario, but it is not a very prestigious university. It is in ]Hamilton, Ontario, at least one of its branches... Si Trew (talk) 12:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This is the "University of Ontario Institute of Technology," located in Oshawa, Ontario... Tavix | Talk  14:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * NOTE does not talk about the on in Hamilton. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:27, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Goood call. What to do with it then? We seem to have a lot about universities in Pakistan as well... is it WP:PROMO? Si Trew (talk) 21:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * As Gadget Geek said above, don't delete, but just change the redirect into a list of articles about universities with similar mobile learning programs. That would best describe the topic of the article. 192.197.54.51 (talk) 12:31, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This is an INCREDIBLY suspicious comment as this IP belongs to UOIT/Durham College. Mrfrobinson (talk) 00:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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Dual voltage



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 * The result of the discussion was Speedy retarget (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 21:45, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Dual voltage → Multi-system (rail) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dual_voltage&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Retarget to Dual-voltage (disambiguation). Many things are "dual voltage" ; this term is not specific to trains. Dual-voltage CPU, 110/220 circuits, dual voltage car electrical systems, etc. 65.94.43.89 (talk) 07:12, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I have corrected the redirect. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 13:20, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Retarget per Geek, perhaps as ? Si Trew (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget per 65.94; tag as if anything. Ivanvector (talk) 14:08, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I have applied the latter tag. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 15:44, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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J Clark



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 * The result of the discussion was retarget to J. Clark, which remains a musician biography following the conclusion of the related RM. --BDD (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


 * J Clark → Ghetto (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J_Clark&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Possible attack page. Makes no sense either. Mr. Guye (talk) 01:08, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to J. Clark instead. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Clark and add entries for the two musicians (note the existence of Jay Clark (disambiguation) ) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:01, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * 'Retarget, but not sure where. Clark (or Clarke or de Klerk etc) is hardly an uncommon surname. John Clark is also a DAB, as is John Clarke. Jake Lark fortunately is red. Si Trew (talk) 13:27, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have retargeted to Ghetts (a.k.a. Justin Clark) per a mistaken bot move in the article's history, as a WP:BLP matter. We need to create a disambiguation page here since there are multiple targets. I'll start. Ivanvector (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support dab It looks good Ivanvector. -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:55, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * DAB it. I ain't signed in, but this is Simon Trew, I correct later. 62.165.222.186 (talk) 08:52, 13 March 2015 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 08:52, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Just as a follow up note on the redirect, I think per MOS the proper dab title should be J. Clark, and J Clark should target there. There is currently a proposal to move the existing article at J. Clark to the artist's full name (see here), and assuming that goes through, the dab I drafted here should be moved to J. Clark. Ivanvector (talk) 14:22, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I aint got any problem either way with where you do the stops. I would do without them, oddly, because that is how I write in real life, without stops. except the one after my signature )2hich I just sign "S.", saved me a lot of ink over the years). But certainly obviously they should go to the same target. Si Trew (talk) 11:27, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Retarget to J. Clark or wherever that page ends up, overriding my previous comments and the dab I drafted. I don't know how I missed that Ghetts goes by J. Clarke, so there is actually no ambiguity here. Possible confusion can be solved with hatnotes. Ivanvector (talk) 18:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:REQPROTECT



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 * The result of the discussion was Keep per WP:SNOWBALL. No idee how to sign here Si Trew (talk) 20:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC) (non-admin closure)


 * REQPROTECT → Wikipedia:Requests for page protection (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:REQPROTECT&action=history history] · stats)     [ Closure: [ keep]/[ delete] ]

Unneeded shortcut, a) no one is using it (see here),b) does not qualify as a shortcut (too long). I am requesting community opinion on the redirect. Tito Dutta (talk) 00:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as it does no harm, and it is fairly specific. Furthermore, just because "no one is using it" doesn't mean we should get rid of it. Redirects exist also to aid searches. --Mr. Guye (talk) 01:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Harmless, and gets editors to where they want to go. (I mean, if you are looking to delete all long "shortcuts", best get rid of all redirects that include the word "PROTECT" since that makes them "too long" at that point.) Also, I created this redirect to target its current target due to no better retargeting options that I could find; anyone know of a better target? Steel1943  (talk) 02:30, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep that nothing links to the redirect does not mean it is not being used. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:18, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - does no harm, no better targets. I prefer to use WP:RFPP but others might not have the same memory for initalisms. Keep per WP:RFD #5 because finds it useful. Ivanvector (talk) 14:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Far from being unused, the stats show that it was visited over 150 times last month alone. Thryduulf (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
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